Junior w 3.9/1550 - Big3 - College tour recommendations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very similar GPA and SAT score of 1540
And very competitive in one individual sport
Ed1 Columbia got deferred, no hook
ED2 u Chicago, he got in.

Recruited for the sport?

[Anonymous]

Not recruited just looked good on the application. He did not want to play competitive sport in college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not recruited just looked good on the application. He did not want to play competitive sport in college

Good to know. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

I would recommend to visit few big schools like UVA, few midsize like Chicago and Dartmouth, wake forest ..
And few small colleges like Bowdoin, Williams.
He should ED for his reach school .
He is very strong applicant but in case it does not work out on ED1 definitely consider ED2 otherwise it becomes a lottery with RD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Judging from friends’ experiences with their DCs, NMSF doesn’t mean much compared to rest of application

NMSF really doesn't mean anything. And given that schools don't seem to care much about the difference between 1530 and 1570 SAT, why should they care about the NSMF?

Why do you stop at 1570 SAT? Does it make more of a difference if it's over 1570? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

I personally believe after 1500 it does not matter. It is your whole application that matters and your connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I personally believe after 1500 it does not matter. It is your whole application that matters and your connections.

You are quite wrong

[Anonymous]

Not uncommon to hear a kid from these schools doing EDI at an ivy and when that doesn’t work go ED2 at UChicago. UChicago seems to really likes kids with this profile and it seems to be better than waiting on an RD that’s not likely to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not uncommon to hear a kid from these schools doing EDI at an ivy and when that doesn’t work go ED2 at UChicago. UChicago seems to really likes kids with this profile and it seems to be better than waiting on an RD that’s not likely to happen.

If DC likes Chicago, this strategy makes the most sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not uncommon to hear a kid from these schools doing EDI at an ivy and when that doesn’t work go ED2 at UChicago. UChicago seems to really likes kids with this profile and it seems to be better than waiting on an RD that’s not likely to happen.

If DC likes Chicago, this strategy makes the most sense.

A kid w Ivy Stats who likes Chicago should definitely ED or ED2 Chicago instead of putting themselves through the insane RD wringer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Judging from friends’ experiences with their DCs, NMSF doesn’t mean much compared to rest of application

NMSF really doesn't mean anything. And given that schools don't seem to care much about the difference between 1530 and 1570 SAT, why should they care about the NSMF?

Why do you stop at 1570 SAT? Does it make more of a difference if it's over 1570? Just curious.

A 1600 may get a bit of attention. But as such, yeah, 1550 is at about the 75th percentile for all (or nearly all) schools. Most folks say it doesn't matter beyond that. From 1500 to 1550 is a jump, that I believe matters. Others on DCUM feel differently.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?

Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.

But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.

It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.

Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.

Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?

Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.

But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.

It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.

Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.

Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.

Wow - it’s rough out there. Hooked at second tier Ivy w those stats and rejected? Yikes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?

Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.

But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.

It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.

Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.

Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.

Highest rigor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?

Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.

But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.

It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities.

Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.

Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown. Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.

Wow - it’s rough out there. Hooked at second tier Ivy w those stats and rejected? Yikes

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