Does anyone feel like the current DSM needs urgent updating?

[Anonymous]

There are kids that start our with developmental disabilities during the toddler years. They stop speaking and walking. They have hypotonia and can't hold themselves up. Lots of sensory problems. Even when they sort of catch up with the average kid their age by their teens, they're not just "weird" kids. They have something deeper going on with them (can't write or do small motor skills even as teens, very clumsy, don't have normal friendships and social lives, get overwhelmed very easily, and so on) and they definitely need to be given supports to be able to navigate the world socially so that they can be employable. I don't see why these kids should not be considered to have ASD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are kids that start our with developmental disabilities during the toddler years. They stop speaking and walking. They have hypotonia and can't hold themselves up. Lots of sensory problems. Even when they sort of catch up with the average kid their age by their teens, they're not just "weird" kids. They have something deeper going on with them (can't write or do small motor skills even as teens, very clumsy, don't have normal friendships and social lives, get overwhelmed very easily, and so on) and they definitely need to be given supports to be able to navigate the world socially so that they can be employable. I don't see why these kids should not be considered to have ASD.

Because there are other things that can be wrong with people that are not asd. Asd should not just be a catch all for ‘everything that’s developmentally abnormal’
Maybe they do maybe they don’t. But your description could be many issues and should be categorize accurately

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, autistic people experience the world differently than NT people but similarly to eachother. Makes sense as a single disorder to me. Just because autism is more disabling to some people than to others doesn't mean it's a different "kind" of autism. It's not like we say that people with mild ADHD and severe ADHD (or anxiety, or whatever) should have totally different disgnoses-- one's daily life may be a lot more affected than the other, but their brains have a lot in common.

Right but what were saying is that they don’t bc the category has been too broadly defined

What makes you think they don't have a lot in common? Just because one gets overstimulated by lights or noise and has an instant massive meltdown while the other is able to manage it and get themselves out of there calmly doesn't change the fact that they're both overstimulated by stuff NT people aren't, just as one example.

Because the difference between a kid who gets overstimulated but is completely mainstreamed, no language delay, and a severely autistic person who cannot potty train and is nonverbal, is a difference in kind, not degree.

Besides, most high functioning kids grow out of it. My

[Anonymous]

I thought that ASD was something you don't grow out of.

[Anonymous]

"Because there are other things that can be wrong with people that are not asd. Asd should not just be a catch all for ‘everything that’s developmentally abnormal’
Maybe they do maybe they don’t. But your description could be many issues and should be categorize accurately"

The person I know who has these issues has been diagnosed at least 3 times and is now a high school kid. Three teams of PhD and MD level docs have categorized him as having ASD issues. Not sure why you'd question the diagnosis. My point is that these HFA kids didn't all just get diagnosed at the age of 12. This is just a continuation of challenges they've faced since they were babies. In these cases, it seems wrong to question whether they count as ASD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought that ASD was something you don't grow out of.

As the mom of a young adult who was diagnosed with ASD as a preschooler, I think the condition changes over time. There are periods when symptoms improve and periods when they worsen (due to puberty or stressful transitions like changing schools). I think there are some people who mostly outgrow it, but I don’t think it entirely disappears - kind of like ADHD. I don’t think ASD is necessarily a disability but a different way of viewing and engaging with the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought that ASD was something you don't grow out of.

1/10 male adults are not autistic

[Anonymous]

You know what's disappeared? Regular developmentally disabled people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what's disappeared? Regular developmentally disabled people

Yep. Diagnostic substitution is rampant.

The studies prove this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is significantly disabled. This is different than a child who can pass as normal. It is very annoying when someone tells me their child is autistic so they need the same services I do.

Many children are challenging, but there has to be a point where you can say this child is special needs and this child is difficult. Difficult kids shouldn't need to get an autism diagnosis to get any help.

I mean are you a medical professional that can decide that those other kids don't need the service that your kid needs? I mean you don't get to decide that, and you don't get to be annoyed at everyone. I really don't understand what your problem is. You keep saying how you were annoyed at other parents, really you should just stay in your own yard and mind your business. Really.

You sound like a peach. Do you really not get the difference?

It's like someone with glasses claiming they need to learn braille.

No, it isn’t.

Okay, you can keep your autism diagnosis, since it feeds you emotionally, and that poster can continue being annoyed at you complaining about your autistic child who goes to a normal school and needs some support, while that posters child needs a full time aide

I don’t have an autism diagnosis and neither does my kid (has another special need), but your anger and toxicity is noted and dismissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many diseases, disorders and issues range from mild to severe/profound. I had a basal cancer cell removed. My father died of squamous skin cancer. Both are skin cancers but vastly different outcomes. Breast cancer is similar. My DC has very severe/profound dyslexia but I don’t get bent out of shape when someone whose child has mild dyslexia complains. I empathize with what they are experiencing. It is not a ‘I’ve got it worse contest’.

great you’re a perfect being! got any other helpful advice?

You’re so angry and abrasive. Do better.

You’re so threatened by other’s emotions. Do better!

Aww, you parroted my words back at me and thought it was cute. Fail. Here’s a sticker, because you tried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that ASD was something you don't grow out of.

As the mom of a young adult who was diagnosed with ASD as a preschooler, I think the condition changes over time. There are periods when symptoms improve and periods when they worsen (due to puberty or stressful transitions like changing schools). I think there are some people who mostly outgrow it, but I don’t think it entirely disappears - kind of like ADHD. I don’t think ASD is necessarily a disability but a different way of viewing and engaging with the world.

Idk what argument we’re having. Are you talking. About the specifics of certain people?
We are saying asd should be more succinctly categorized. No one is arguing about complete strangers on the internet and their diagnoses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what's disappeared? Regular developmentally disabled people

Yep. Diagnostic substitution is rampant.

The studies prove this.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought that ASD was something you don't grow out of.

1/10 male adults are not autistic

No one is saying that but if you do the math on the ratio of increase in asd dx we will be at this very soon. It’s already 1/35 kids in new jersey and in some nj districts 1/14 (not even accounting for boys where it’s likely 1/10)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what's disappeared? Regular developmentally disabled people

Yep. Diagnostic substitution is rampant.

The studies prove this.

.


My child was diagnosed with global developmental delay, caused by autism