Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.
We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?
No. We reviewed this quite thoroughly when we thought about sending DS to a private (for a sport). He is quite polished, kind and humble. He has integrity, looks you in the eye and has a strong handshake. He also thanks the janitor and other service workers he interacts with at his Ivy grad school. MCPS delivered for us.
Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.
The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!
+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?
Lol I didn’t know I was famous!
My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.
Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.
If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.
Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.
Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.
MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.
Earth to this poster: Covid is over.
I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?
Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.
We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.
Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.
That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.
LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.
You’re exaggerating.
Oh really?
So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.
As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.
This x1000
It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.
I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.
Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.
Every MCPS school (including non-W) has extremely smart motivated kids who want to excel, and they do. It is up to your kid. And, many of the wealthy, entitled kids at privates seem even less motivated knowing they can rely on their wealth and connections. Public school kids aren’t coddled, they work hard and make it happen. That environment of truly motivated kids has been great for DS.
Ah yes. Potomac, Bethesda, and Chevy Chase kids who go to MCPS schools aren’t coddled.
Give me a fking break.
So now public school kids are coddled? Ok, so yet another reason to not go private (where you go for the coddling).
Top private schools don’t coddle. You clearly have no experience with these schools.
The reality is kids are coddled in rich areas like much of MoCo, regardless of what school they attend. Stop acting like kids at Potomac MCPS schools are living a hard knock life.
dp.. I think the point is that public school kids aren't coddled by the teachers or admins like private school kids are. There is no hand holding through the college process, for example. MCPS schools do try to provide some guidance on the college process, but most of the guidance counselors don't have time to have a sitdown 1:1 with every kid to hand hold them through the process.
Once again — teachers at top private schools don’t coddle the kids.
You clearly have no experience with these schools, or only know about mediocre ones.
Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.
We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?
No. We reviewed this quite thoroughly when we thought about sending DS to a private (for a sport). He is quite polished, kind and humble. He has integrity, looks you in the eye and has a strong handshake. He also thanks the janitor and other service workers he interacts with at his Ivy grad school. MCPS delivered for us.
Ivy grad school. Lol ok. Whether that matters depends mightily on the program.
Also, the post you’re responding to is about math.
Anonymous wrote:This type of thread is always very triggering to parents who want to pretend they could afford private school but in reality it’s out of reach ($100k/year in post tax dollars for two kids is really tough even for UMC families!), so they spin us all a yarn about why actually public is the exact same or better and it’s not really about the money.
I don’t understand why you won’t just admit to yourself and us that you actually CAN’T afford it, and that’s the real reason. Not math at Wootton or whatever TF you’re trying to convince us of.
And I don’t understand why private school parents can’t admit that the education they’re kids are getting isn’t superior to public school? I had my kid in private (clearly can afford it), moved them to public, and they are doing very well.
I don’t care where people send their kids to school. But it raises my BP when people trash public and claim they care more about their kids education by sending the to private. You can tell yourself that to justify the cost, but it’s simply not true.
I don’t think a truly self-motivated child needs a high quality school at all, I’d they have well-educated parents and an internet connection. So this blather about educational quality seems pretty silly to me.
Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.
The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!
+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?
Lol I didn’t know I was famous!
My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.
Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.
If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.
Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.
Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.
MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.
Earth to this poster: Covid is over.
I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?
Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.
We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.
Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.
That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.
LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.
You’re exaggerating.
Oh really?
So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.
As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.
This x1000
It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.
I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.
Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.
My kid is self motivated. Doesn’t matter what other kids around them are doing.
It’s all relative dear. You are under an illusion because your kid competes with low performing students. So anything can easily look “motivated.” I would much prefer an environment where you are surrounded by excellence.
So if my kid was in private school, s/he would have gotten better than an A in AP lang and better than a 5 on the AP test? Is that what you’re saying, DEAR?
It’s not all about AP tests. The top private schools go beyond the AP curriculum.
Do you get tired of constantly moving the goalposts? Must be a full time job to justify the tuition money you’re blowing for all that “beyond AP curriculum.”
Actually my kid is in lower ES and is thriving in small classes and a curriculum that goes well beyond the state testing subjects (reading and math). We love that she has integrated art, music, ample recess and PE time every single day, and perhaps most importantly, two highly qualified teachers who team teach 16 kids. We love that her class put on 3 plays this past year and that the plays integrated concepts across subject areas.
We love that we get detailed feedback on where she is not only academically, but also socio-emotionally. By October of last year, her teachers knew the nuances that would change in her personality when she was getting frustrated and told us exactly how they tailored how they taught her to help convince her to not give up.
What you don’t understand is that a high quality private school, especially for ES, is so much about letting teachers teach by giving them ample resources and small class sizes.
If your kid needs that, then clearly private is for you! Mine doesn’t, they’re flourishing in MCPS.
Let’s just be honest that it’s not about the academics.
You don’t think every kid could benefit from a full curriculum and individualized attention?
dp.. my kids said they don't want to be in a tiny class. It's also harder socially. Also, harder to get diverse opinions in smaller classes.
Of course, smaller class sizes have its pros. At one point, I thought my younger DC might benefit from more attention and smaller class sizes. But, this DC up'd their game in school, and got straight As.
But, I was willing to shell out the $ for private school for that DC. The other DC in a magnet didn't need the individual attention, and actually, would not have been as challenged at a private as they are at the magnet public.
Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.
The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!
+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?
Lol I didn’t know I was famous!
My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.
Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.
If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.
Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.
Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.
MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.
Earth to this poster: Covid is over.
I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?
Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.
We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.
Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.
That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.
LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.
You’re exaggerating.
Oh really?
So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.
As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.
This x1000
It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.
I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.
Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.
Every MCPS school (including non-W) has extremely smart motivated kids who want to excel, and they do. It is up to your kid. And, many of the wealthy, entitled kids at privates seem even less motivated knowing they can rely on their wealth and connections. Public school kids aren’t coddled, they work hard and make it happen. That environment of truly motivated kids has been great for DS.
Ah yes. Potomac, Bethesda, and Chevy Chase kids who go to MCPS schools aren’t coddled.
Give me a fking break.
So now public school kids are coddled? Ok, so yet another reason to not go private (where you go for the coddling).
Top private schools don’t coddle. You clearly have no experience with these schools.
The reality is kids are coddled in rich areas like much of MoCo, regardless of what school they attend. Stop acting like kids at Potomac MCPS schools are living a hard knock life.
dp.. I think the point is that public school kids aren't coddled by the teachers or admins like private school kids are. There is no hand holding through the college process, for example. MCPS schools do try to provide some guidance on the college process, but most of the guidance counselors don't have time to have a sitdown 1:1 with every kid to hand hold them through the process.
Once again — teachers at top private schools don’t coddle the kids.
You clearly have no experience with these schools, or only know about mediocre ones.
ok, but you admit that the admins do coddle the private school kids?
Anonymous wrote:This type of thread is always very triggering to parents who want to pretend they could afford private school but in reality it’s out of reach ($100k/year in post tax dollars for two kids is really tough even for UMC families!), so they spin us all a yarn about why actually public is the exact same or better and it’s not really about the money.
I don’t understand why you won’t just admit to yourself and us that you actually CAN’T afford it, and that’s the real reason. Not math at Wootton or whatever TF you’re trying to convince us of.
And I don’t understand why private school parents can’t admit that the education they’re kids are getting isn’t superior to public school? I had my kid in private (clearly can afford it), moved them to public, and they are doing very well.
I don’t care where people send their kids to school. But it raises my BP when people trash public and claim they care more about their kids education by sending the to private. You can tell yourself that to justify the cost, but it’s simply not true.
I don’t think a truly self-motivated child needs a high quality school at all, I’d they have well-educated parents and an internet connection. So this blather about educational quality seems pretty silly to me.
Anonymous wrote:Finally, if your kid is in grad school, his MCPS experience is so dated that it’s irrelevant.
No, I don’t think so. If you prefer private, for whatever reason, please have at it. But others have found MCPS to offer everything they need and want. It’s really just personal preference.
And plenty of MCPS grads are at Ivy and equivalent grad schools. Don’t kid yourself.
Anonymous wrote:We could have afforded it easily (Biglaw) but I place Trump supporters and (non religious) private school parents living in average or better public school districts in the same category: people whose values I don’t share and who I will have nothing to do with.
The feeling is mutual!! How about that. I have absolutely no respect for families who have wealth and instead of spending it on a good education, they choose multiple homes, trips, etc. We have a net worth of $12M plus $1M annual income, and we have only one home and basic cars. We spent $120K on education last year between my college and HS students. Money well spent and they are great kids with wonderful friends. Wouldn't have it any other way and glad they are away from families like yours!!
+1. I don’t get what the point of this money is, if not for their kids. Famous poster Retired Biglaw Partner loves to brag about how little money he spent on his kids’ education which is just bizarre to me. What on earth was it all for, if not for your kids?
Lol I didn’t know I was famous!
My kids went to top ranked public schools, UVA, and top ranked LACs on merit aid. They all have masters degrees, good and productive jobs, and nice spouses. I covered the house in the nice suburb where there schools were located, paid for college, paid for beautiful weddings, provided down payments for houses, have a vacation home that they enjoy immensely, and between my spouse and me in my early retirement have provided them with so much free and loving childcare that they literally have never had to spend a dime on it themselves.
Yes, you’re right - I didn’t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years to keep them away from the great unwashed with a single-eyed drive to get them into an expensive named-brand college that impressed my friends and looked good on a bumper sticker. I knew enough all along to know that, in the end, it would amount to nothing.
If that’s your definition of not “doing it all for the kids,” then I’m guilty as charged. But I’m pretty confident I’d be acquitted if any of them were on your jury.
Your kids have masters? So you realize they attended MCPS in another era. It is not the same at all, and today they would likely not have been as successful. It is very different now...especially after covid. You lucked out and got a bargain. Sadly, many who bought here thinking they were getting one will find out the hard way. You will have to shell out the money if you want them to get a real education. Sorry.
Every generation thinks it had it worse than the one before it. There’s no evidence that this generation of kids from the better public schools in the DMV - including MCPS - are doing any worse than prior ones. Obviously Covid had a unique and singular impact, I get that, but Covid was felt everywhere.
MCPS was a disaster with COVID. It was NOT like that everywhere...especially the private schools, many of which never closed. Do you even read the reports out there about how few students are at grade level with math and reading? It's only a matter of time until you start to see how it impacts college admissions. The good universities aren't going to want kids who can't read, write or understand math concepts. Many kids will never make it to calc or even pre-calc based on how behind they are on math...it's only a matter of a few years and you will see this.
Earth to this poster: Covid is over.
I am the PP. I never claimed Covid is currently an issue from a disease standpoint. But it is an issue in terms of the aftermath...i.e. the learning loss and mental health issues that have emerged since then. Do you even read the news reports? Or are you one of those with your head in the sand?
Right. So together we deal with it. We make adjustments. We focus on solving the problems that resulted. We re-devote ourselves to student achievement. We expect that colleges will recognize how difficult the last few years have been for many students and don’t hold it against them.
We don’t just write off public education. Public schools aren’t closing down like they did then anytime soon.
Never said you should write it off. We are talking about people with means. People with means will generally purchase the better product. In this case, that is private schools.
That may have made sense when public schools were closed. But now they’re open.
LOL, but they lost an entire year of learning, so basically at least a year (and more in some cases) behind private school students in terms of academic proficiency. For the life of me, I don't understand how someone with means would want that for their kid.
You’re exaggerating.
Oh really?
So you think that having only about half of 6th graders meeting the mathematics benchmarks (as defined by MCPS) is acceptable? How about the fact that only about half of 3rd graders meet benchmarks for reading? I mean, I am pretty confident that in my child's private school, approximately 100% meet/exceed the same benchmarks. But you seem like you are ok with this data. Then by all means send your child there. https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-releases-mid-year-grade-data-on-math-and-reading-proficiency/
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Private schools select who they want to attend. They require testing and interviewing for admission. You cannot compare them one on one with each other.
As I said before, Covid was an issue, yes. It set many schools and students back, yes. But it will ultimately prove to be a blip on the radar screen. It is time for all of us to move on.
This x1000
It astonishes me that people don’t understand this.
I am the poster with the gen pop non W rising 12th grader. S/he has wealthy, successful and involved parents. S/he would do well anywhere we put her/him.
Yes actually this is a good thing! I want my kid surrounded by people who want to excel. Why would I let them be exposed to kids who only seek to game the system and do the least work possible to pass? Kids are impressionable. And MCPS has managed to create ab environment of mediocrity that will only turn out mediocre high school graduates.
Every MCPS school (including non-W) has extremely smart motivated kids who want to excel, and they do. It is up to your kid. And, many of the wealthy, entitled kids at privates seem even less motivated knowing they can rely on their wealth and connections. Public school kids aren’t coddled, they work hard and make it happen. That environment of truly motivated kids has been great for DS.
Ah yes. Potomac, Bethesda, and Chevy Chase kids who go to MCPS schools aren’t coddled.
Give me a fking break.
So now public school kids are coddled? Ok, so yet another reason to not go private (where you go for the coddling).
Top private schools don’t coddle. You clearly have no experience with these schools.
The reality is kids are coddled in rich areas like much of MoCo, regardless of what school they attend. Stop acting like kids at Potomac MCPS schools are living a hard knock life.
dp.. I think the point is that public school kids aren't coddled by the teachers or admins like private school kids are. There is no hand holding through the college process, for example. MCPS schools do try to provide some guidance on the college process, but most of the guidance counselors don't have time to have a sitdown 1:1 with every kid to hand hold them through the process.
Once again — teachers at top private schools don’t coddle the kids.
You clearly have no experience with these schools, or only know about mediocre ones.
ok, but you admit that the admins do coddle the private school kids?
Nope. Not at the top private schools. 1:1 college counseling isn’t coddling; it’s providing high quality guidance about a complex process. They don’t hold the kids’ hands. They give them guidance. There’s a big difference.
Unlike you, I went through public and private schools, and so has my kid.
Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.
We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?
dp.. where was this post?
You mean your private school offers mvc/diffeq? In our public HS, they have to have at least 2 mvc classes because there is such high demand.
Anonymous wrote:Finally, if your kid is in grad school, his MCPS experience is so dated that it’s irrelevant.
No, I don’t think so. If you prefer private, for whatever reason, please have at it. But others have found MCPS to offer everything they need and want. It’s really just personal preference.
And plenty of MCPS grads are at Ivy and equivalent grad schools. Don’t kid yourself.
Grad schools have so many cash cow programs that that means nothing, unless you can show me that they’re in the programs that are actually impressive, as opposed to the programs riding on the Ivy League school’s name alone. Show me the stats for med school and PhD programs. Law school, outside of Yale, only tells me a kid had a high undergrad GPA and is good at standardized tests.
I work in higher ed, as does my husband. I’ve run degree programs. I know what’s under the hood at these schools.
And everyone knows MCPS has gone down the tubes since Curriculum 2.0 and especially COVID. So timing is hugely relevant.
Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.
We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?
dp.. where was this post?
You mean your private school offers mvc/diffeq? In our public HS, they have to have at least 2 mvc classes because there is such high demand.
Anonymous wrote:If you have a student who is gifted in math and science, the publics offer accelerated classes that the private schools do not. They have large enough cohorts to offer classes beyond APs, like multivariable calc or science electives taught by NIH retirees.
We’ve been over this already. We showed you the course catalogs from top private schools and proved that this is wrong. Do we need to rehash this?
dp.. where was this post?
You mean your private school offers mvc/diffeq? In our public HS, they have to have at least 2 mvc classes because there is such high demand.
Yes, all the top private schools offer it.
could you provide the link that the PP stated that shows this? Thanks.
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