WTU rallies for new contract

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Anonymous wrote:This is my 10th year as a teacher in a DCPS Title I school. I have been rated highly effective each year, so I have been eligible for salary raises and bonuses. For those who are unfamiliar, if you get a lot of high scores on the evaluation, you can skip along the pay scale, so I am paid as if I have 25+ years of experience and a PhD. This program is an effort to retain the teachers DCPS has identified as really, really good. However, because I have maxed out on the pay scale and the contract has expired, I have not had any wage increase for several years. I am paid exactly the same amount as I was three years ago. I don’t know how many teachers are in my position but it is a poorly thought out policy that the “best” teachers get wage stagnation. I would be fine if the new contract was everything the same from the old contract (which it probably will be) and an automatic 3% or whatever COLA on the pay scale.


What's your salary? Just curious.


The teachers at the highest end of the pay scale make $116k plus 10-20k bonus per year depending on school and subject.


That bonus is only for highly effective teachers and it’s actually $2k-$20k.


Yes, I am the PP who discussed maxing out the pay scale. For teachers in Title I schools, our bonus is 10-20k. 2k is for teachers who are not in Title I schools. I was referring to the wage stagnation for the teachers DCPS says they want to keep the most (those who have been rated highly effective for many years in Title I schools). Unfortunately, I don’t think this group is a high priority in the union negotiations because I only ever hear about how terrible IMPACT is from the union, so I don’t believe those of us who are receiving these high evaluations are a priority. I’ve been denigrated by some of the hardcore union members for taking the pay raise and bonus.


I’ve been rated highly effective once and I took the raise and bonus. I know exactly what you’re talking about and I could not care less how others feel about it. However, the tool itself is overly subjective (most evaluation systems have some type of subjectivity) and it should be fixed because some of us could do cartwheels down the length of the hallway and not be rated HE while others barely do the minimum and receive HE. I know first hand that how it is used as a tool to reward favorites. Not in every situation, but in far too many.


Looking at the rubric, do you think a better idea is to make standardized testing worth more? It seems like administration could reward anyone they like based on classroom observations.


Standardized testing being worth more would benefit teachers who work in wealthier areas. Attendance is better, kids don’t have to get the bulk of their food from school, if needed parents can pay for tutors, and so on. It would hurt the teachers’ scores in a high poverty school.

Although I’ve received (and accepted) the bonus, I think it should be cut out entirely. It causes too much discord because of all the things that go along with it. No evaluation tool needs to be more than a one page checklist. Either you did it or you didn’t. Time spent outside of my work hours should not hurt or help me. As a teacher, I shouldn’t have to sponsor multiple clubs or coach a sport to earn an effective rating. This hurts educators who are young parents, caregivers, or someone who just needs to go home at the end of their work day like normal people.


You don’t think DCPS could add a clause of 79% attendance to count instead of what is it now? 55% or something.
You can still get a year of growth in 79% of the school year.

I’m sure they’ll be something else for other teachers to be upset at each other about.
And CSC is only worth 10%, can we stop with the dramatics. You can bomb CSC and still get highly effective and definitely effective.


And to the parent pp. I was the poster who asked about standardized testing, I’m a teacher too.
We already have those tests as part of our score. And they have been proven to be bias not just racially but towards those with disabilities as well.
However iReady is better than nothing. (I don’t think we should use parcc)


Changing the attendance might help, something should be done to balance it across the school system.

That 10% can be the difference between developing and effective or effective and highly effective. You cannot bomb CSC unless your other scores are perfect. That’s not being dramatic. Every school has a different CSC which is another issue. It’s all over the place.

To my knowledge the Union doesn’t advocate for or against taking the bonus. If you do accept it, you lose the year of job security if there is a reduction in force (I may be wording it incorrectly).

I do not think there is a limit to how many teachers at any specific school can get the bonus.
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There is definitely no maximum number of teachers who can receive highly effective, but I don’t know where the bonus money comes from(school budget vs. Central office). I believe principals are evaluated partially on how many highly effective teachers they retain each year.
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And to comment on IMPACT please note that Jason Kamras, one of the people in central office who helped create and defend impact, has not used the system in his current role as superintendent in Richmond and no longer endorses the method of evaluation as being effective. I think that says something about how useful IMPACT is.
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Anonymous wrote:This is my 10th year as a teacher in a DCPS Title I school. I have been rated highly effective each year, so I have been eligible for salary raises and bonuses. For those who are unfamiliar, if you get a lot of high scores on the evaluation, you can skip along the pay scale, so I am paid as if I have 25+ years of experience and a PhD. This program is an effort to retain the teachers DCPS has identified as really, really good. However, because I have maxed out on the pay scale and the contract has expired, I have not had any wage increase for several years. I am paid exactly the same amount as I was three years ago. I don’t know how many teachers are in my position but it is a poorly thought out policy that the “best” teachers get wage stagnation. I would be fine if the new contract was everything the same from the old contract (which it probably will be) and an automatic 3% or whatever COLA on the pay scale.


What's your salary? Just curious.


The teachers at the highest end of the pay scale make $116k plus 10-20k bonus per year depending on school and subject.


That bonus is only for highly effective teachers and it’s actually $2k-$20k.


Yeah....a teacher with 10 years of experience and no Ph.D. maxing out around $118k-$136k? You're doing just fine. There has to be a salary cap somewhere. That teacher is complaining that they got to the cap quickly.


She is also complaining that the cap has a flaw because it doesn’t adjust when there is no contract. So her pay has stayed the same. That doesn’t happen for GS-15s. If she has done such a good job, this does seem weird.
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Anonymous wrote:This is my 10th year as a teacher in a DCPS Title I school. I have been rated highly effective each year, so I have been eligible for salary raises and bonuses. For those who are unfamiliar, if you get a lot of high scores on the evaluation, you can skip along the pay scale, so I am paid as if I have 25+ years of experience and a PhD. This program is an effort to retain the teachers DCPS has identified as really, really good. However, because I have maxed out on the pay scale and the contract has expired, I have not had any wage increase for several years. I am paid exactly the same amount as I was three years ago. I don’t know how many teachers are in my position but it is a poorly thought out policy that the “best” teachers get wage stagnation. I would be fine if the new contract was everything the same from the old contract (which it probably will be) and an automatic 3% or whatever COLA on the pay scale.


What's your salary? Just curious.


The teachers at the highest end of the pay scale make $116k plus 10-20k bonus per year depending on school and subject.


That bonus is only for highly effective teachers and it’s actually $2k-$20k.


Yeah....a teacher with 10 years of experience and no Ph.D. maxing out around $118k-$136k? You're doing just fine. There has to be a salary cap somewhere. That teacher is complaining that they got to the cap quickly.


She is also complaining that the cap has a flaw because it doesn’t adjust when there is no contract. So her pay has stayed the same. That doesn’t happen for GS-15s. If she has done such a good job, this does seem weird.


Of course that happens for the government. There are years with no COL increase.
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WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher
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Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her
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Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her


She's one of the big reasons why we can't be taken seriously by the general public in my view
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her


She's one of the big reasons why we can't be taken seriously by the general public in my view


She probably shouldn’t be our most public facing member but nobody else wants to take that on so I don’t Really know how to solve that
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Anonymous wrote:And to comment on IMPACT please note that Jason Kamras, one of the people in central office who helped create and defend impact, has not used the system in his current role as superintendent in Richmond and no longer endorses the method of evaluation as being effective. I think that says something about how useful IMPACT is.


It's because he is in a political role now

When impact was instituted, there was a lot of dead weight in the teacher ranks. Think the marion barry jobs program

Most private sectors employers have some kind of evaluation process

It's interesting reading these comments, unions are designed to protect the rank and file average folks where pay is based on seniority instead of talent. If you are a top performer there is 0 reason to support the union.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her


No, she is a hostile basket case who thrives off of being perceived as such. Not a great leader!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her


She's one of the big reasons why we can't be taken seriously by the general public in my view


She probably shouldn’t be our most public facing member but nobody else wants to take that on so I don’t Really know how to solve that


+2
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her


She's one of the big reasons why we can't be taken seriously by the general public in my view


She probably shouldn’t be our most public facing member but nobody else wants to take that on so I don’t Really know how to solve that


Don't you guys VOTE on your elected leaders? I'm lost as to how you hate her but she gets elected. Does she just run unopposed?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTU should never be taken seriously as long as this person is around

https://twitter.com/DCWard7teacher


Honestly, just rude and uncalled for. It’s good to have different voices in the room. I rarely agree with Laura but I think she’s an honest and well meaning advocate for workers rights. Our union would be better if we had more outspoken members like her


She's one of the big reasons why we can't be taken seriously by the general public in my view


She probably shouldn’t be our most public facing member but nobody else wants to take that on so I don’t Really know how to solve that


+2


+100 I voted for her opponent who seems rational. Not sure why others didn’t. I don’t think she’s a bad person, she’s just passionate maybe to a fault.
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Anonymous wrote:And to comment on IMPACT please note that Jason Kamras, one of the people in central office who helped create and defend impact, has not used the system in his current role as superintendent in Richmond and no longer endorses the method of evaluation as being effective. I think that says something about how useful IMPACT is.


It's because he is in a political role now

When impact was instituted, there was a lot of dead weight in the teacher ranks. Think the marion barry jobs program

Most private sectors employers have some kind of evaluation process

It's interesting reading these comments, unions are designed to protect the rank and file average folks where pay is based on seniority instead of talent. If you are a top performer there is 0 reason to support the union.


PP and I should clarify I’m not against evaluating teachers. I actually think the master educator program was a good idea because it helps with bias by administration. I just think evaluating all teachers across the district by the same rubric is unfair- and I say this as someone from a well resourced, ‘highly regarded’ school. It’s easier to get effective or highly effective at my school than many others just by virtue of the student population we teach.
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