ObamaCare ruined primary care medicine

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly every PCP in this area is now switching to concierge service. No one wants to take ObamaCare any more because if it’s horrendous reimbursement rates, paperwork, productive quotas, etc. etc. Now it has ruined access to virtually all PCPs for everyone with insurance, because doctors have decided they’ll take zero insurance. Primary care is increasingly becoming a luxury for the ultra elites who can shell out additional thousands of more dollars per year to keep a PCP on retainer while the rest of us get stuck with nothing or impossible routes to overcome to get access for simple primary care. Isn’t more government intervention in healthcare great? We can all have equal healthcare when it is crap for everyone and hardly anyone can access it. Thanks ObamaCare.

What a crock of shit. The "horrendous reimbursement rates" are among the highest IN THE WORLD. The real problem is that there is too much greed in healthcare.

Not for general practitioners. The reimbursement rates are heavily skewed towards specialists. A GP makes about as much as a 20 year UPS driver.

Doctors are not the issue. Yes, a few make real money. Vast majority do not. Moreover, even if some do, I have no issues with doctors being overpaid on the margins. I want some of our brightest students to enter medicine, and if compensation helps achieve that goal I am okay.

So by that logic, big law attorneys are all geniuses? Why do you assume money/comp will result in the brightest and not the greediest?

[Anonymous]

Obama’s only mistake was not putting in the Trojan horse public option to blow up the whole system. But that’s the dems. They had a supermajority and they negotiated away the public option with themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP I’m happy with my primary care. Not seeing what you’re seeing. Sorry. Maybe get a better job with different insurance. Of course it’s crazy insurance is tied to an employer but until enough people say enough let’s change the system it’s what we have.

Jobs don’t matter nitwit when all PCPs ditch insurance and you gotta pay additional money out of pocket know to access primary care because they all have gym membership like models.

Jesus you’re dumb.

Where do you live? I'm in DC and it hasn't been a problem finding a PCP. The global problem is that no one to be a PCP. It doesn't pay enough. It's not worth it. ACA didn't create that problem. Insurance companies did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:it was already going that way. the ACA simply provided a safety net particularly for people with pre-existing conditions who were rejected or exempted coverage in the prior version of health insurance

what we need is single payer/universal- our healthcare system has been horrible since the deregulation of the Reagan era

It doesn’t matter when people with pre-existing conditions have insurance, but now no doctors are out there who take insurance and want a $2000 per year membership club fee and cash payments for services. Right back to square 1 again, now access is impossible for all. Primary care in this region sucks so much a$$. Tons and tons of pcp are now concierge and charge ridiculous membership fees, or they’re impossible to access anyway even if you wanted to join because they take less patients.

ACA ruined primary care, so the solution is to double down with more govt medicine? Insane.

What you are complaining about was already happening. The ACA didn't create nor compound it.

Correct, it was a safety net created reaction to what was already happening. Insurance companies ruined healthcare long ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obama’s only mistake was not putting in the Trojan horse public option to blow up the whole system. But that’s the dems. They had a supermajority and they negotiated away the public option with themselves.

They needed 60 votes, which meant they needed to negotiate with some “blue dog” democrats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP I’m happy with my primary care. Not seeing what you’re seeing. Sorry. Maybe get a better job with different insurance. Of course it’s crazy insurance is tied to an employer but until enough people say enough let’s change the system it’s what we have.

Jobs don’t matter nitwit when all PCPs ditch insurance and you gotta pay additional money out of pocket know to access primary care because they all have gym membership like models.

Jesus you’re dumb.

Where do you live? I'm in DC and it hasn't been a problem finding a PCP. The global problem is that no one to be a PCP. It doesn't pay enough. It's not worth it. ACA didn't create that problem. Insurance companies did.

Wrong.

ACA created so many regulations and conditions that costs continued to go through the roof, making it hard for insurers to operate.

Whoever told you ACA would lover costs...lied.

[Anonymous]

NP I’m glad people actually interested the state of primary care. Those interested please listen to these podcasts from the New England journal (part 1 and 2)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2303852

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP I’m happy with my primary care. Not seeing what you’re seeing. Sorry. Maybe get a better job with different insurance. Of course it’s crazy insurance is tied to an employer but until enough people say enough let’s change the system it’s what we have.

Jobs don’t matter nitwit when all PCPs ditch insurance and you gotta pay additional money out of pocket know to access primary care because they all have gym membership like models.

Jesus you’re dumb.

Where do you live? I'm in DC and it hasn't been a problem finding a PCP. The global problem is that no one to be a PCP. It doesn't pay enough. It's not worth it. ACA didn't create that problem. Insurance companies did.

Wrong.

ACA created so many regulations and conditions that costs continued to go through the roof, making it hard for insurers to operate.

Whoever told you ACA would lover costs...lied.

You mean, ACA made insurers provide actual plans as opposed to the hundreds of complete sham insurance plans that used to be out there.

[Anonymous]

Oh for heavens’ sake. Just go to an urgent care outlet. There is one in almost every strip mall.

You are talking about primary care, which is the basic stuff.

And don’t worry about “establishing a relationship with your doctor” since they rotate in and out practices so quickly you rarely see the same one twice anyhow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh for heavens’ sake. Just go to an urgent care outlet. There is one in almost every strip mall.

You are talking about primary care, which is the basic stuff.

And don’t worry about “establishing a relationship with your doctor” since they rotate in and out practices so quickly you rarely see the same one twice anyhow.

Urgent care is more expensive and is wildly inappropriate for managing chronic health conditions. What a stupid post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh for heavens’ sake. Just go to an urgent care outlet. There is one in almost every strip mall.

You are talking about primary care, which is the basic stuff.

And don’t worry about “establishing a relationship with your doctor” since they rotate in and out practices so quickly you rarely see the same one twice anyhow.

Urgent care is more expensive and is wildly inappropriate for managing chronic health conditions. What a stupid post.

To be fair, the OP is the stupidest post on here. Wouldn’t you agree?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh for heavens’ sake. Just go to an urgent care outlet. There is one in almost every strip mall.

You are talking about primary care, which is the basic stuff.

And don’t worry about “establishing a relationship with your doctor” since they rotate in and out practices so quickly you rarely see the same one twice anyhow.

Urgent care is more expensive and is wildly inappropriate for managing chronic health conditions. What a stupid post.

To be fair, the OP is the stupidest post on here. Wouldn’t you agree?

Nah, that’d be your spouse for deciding to marry someone like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My mom has Medicare and one of those supplemental plans that cost her like $200/ month. Recently retired last year. She has providers in Southern California fighting for her business - they all want to service her.

It was never like that when she regular health insurance from her Fortune 500 employer.

Same, my parents can go anywhere now and my mom is legally blind and sees a ton of super specialized eye/low vision specialists and has never had a problem. Maybe we all need Medicare and supplemental insurance!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blame the insurance industry that REPUBLICANS won't regulate.

Obama just made sure more Americans had ANY coverage.

He did not dictate how much private companies reimburse.

Health care should NOT be a for-profit industry.

It is capitalism at work OP, not socialism.

Obama just regulated a whole bunch of insurance plans out of existence.
Also shut down a bunch of rural hospitals.

[Anonymous]

Blame for-profit healthcare. And if Republicans hadn’t gotten rid of the mandates, we would have a lot more healthy people buying insurance and helping to bring costs down.