Do Physicians judge patients based on what they wear? Designer Bags? Casual Clothing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Old thread but we’ve talked adults but do pediatricians judge what the children are wearing at appointments?

Ped here and I don’t judge clothing at all. What I do find frustrating is parents who can’t look up from their phone to answer my history questions about an illness or developmental questions at a check up because they’re too busy scrolling instagram or TikTok with the sound full blast.

One thing I notice is fingernails—long, dirty nails on kids sometimes clues me to ask how the family feels things are going, to ask if the parent feels overwhelmed, that sort of thing.

A teacher once told me that fingernails of kids at school usually showed the good families from the bad.

[Anonymous]

Actually, I've found doctors in the DC metro judge my home address when they look at my file and assume I can't afford quality care. One even had the gall to assure me I couldn't afford the doctors he would recommend.

No, we just don't have kids, don't need to pay extra for a better school district, and decided to save and invest money rather than putting in all into our house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually, I've found doctors in the DC metro judge my home address when they look at my file and assume I can't afford quality care. One even had the gall to assure me I couldn't afford the doctors he would recommend.

No, we just don't have kids, don't need to pay extra for a better school district, and decided to save and invest money rather than putting in all into our house.

That is not being judgy, that is discrimination

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God this thread is depressing.

It's so hard to get good medical care around here. So many bad doctors and few far between good, caring doctors.

I have been avoiding doctors more recently and the medical community can judge all they want but since covid they are no longer protecting patience in my opinion anymore along with the judging and the old dated information they provide you with. It's a shame a lot of us on here are staying away. Getting medical care should not give us more stress and anxiety, doctors are supposed to be of service for you, to help you. You literally pay for their service to you. Sad state of affairs for all of us these days.

Agreed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you can afford medical treatment out-of-pocket, you can afford insurance, but that’s off topic.

The other way around. I was without insurance for over a decade. Paid cash for regular check ups every two years. Paid cash even for ER which cost only $300 15 years ago. I knew what was wrong, saved them time.
Going off insurance again next year, as it doesn't make any sense to buy it. Doesn't cover anything, like zero, not even part ER.
The only reason to get it is to avoid the penalty. Penalty is cheaper.

[Anonymous]

Husband is MD- he could not care less what you are wearing. Those that come in who are nasty, ignorant, and entitled may not get his best bedside manner.

[Anonymous]

I have been avoiding doctors more recently and the medical community can judge all they want but since covid they are no longer protecting patience in my opinion anymore along with the judging and the old dated information they provide you with. It's a shame a lot of us on here are staying away. Getting medical care should not give us more stress and anxiety, doctors are supposed to be of service for you, to help you. You literally pay for their service to you. Sad state of affairs for all of us these days.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? Doctors and other healthcare workers were going in to work when everyone else was sitting home! DH lived in our basement for months without coming in contact with me and DC b/c he was on the frontline.

when I started in healthcare, we never had to talk about safety, except perhaps when walking to the parking lot at night. And that was only in the city. Not now. Patients and families can be horrid to work with. Just spend a few hours in the ER at any city hospital for a few hours. Let’s see how long you would be able to last.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think you receive different medical care based on what you are wearing?

Do you always dress a certain way for medical appointments?

When my father had cancer, he was definitely judged by the hospital. He was older (93) and black. They assumed he didn't have medical insurance so they were really horrible. I had to really show out! He had very good health insurance and I am a lawyer.

Maybe being a lawyer is why they treated him that way, did you tell the people working at the hospital you were a lawyer too?

So many broke lawyers… what does being a lawyer have to do with money/status?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I have been avoiding doctors more recently and the medical community can judge all they want but since covid they are no longer protecting patience in my opinion anymore along with the judging and the old dated information they provide you with. It's a shame a lot of us on here are staying away. Getting medical care should not give us more stress and anxiety, doctors are supposed to be of service for you, to help you. You literally pay for their service to you. Sad state of affairs for all of us these days.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? Doctors and other healthcare workers were going in to work when everyone else was sitting home! DH lived in our basement for months without coming in contact with me and DC b/c he was on the frontline.

when I started in healthcare, we never had to talk about safety, except perhaps when walking to the parking lot at night. And that was only in the city. Not now. Patients and families can be horrid to work with. Just spend a few hours in the ER at any city hospital for a few hours. Let’s see how long you would be able to last.

DP. Yep. I had colleagues I knew, people I was friends with, had backyard barbeques with, go onto ventilators at our hospital and die. I went to their funerals.

We all went silent at our hospital when the word came out that the ED docs wouldn't come to codes in the rest of the hospital, because it took too long to get in and out of PPE. We had to just do the best we could on our own. We were trained on how to do compressions through plastic sheeting before the vaccines came out, because we were reusing N95s and were trying to help without taking down more core frontline workers.

But here at DCUM, sometimes I get to read about how we are drama queens, or like to talk about our trauma, or expect people to bow down before us. That we think we are "special," or "playing God." I get it -- the last 5 years have been hard on all of us, and often these are just one or two people mouthing off with a chip on their shoulders and an axe to grind. It's fine.

But your healthcare workers aren't the same, and they are never going to be. None of the telling us to just get over it makes it that it didn't happened. I actually expected to die (high risk from COVID for congenital defect reasons) and packed my place up so it wouldn't be messy to clean out for my co-workers. That's always going to stay with me, and it changes how much I can put up with now. I'm not as resilient as I was before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They do write things like "well-groomed" (have seen it in my visit notes!) so I am sure it matters to some extent. I always dress normally but put together, same every time I leave the house really.

The parameters for “well-groomed” are extremely broad and they’re aimed at assessing the baseline for patients status, prior to presentation, on conducting ADLs (whether on their own or with assistance). Being well-groomed is not directly correlated with economic means because wealthy elderly people can be an absolute hot mess if they aren’t able to fully care for themselves and don’t have any family/hired help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God this thread is depressing.

It's so hard to get good medical care around here. So many bad doctors and few far between good, caring doctors.

I have been avoiding doctors more recently and the medical community can judge all they want but since covid they are no longer protecting patience in my opinion anymore along with the judging and the old dated information they provide you with. It's a shame a lot of us on here are staying away. Getting medical care should not give us more stress and anxiety, doctors are supposed to be of service for you, to help you. You literally pay for their service to you. Sad state of affairs for all of us these days.

Ok, keep eating the roots and berries and doing your research on YouTube and mommy blogs. 75% of staying healthy is just eating organic, limiting blue light, and avoiding seed oils right? Once your body has fully cleansed itself of the toxins from the vaccines you were tricked into taking by big pharma, you’ll even feel better. And if there’s one thing that matters more than tests or medical advice informed by peer review research it’s how you “feel”. Dumbass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They do write things like "well-groomed" (have seen it in my visit notes!) so I am sure it matters to some extent. I always dress normally but put together, same every time I leave the house really.

The parameters for “well-groomed” are extremely broad and they’re aimed at assessing the baseline for patients status, prior to presentation, on conducting ADLs (whether on their own or with assistance). Being well-groomed is not directly correlated with economic means because wealthy elderly people can be an absolute hot mess if they aren’t able to fully care for themselves and don’t have any family/hired help.

Exactly. Well-groomed has nothing essentially to do with the amount of money you spend.

Shirt tucked in (if it's that kind of shirt), face washed, shoes tied, hair combed. Are you able to attend to the basic parts of appearing normal enough and not so disheveled that someone would do a double-take on the street? Much more that than anything to do with the brand of clothes or handbag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My great wardrobe has never been enough to escape the assumptions made based on my past medical history which includes a mental illness, and, perhaps worse, my gender. The worst ever was when a dismissive emergency med doc at INOVA wanted to send me home with antacids for my abdominal pain. What I actually needed was surgery for my bursting appendix.

I'm sorry that happened.

Having a mental illness in your chart is worse than what handbag you carry.

A nurse asked me if my inability to breathe could be due to anxiety. I had an infection that the doctor treated with two IV antibiotics.

Being a woman and telling anyone you had anxiety is not good. They also make note of things you say in the chart, so I now say very uninteresting things and assume anything I say will be written down and saved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I have been avoiding doctors more recently and the medical community can judge all they want but since covid they are no longer protecting patience in my opinion anymore along with the judging and the old dated information they provide you with. It's a shame a lot of us on here are staying away. Getting medical care should not give us more stress and anxiety, doctors are supposed to be of service for you, to help you. You literally pay for their service to you. Sad state of affairs for all of us these days.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? Doctors and other healthcare workers were going in to work when everyone else was sitting home! DH lived in our basement for months without coming in contact with me and DC b/c he was on the frontline.

when I started in healthcare, we never had to talk about safety, except perhaps when walking to the parking lot at night. And that was only in the city. Not now. Patients and families can be horrid to work with. Just spend a few hours in the ER at any city hospital for a few hours. Let’s see how long you would be able to last.

DP. Yep. I had colleagues I knew, people I was friends with, had backyard barbeques with, go onto ventilators at our hospital and die. I went to their funerals.

We all went silent at our hospital when the word came out that the ED docs wouldn't come to codes in the rest of the hospital, because it took too long to get in and out of PPE. We had to just do the best we could on our own. We were trained on how to do compressions through plastic sheeting before the vaccines came out, because we were reusing N95s and were trying to help without taking down more core frontline workers.

But here at DCUM, sometimes I get to read about how we are drama queens, or like to talk about our trauma, or expect people to bow down before us. That we think we are "special," or "playing God." I get it -- the last 5 years have been hard on all of us, and often these are just one or two people mouthing off with a chip on their shoulders and an axe to grind. It's fine.

But your healthcare workers aren't the same, and they are never going to be. None of the telling us to just get over it makes it that it didn't happened. I actually expected to die (high risk from COVID for congenital defect reasons) and packed my place up so it wouldn't be messy to clean out for my co-workers. That's always going to stay with me, and it changes how much I can put up with now. I'm not as resilient as I was before.

Thank you for being there. I’m sorry it’s been so hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I have been avoiding doctors more recently and the medical community can judge all they want but since covid they are no longer protecting patience in my opinion anymore along with the judging and the old dated information they provide you with. It's a shame a lot of us on here are staying away. Getting medical care should not give us more stress and anxiety, doctors are supposed to be of service for you, to help you. You literally pay for their service to you. Sad state of affairs for all of us these days.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? Doctors and other healthcare workers were going in to work when everyone else was sitting home! DH lived in our basement for months without coming in contact with me and DC b/c he was on the frontline.

when I started in healthcare, we never had to talk about safety, except perhaps when walking to the parking lot at night. And that was only in the city. Not now. Patients and families can be horrid to work with. Just spend a few hours in the ER at any city hospital for a few hours. Let’s see how long you would be able to last.

DP. Yep. I had colleagues I knew, people I was friends with, had backyard barbeques with, go onto ventilators at our hospital and die. I went to their funerals.

We all went silent at our hospital when the word came out that the ED docs wouldn't come to codes in the rest of the hospital, because it took too long to get in and out of PPE. We had to just do the best we could on our own. We were trained on how to do compressions through plastic sheeting before the vaccines came out, because we were reusing N95s and were trying to help without taking down more core frontline workers.

But here at DCUM, sometimes I get to read about how we are drama queens, or like to talk about our trauma, or expect people to bow down before us. That we think we are "special," or "playing God." I get it -- the last 5 years have been hard on all of us, and often these are just one or two people mouthing off with a chip on their shoulders and an axe to grind. It's fine.

But your healthcare workers aren't the same, and they are never going to be. None of the telling us to just get over it makes it that it didn't happened. I actually expected to die (high risk from COVID for congenital defect reasons) and packed my place up so it wouldn't be messy to clean out for my co-workers. That's always going to stay with me, and it changes how much I can put up with now. I'm not as resilient as I was before.

Thank you for being there. I’m sorry it’s been so hard.

I'm glad we both made it through. Thanks.

May there be better days ahead!