Camilla apparently leaning into “The Queen” title

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes think it was kinder that Diana did not live to see all this.

Not for her sons and grandchildren! Diana would have still been a force in the monarch as mother/grandmother to heirs of the throne. Imagine how things would have played out for Meghan & Kate to have Diana as their MIL. So sad she missed out on happier decades to come.

She would have brought more peace to family.

LOL that's hilarious. I like Diana a lot but let's be real, she was an epic sh$t stirrer. Maybe the kids would be different with her? But as for any resulting drama she'd be thriving in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And? She's Her Majesty the Queen. That's what she's called.

Queen Elizabeth said she shouldn’t be Queen. Charles made her queen. Charles’s dad wasn’t king. Same thing.

I believe queen Elizabeth gave the go ahead later.

She did. Camilla has been “the Queen” (not consort) for sometime now.

No she didn't. QEII said Camilla would be queen consort in 2022 before she died (like 7 months before she died). There was a public announcement. At QEII's funeral events, Camilla was queen consort, as QEII wished. It was not until the coronation that Charles decided to drop the "consort" and the invitations to the coronation had her as just the queen. That was a decision Charles made AFTER QEII's death (which he can make and wasn't that surprising).

QEII did not "give the go ahead" on Camilla being queen and made it pretty clear that she wanted/expected Camilla to be styled as queen consort when Charles ascended to the throne. But all she could do was make her wishes known -- Philip wasn't even around to impose familial pressure to follow QEII's wishes, and Charles did as he pleased.

It's good to be The King

She will always officially be Queen Consort no matter what is written.

And even though Kate is called Princess, she is not. You can only be born a princess. Her official title is Princess William of Wales but usually goes by the less formal, Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge.

Yeah, this is an interesting quirk of the royal rules.

To the everyday person, it seems like marrying a prince should automatically make you a princess in your own name. But in this case, your princess title is basically wife of Prince. So, Princess William vs Kate. Not unlike the formality of addressing a married couple as Mr and Mrs Husband’s name

While I know Duchess is technically less than Princess, I think being able to address her as Duchess Catherine/Kate sounds better because she isn’t the husband’s property in this title

[Anonymous]

I know William is sick of her

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This seems like a silly conversation for a bunch of Americans to be having.

I lived in the UK for several years while DH worked for a US government office there. We were told in no uncertain terms (by his agency) that it would be inappropriate for us to give our opinions of the royal family and weigh in about any other British government-related matters. Because we were guests, sure, but also because the BRF really has nothing to do with us.

So here on this thread, I can't help thinking it is a matter of opinions being like arseholes: everybody has one (and none of ours matters to the BRF).

Lady we are not diplomats here. We're gossiping. No one cares what your husband's boss told him you should or shouldn't say about the BRF. Good Lord.

You don't see how foolish and pointless this gossip is?

Why are you here then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And? She's Her Majesty the Queen. That's what she's called.

Queen Elizabeth said she shouldn’t be Queen. Charles made her queen. Charles’s dad wasn’t king. Same thing.

I believe queen Elizabeth gave the go ahead later.

She did. Camilla has been “the Queen” (not consort) for sometime now.

No she didn't. QEII said Camilla would be queen consort in 2022 before she died (like 7 months before she died). There was a public announcement. At QEII's funeral events, Camilla was queen consort, as QEII wished. It was not until the coronation that Charles decided to drop the "consort" and the invitations to the coronation had her as just the queen. That was a decision Charles made AFTER QEII's death (which he can make and wasn't that surprising).

QEII did not "give the go ahead" on Camilla being queen and made it pretty clear that she wanted/expected Camilla to be styled as queen consort when Charles ascended to the throne. But all she could do was make her wishes known -- Philip wasn't even around to impose familial pressure to follow QEII's wishes, and Charles did as he pleased.

It's good to be The King

She will always officially be Queen Consort no matter what is written.

And even though Kate is called Princess, she is not. You can only be born a princess. Her official title is Princess William of Wales but usually goes by the less formal, Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge.

She is absolutely a princess. Even when Diana was divorced from Charles, she kept the Princess title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems like a silly conversation for a bunch of Americans to be having.

I lived in the UK for several years while DH worked for a US government office there. We were told in no uncertain terms (by his agency) that it would be inappropriate for us to give our opinions of the royal family and weigh in about any other British government-related matters. Because we were guests, sure, but also because the BRF really has nothing to do with us.

So here on this thread, I can't help thinking it is a matter of opinions being like arseholes: everybody has one (and none of ours matters to the BRF).

Lady we are not diplomats here. We're gossiping. No one cares what your husband's boss told him you should or shouldn't say about the BRF. Good Lord.

You don't see how foolish and pointless this gossip is?

Do you even know what gossip is??? Imagine being this joyless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes think it was kinder that Diana did not live to see all this.

Not for her sons and grandchildren! Diana would have still been a force in the monarch as mother/grandmother to heirs of the throne. Imagine how things would have played out for Meghan & Kate to have Diana as their MIL. So sad she missed out on happier decades to come.

She would have brought more peace to family.

LOL that's hilarious. I like Diana a lot but let's be real, she was an epic sh$t stirrer. Maybe the kids would be different with her? But as for any resulting drama she'd be thriving in it.

I wish i was older when all of that was going down to really enjoy it. Wearing a dress designed by Charles’s other AP to make Camilla mad is top tier.

[Anonymous]

Camilla is very ugly. Charles must really safe with her since he is unattractive as well. It is likely Will + Harry would still get along if Diana was alive...and doubtful Harry would have married an American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know William is sick of her

Camilla? He gets along with her just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Camilla is very ugly. Charles must really safe with her since he is unattractive as well. It is likely Will + Harry would still get along if Diana was alive...and doubtful Harry would have married an American.

She is not "very ugly". She is average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sometimes think it was kinder that Diana did not live to see all this.

Not for her sons and grandchildren! Diana would have still been a force in the monarch as mother/grandmother to heirs of the throne. Imagine how things would have played out for Meghan & Kate to have Diana as their MIL. So sad she missed out on happier decades to come.

She would have brought more peace to family.

LOL that's hilarious. I like Diana a lot but let's be real, she was an epic sh$t stirrer. Maybe the kids would be different with her? But as for any resulting drama she'd be thriving in it.

She would have realized that her future relied on the success of her sons. It was in her best interest that very little changed. She would have done what she needed to do to uphold the institution throwing whoever got in her way under the bus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla is very ugly. Charles must really safe with her since he is unattractive as well. It is likely Will + Harry would still get along if Diana was alive...and doubtful Harry would have married an American.

She is not "very ugly". She is average.

She is well below " average". She was just as bad looking when she was young.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Camilla is very ugly. Charles must really safe with her since he is unattractive as well. It is likely Will + Harry would still get along if Diana was alive...and doubtful Harry would have married an American.

She is not "very ugly". She is average.

She is well below " average". She was just as bad looking when she was young.

She is not below average for 76. She was when she was younger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sometimes think it was kinder that Diana did not live to see all this.

Not for her sons and grandchildren! Diana would have still been a force in the monarch as mother/grandmother to heirs of the throne. Imagine how things would have played out for Meghan & Kate to have Diana as their MIL. So sad she missed out on happier decades to come.

She would have brought more peace to family.

LOL that's hilarious. I like Diana a lot but let's be real, she was an epic sh$t stirrer. Maybe the kids would be different with her? But as for any resulting drama she'd be thriving in it.

I wish i was older when all of that was going down to really enjoy it. Wearing a dress designed by Charles’s other AP to make Camilla mad is top tier.

Diana was a master at driving them both mad. Poking the bear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank God I don't have to pay for this crap with my tax dollars. Team USA!!

I would watch the Hollywood drama though....might even pay for it. Go Capitalism!

Amen!