LGBTQ+ Friendly Catholic High Schools?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.

There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.

OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.

+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.

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NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.

No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

This comment made me laugh out loud. Add in a “do better” and a “your privilege is showing” to have the maximum liberal outrage sarcasm effect.

Agree. Hilarious. Oh, and she forgot to tell us that we should be “doing the hard work.”

DP. Asking about treatment of LGBTQ individuals at Catholic schools is not disrespectful of Catholic schools. Catholic schools, if they fulfill their mission, should be teaching kind treatment of everyone. Even *if* you believe being gay is a sin, why would that sin rank higher on some hierarchy for you to the point where you think a gay person should be mistreated? Jesus sat with all kinds of sinners. He said love your neighbor and not only that, he said love your *enemy*. Basically, Jesus advocated being kind to everyone, whether you agree with them or not, whether you believe they are a sinner or not. It's really hard to do, but it's what He calls us to do.

If the last two PPs claim to be Catholic and are actually worried about upholding the teachings of Jesus, you are failing miserably. You are unkind and snarky. For what?

For sure. Jesus was kind. But He also urged CHANGE in behavior and did not mince words. Kindly, asking for a turn away from sin towards a greater plan on line with His great plan for us.

Except he didn’t urge people to change this sin. He was very clear about which sins he felt were most important to address.

Jesus was very clear on adultery being a sin. Homosexual activity falls under adultery because marriage can only be between one man and one woman.

Homosexual activities like going to club meetings, and bringing a date to prom are not adultery. Adultery is not happening at high schools.

The Catholic high schools have many teachers and parents who are married outside the church. Kids are taught to respect those people, and can be taught to respect people who are in same sex relationships as well.

Anything that promotes sin is sinful. Since there is no possibility of non sinful homosexual sex within Catholicism, anything promoting that, like dating same sex partners, is promoting sin.

If you view taking someone to prom as promoting sex with them then I would think you would be anti prom, because the straight couples are husband and wife.

What husband and wife are going to prom?

Encouraging dating is about encouraging relationships that ultimately lead to marriage, not premarital sex. The fact that the church does not recognize homosexual marriages is why encouraging homosexuals to date is wrong.

Maybe 1% of people going to prom are going to get married to each other but they are going to bang that night or that summer.

You are a wack job and you don't speak for all Catholics or even the Catholic church.

I'm sorry that you think prom is about banging, but everything I said is exactly what the church teaches. Not my problem if you don't agree with it.

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SJC seems very open-minded -- they emphasize the Catholic faith but also that there's a place for everyone there. Not a high school rec, but for youth Catholic groups, I know people who love Holy Trinity in Georgetown, and that's reportedly a very progressive Catholic group. There's a LGBTQ support group in the parish. I don't have first hand experience, just sharing what I've heard from friends of teens.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

DCUM does a terrible job when it comes to Catholicism. There’s a lot of Catholic hate here, and much of it isn’t grounded in reality.

I argued recently with a poster who was CERTAIN Catholics believe in creationism. No, that is not taught in Catholic schools. Catholics actually believe in science.

Down here a lot of fundamentalist beliefs bleed into catholic churches. Seton Ann Homeschool definitely believes in creationism and that is taught in a lot of smaller catholic schools. There are some groups in catholic schools and churches that do spout this stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

DCUM does a terrible job when it comes to Catholicism. There’s a lot of Catholic hate here, and much of it isn’t grounded in reality.

I argued recently with a poster who was CERTAIN Catholics believe in creationism. No, that is not taught in Catholic schools. Catholics actually believe in science.

Down here a lot of fundamentalist beliefs bleed into catholic churches. Seton Ann Homeschool definitely believes in creationism and that is taught in a lot of smaller catholic schools. There are some groups in catholic schools and churches that do spout this stuff.

Where are you getting this information? Name a Catholic school that is teaching creationism. I’m a lifelong Catholic and product of Catholic schools and have never met a single Catholic who believes in creationism.

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Ditto and I went to ES in the 70s and lived in 3 different states btwn K-12.

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OP, let’s just cut the chase. You really have no interest in a Catholic education for your DD. But you are like many other parents in the DMV area who are terrified about sending your kid to a bad DCPS/MCPS high school. And you also understand that you cannot either afford or gain entrance into one of the secular private schools. So that leaves those crazy Catholics who you publicly mock but privately respect. This has to be hard for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

DCUM does a terrible job when it comes to Catholicism. There’s a lot of Catholic hate here, and much of it isn’t grounded in reality.

I argued recently with a poster who was CERTAIN Catholics believe in creationism. No, that is not taught in Catholic schools. Catholics actually believe in science.

Down here a lot of fundamentalist beliefs bleed into catholic churches. Seton Ann Homeschool definitely believes in creationism and that is taught in a lot of smaller catholic schools. There are some groups in catholic schools and churches that do spout this stuff.

Where are you getting this information? Name a Catholic school that is teaching creationism. I’m a lifelong Catholic and product of Catholic schools and have never met a single Catholic who believes in creationism.

Same here. I can’t imagine there is a single Catholic school teaching creationism. The Big Bang was first theorized by a Catholic priest. Kinda hard to reconcile that with creationism.

When I read posts like the one above, I assume the poster is mixing up evangelical (or another branch) Christianity with Catholicism.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.

There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.

OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.

+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.

..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment

NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.

No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

This comment made me laugh out loud. Add in a “do better” and a “your privilege is showing” to have the maximum liberal outrage sarcasm effect.

Agree. Hilarious. Oh, and she forgot to tell us that we should be “doing the hard work.”

DP. Asking about treatment of LGBTQ individuals at Catholic schools is not disrespectful of Catholic schools. Catholic schools, if they fulfill their mission, should be teaching kind treatment of everyone. Even *if* you believe being gay is a sin, why would that sin rank higher on some hierarchy for you to the point where you think a gay person should be mistreated? Jesus sat with all kinds of sinners. He said love your neighbor and not only that, he said love your *enemy*. Basically, Jesus advocated being kind to everyone, whether you agree with them or not, whether you believe they are a sinner or not. It's really hard to do, but it's what He calls us to do.

If the last two PPs claim to be Catholic and are actually worried about upholding the teachings of Jesus, you are failing miserably. You are unkind and snarky. For what?

For sure. Jesus was kind. But He also urged CHANGE in behavior and did not mince words. Kindly, asking for a turn away from sin towards a greater plan on line with His great plan for us.

Except he didn’t urge people to change this sin. He was very clear about which sins he felt were most important to address.

Jesus was very clear on adultery being a sin. Homosexual activity falls under adultery because marriage can only be between one man and one woman.

Homosexual activities like going to club meetings, and bringing a date to prom are not adultery. Adultery is not happening at high schools.

The Catholic high schools have many teachers and parents who are married outside the church. Kids are taught to respect those people, and can be taught to respect people who are in same sex relationships as well.

Anything that promotes sin is sinful. Since there is no possibility of non sinful homosexual sex within Catholicism, anything promoting that, like dating same sex partners, is promoting sin.

If you view taking someone to prom as promoting sex with them then I would think you would be anti prom, because the straight couples are husband and wife.

What husband and wife are going to prom?

Encouraging dating is about encouraging relationships that ultimately lead to marriage, not premarital sex. The fact that the church does not recognize homosexual marriages is why encouraging homosexuals to date is wrong.

Maybe 1% of people going to prom are going to get married to each other but they are going to bang that night or that summer.

You are a wack job and you don't speak for all Catholics or even the Catholic church.

I'm sorry that you think prom is about banging, but everything I said is exactly what the church teaches. Not my problem if you don't agree with it.

I’m sorry that you are obsessed with othering one group and forget about the drinking, dragging, banging teens.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

DCUM does a terrible job when it comes to Catholicism. There’s a lot of Catholic hate here, and much of it isn’t grounded in reality.

I argued recently with a poster who was CERTAIN Catholics believe in creationism. No, that is not taught in Catholic schools. Catholics actually believe in science.

Down here a lot of fundamentalist beliefs bleed into catholic churches. Seton Ann Homeschool definitely believes in creationism and that is taught in a lot of smaller catholic schools. There are some groups in catholic schools and churches that do spout this stuff.

Where are you getting this information? Name a Catholic school that is teaching creationism. I’m a lifelong Catholic and product of Catholic schools and have never met a single Catholic who believes in creationism.

Same here. I can’t imagine there is a single Catholic school teaching creationism. The Big Bang was first theorized by a Catholic priest. Kinda hard to reconcile that with creationism.

When I read posts like the one above, I assume the poster is mixing up evangelical (or another branch) Christianity with Catholicism.

I can imagine people mistaking the fact that the story of Genesis is told to mean it is meant to be taken literally, but Catholics do not teach that. So if a kid comes home retelling the Bible story, one who didn't know better might make a false assumption.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

The question is about schools not churches.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.

There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.

LGBTQ people who identify as Catholic but do not necessarily agree with the teachings and tenets of the Catholic Church, you mean, as those individuals have chosen to opt out of believing the Church’s/Pope’s position that practicing homosexuality is sinful. (The overall tenet, btw, is that ALL people are sinful in nature—it’s just that atonement in the Catholic Church requires confession of that sin and repentance from it. And if there is a particular “sin” that you hold onto and celebrate rather than repenting, then that’s the point at which one differs from the Church’s position.)

And I’m sure there are many people who work at Catholic schools or who attend them who do not subscribe to the official doctrine or beliefs that are officially the Catholic Church’s beliefs. Especially in our very progressive area.
That isn’t the same as an “LGBTQ Catholic institution”—as they are actually bound by the church to uphold these tenets as a matter of policy. I do think there are many who look the other way on it.
But one could argue that this means they no longer hold a “Catholic position”.
(Unlike Protestant denominations that tend to decide these things by concensus, the Pope is who determines these things for the Catholic Church worldwide. He is a “divine figurehead” who has the supreme authority on what beliefs constitutes Catholic beliefs.

So PP is merely saying why don’t those who do not agree with the tenets of Catholicism just go find another religion or school who agrees with their position/beliefs on the matter rather than try to force a religious school to change its beliefs to fit yours?

No. There are divorced Catholics too so?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

The question is about schools not churches.

Correct. The suggestion was why not consider a non Catholic school, and just make sure to incorporate regular church visits at a Catholic Church (affirming)

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics send their children to Catholic schools for a number of reasons. High on most people’s list is the school reinforcing the teaching of the Church as the parents understand them. Many also want their kids to be part of the Catholic community with its traditions and values.

It seems that there are a sizeable number of non-Catholics who are concerned about the public schools but who are not interested in or able to pay the high tuitions of secular private schools.

To these people, the Catholic schools look like a potential solution. But they are offput by some of the teachings of the Church and the beliefs and values of some of the Catholic families. Talk about “eating your cake and wanting it too”.

Often when they send their kids to these schools, they are surprised by how insular the community is.

Many of the Catholics at these schools know why the non-Catholics are there. It isn’t for the Religion or the community or any of that. It’s because they see the school as a discount private school, a bargain, that is. That that attitude and motivation might be offensive to the Catholics never seems to dawn on the non-Catholics.

No it’s not high on the list.

Kids have no idea who is Catholic and who is not Catholic. The idea that these kids are “insular” is bizarre.

If your all butt hurt your Kensington neighbors don’t include you I can’t help there but kids are not refusing to include kids based on religion.

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Keep in mind the Catholic schools are full of families who want to keep their kids in a bubble - away from selective sins and people. Is that why you want for your child?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a gay person or child want to go to a catholic school or church? Pretty sure most Catholic Churches are not gay affirming.I feel like many families leave the Catholic Church over this issue.

There are some. It is important too seek one out of your child's sake. Go there if you want to raise you child in Catholic or other christian Faith. Just make sure it is affirming. https://www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Although I think that (going to church) would be fine, I'm pretty sure Catholic schools aren't a great fit for a gay child from what I'm reading here on DCUM. Even if the school itself isn't an issue, you're gonna be surrounded by people who send their kids to Catholics with the intention of being around like-minded people. The families, other kids, etc might not treat your child well. Check out schools like Sidwell, GDS, SAES, SSFS, Bullis, Potomac, Waldorf, etc - so many to choose from.

You should not speak for Catholics if you are not one and you have not experience with a Catholic school.
There are MAGA Catholics and there are Catholics that accept all people.

I'm the PP and am not speaking for anyone. I did point out that my comment about schools was based on, "from what I'm reading here on DCUM." I also do think an affirming church (including catholic) would be best choice.

The question is about schools not churches.

Correct. The suggestion was why not consider a non Catholic school, and just make sure to incorporate regular church visits at a Catholic Church (affirming)

There are a ton of reasons not to. They’re too expensive, it’s hard to get into, they don’t seem that welcoming, they’re way too wealthy, they don’t have good sports, I don’t really like their theater program, they don’t have a matching band…. There are a ton of reasons not to go to those schools.