FCPS is in big trouble

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Free ride to lab school is a good start

Sure, FCPS is going to give thousands of kids 55k a year vouchers. Does the superintendent just hold a town hall where they announce that gen ed class size will now be set to the state limit, all specials cancelled, all after school activities cancelled, all improvements and maintenance cancelled, but impacted students with IEDs get a free ride to the SN school of their choice? I'm sure that would go over really well

I think Lab is more like 80k a year.

You might be thinking of Ivymount, which is around that price. I don't know if they take FCPS kids.

They did back in the day but I heard FCPS is no longer contracting with them. It was hearsay though. They are very different schools. But both ver

very expensive. The county only does that in very specific cases.

[Anonymous]

All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

Funny. (/s) It’s the “more” that isn’t compensated and is making SPED teachers leave the profession and creating a hiring crisis for the district. I don’t teach SPED and I never would. You have no idea how much “extra” these teachers do in terms of paperwork and meetings. It’s unmanageable. How do you think FCPS is are going to perform the mandated audit of all SPED kids? Who do you think is going to perform the review of those 200,000 or so files in the next few months? Who else would know how to best evaluate the kids and figure out plans for learning acceleration or compensation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who immediately emailed the email in the announcement and to our kids case manager about- how are these meetings going to be scheduled- just because I wanted to see the response.

Well, just got the response. The school has no guidance and doesn't expect any guidance until January. And the auto-email from the announcement said thet staff will be trained on the meetings and compensatory services in the next "2-3 months."

So short answer- FCPS has no plan for this.

Why did you immediately email the case manager, who is just a "lowly" teacher? Obviously, you were just trying to throw him/her under the bus, when you knew fair well that the case manager would not yet have an answer.

You realize that your action, which is bullying, probably made your child's case manager, someone who is NOT responsible for the actions of the district two years ago, feel absolutely awful about him or herself, correct?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who immediately emailed the email in the announcement and to our kids case manager about- how are these meetings going to be scheduled- just because I wanted to see the response.

Well, just got the response. The school has no guidance and doesn't expect any guidance until January. And the auto-email from the announcement said thet staff will be trained on the meetings and compensatory services in the next "2-3 months."

So short answer- FCPS has no plan for this.

Why did you immediately email the case manager, who is just a "lowly" teacher? Obviously, you were just trying to throw him/her under the bus, when you knew fair well that the case manager would not yet have an answer.

You realize that your action, which is bullying, probably made your child's case manager, someone who is NOT responsible for the actions of the district two years ago, feel absolutely awful about him or herself, correct?

Whut? I emailed the case manager because that is what we are told to do when we have questions about our kids IEP. Who should I have emailed? The superintendent? The US Department of Educatiob? This was not bullying at all. I am sympathetic to the case manager because she is very nice and has been great to work with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was one of the parents who immediately emailed the email in the announcement and to our kids case manager about- how are these meetings going to be scheduled- just because I wanted to see the response.

Well, just got the response. The school has no guidance and doesn't expect any guidance until January. And the auto-email from the announcement said thet staff will be trained on the meetings and compensatory services in the next "2-3 months."

So short answer- FCPS has no plan for this.

So you emailed the school minutes after the announcement which means probably an hour after FCPS learned about it, and you’re upset that FCPS doesn’t have a some comprehensive plan ready to share with you. Well, duh! I wouldn’t expect them to have a plan minutes after they learned about the ruling. But they are developing one according to the response you got. What exactly is your point? I guess you just need to be pissed off and indignant 24-7. Your case manager must love getting emails from you.

[Anonymous]

It’s time to put on big girl pants and move on. Pandemic impacted everyone 100% and not just the kids with special needs and disabilities. I hope we all (parents and schools) learned from it. I will forever appreciate the teachers and staff that did their jobs during an unimaginable situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

Funny. (/s) It’s the “more” that isn’t compensated and is making SPED teachers leave the profession and creating a hiring crisis for the district. I don’t teach SPED and I never would. You have no idea how much “extra” these teachers do in terms of paperwork and meetings. It’s unmanageable. How do you think FCPS is are going to perform the mandated audit of all SPED kids? Who do you think is going to perform the review of those 200,000 or so files in the next few months? Who else would know how to best evaluate the kids and figure out plans for learning acceleration or compensation?

Honest question - is there a way to provide administrative staff to SPED or classroom teachers to help with the paperwork?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s time to put on big girl pants and move on. Pandemic impacted everyone 100% and not just the kids with special needs and disabilities. I hope we all (parents and schools) learned from it. I will forever appreciate the teachers and staff that did their jobs during an unimaginable situation.

What do you mean by "move on"? Assessing where kids with IEPs are and whether they need supplemental services is part of moving on. We can't pretend that some students were left behind during virtual learning and are in need of extra support now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

Funny. (/s) It’s the “more” that isn’t compensated and is making SPED teachers leave the profession and creating a hiring crisis for the district. I don’t teach SPED and I never would. You have no idea how much “extra” these teachers do in terms of paperwork and meetings. It’s unmanageable. How do you think FCPS is are going to perform the mandated audit of all SPED kids? Who do you think is going to perform the review of those 200,000 or so files in the next few months? Who else would know how to best evaluate the kids and figure out plans for learning acceleration or compensation?

Parents aren’t your adversaries there. I think most parents would support putting SPED teachers on a higher pay scale. It’s the other teachers that would raise a fuss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s time to put on big girl pants and move on. Pandemic impacted everyone 100% and not just the kids with special needs and disabilities. I hope we all (parents and schools) learned from it. I will forever appreciate the teachers and staff that did their jobs during an unimaginable situation.

It’s such a head scratcher to see comments like this. Almost every family I know with a SN kid also has at least one NT kid. So the fact that these parents are still talking about the long-term and unresolved issues that impacted iep students says something. They’re not wholly distinct groups of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

Funny. (/s) It’s the “more” that isn’t compensated and is making SPED teachers leave the profession and creating a hiring crisis for the district. I don’t teach SPED and I never would. You have no idea how much “extra” these teachers do in terms of paperwork and meetings. It’s unmanageable. How do you think FCPS is are going to perform the mandated audit of all SPED kids? Who do you think is going to perform the review of those 200,000 or so files in the next few months? Who else would know how to best evaluate the kids and figure out plans for learning acceleration or compensation?

Honest question - is there a way to provide administrative staff to SPED or classroom teachers to help with the paperwork?

DP. I'm a Special Education teacher and my supervisor asked about this at the meeting with the county. The answer was a big, fat NO. It will fall squarely on the shoulders of the teachers at each individual school to handle. There were 10 Special Education teachers in the room during our last meeting when this was brought up. Every single one of us plus our supervisor has a plan to leave the profession much sooner than we'd originally planned. I wouldn't be surprised if 2-3 people put in their notice after Winter Break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

Funny. (/s) It’s the “more” that isn’t compensated and is making SPED teachers leave the profession and creating a hiring crisis for the district. I don’t teach SPED and I never would. You have no idea how much “extra” these teachers do in terms of paperwork and meetings. It’s unmanageable. How do you think FCPS is are going to perform the mandated audit of all SPED kids? Who do you think is going to perform the review of those 200,000 or so files in the next few months? Who else would know how to best evaluate the kids and figure out plans for learning acceleration or compensation?

Honest question - is there a way to provide administrative staff to SPED or classroom teachers to help with the paperwork?

DP. I'm a Special Education teacher and my supervisor asked about this at the meeting with the county. The answer was a big, fat NO. It will fall squarely on the shoulders of the teachers at each individual school to handle. There were 10 Special Education teachers in the room during our last meeting when this was brought up. Every single one of us plus our supervisor has a plan to leave the profession much sooner than we'd originally planned. I wouldn't be surprised if 2-3 people put in their notice after Winter Break.

I'm so sorry, PP. From your answer, it sounds like those of you in the trenches think that administrative support would help? It's flabergasting that higher ups won't even consider giving you any support you need to reduce your workload. I mean, we can't manufacture teachers who don't exist, but there has to be a pool of workers who could support your non-teaching workload. Crazy!

Thanks for what you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this means is teachers will be asked to do more without compensation. That’s how things always get done.

Without compensation? That’s horrible that teachers don’t get paid. I thought they collected salaries and benefits.

Funny. (/s) It’s the “more” that isn’t compensated and is making SPED teachers leave the profession and creating a hiring crisis for the district. I don’t teach SPED and I never would. You have no idea how much “extra” these teachers do in terms of paperwork and meetings. It’s unmanageable. How do you think FCPS is are going to perform the mandated audit of all SPED kids? Who do you think is going to perform the review of those 200,000 or so files in the next few months? Who else would know how to best evaluate the kids and figure out plans for learning acceleration or compensation?

DP. I've got 2 kids with IEPS in FCPS, the younger is still in HS. I have a lot of respect for teachers and recognize school systems have never had sufficient funding for the requirements of FAPE. It's unfortunate that teachers and students are crushed by this. Yet, it's not the fault of parents who demand their kids receive a FAPE. Your anger should be directed at administrators, school boards and elected officials. I'm surprised school systems haven't sued for being required to provide a FAPE without sufficient resources.