Is Bowser's goal really to damage and destroy DC public schools?

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in the future if I want to shut down a discussion on DCUM I'm just going to type incoherently with no paragraph breaks and generate a wall of text.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm basically just shocked you still have WTU officials stating that schools aren't safe for in-person instruction. It seems increasingly devoid from reality.

I’m also shocked that you believe this is happening. Can you find those officials because I haven’t seen anyone say that. They have been asking for repairs
And upkeep for their buildings but that is not the same as saying schools are unsafe for students

I clicked on the tweet on the first page of this thread. Scroll down one tweet for Fuchs saying that if Central office doesn't have to go to work in person, that suggests it isn't safe for teachers to teach in person.

She also has testimony from the beginning of the school year saying that in-person learning is unsafe.

Here's her testimony from Aug. 23: "It is NOT safe to return to in person instruction. Advertising it as such is a recipe for disaster."

https://www.dccoreunion.org/post/dc-core-co-chair-laura-fuchs-sboe-testimony-on-reopening

That is from before this school year even started. Find me something that says that WTU officials are still saying schools are not safe for reopening

Already did, above.

You know what? I take it back. I assumed badly that because the tweet on the first page of this thread was linked now, that it was a recent tweet. It is from Oct. 7, 2020.

Mea culpa.

How about a mea culpa from WTU? Did they say they were wrong when they said schools were unsafe? Did they apologize for parading child size coffins around? What about when they brought bodybags to the city government, labeled "your favorite teacher"? Did they apologize for forcing schools to close on Wednesday for completely needless "deep cleaning"? Did they apologize for keeping schools closed here far, far longer than they needed? Seems like WTU has a lot to apologize for.

Howaboutism is a lot like whataboutism

DP. The PP’s post has nothing to do with whataboutism. She isn’t countering a request from the previous poster in order to deflect. She is making the very valid point that grave mistakes were made and it would be nice to see that acknowledged by those responsible for it. There will be a reckoning at some point, if not now by those culpable, it will come from those who were harmed when they grow up. I know that is an uncomfortable thought for many.

Have to add that the bolder is both weird and kinda threatening. Are you saying that the children who learned at home for a year will rise up against their teachers? Sounds like an m night shamylan movie

No, that’s not what I’m saying. You are taking things too literally and personally, which is what’s weird. What I’m saying is that history will not judge these decisions and their makers kindly. It would be nice if that reckoning could happen earlier — not for purposes of revenge as you seem to assume, but in order to avoid repeating these mistakes during the next pandemic, which may not be another 100 years away.

This makes no sense. What reckoning? You sound nuts. There has been no reckoning for the Iraq war or countless other things.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm basically just shocked you still have WTU officials stating that schools aren't safe for in-person instruction. It seems increasingly devoid from reality.

I’m also shocked that you believe this is happening. Can you find those officials because I haven’t seen anyone say that. They have been asking for repairs
And upkeep for their buildings but that is not the same as saying schools are unsafe for students

I clicked on the tweet on the first page of this thread. Scroll down one tweet for Fuchs saying that if Central office doesn't have to go to work in person, that suggests it isn't safe for teachers to teach in person.

She also has testimony from the beginning of the school year saying that in-person learning is unsafe.

Here's her testimony from Aug. 23: "It is NOT safe to return to in person instruction. Advertising it as such is a recipe for disaster."

https://www.dccoreunion.org/post/dc-core-co-chair-laura-fuchs-sboe-testimony-on-reopening

That is from before this school year even started. Find me something that says that WTU officials are still saying schools are not safe for reopening

Already did, above.

You know what? I take it back. I assumed badly that because the tweet on the first page of this thread was linked now, that it was a recent tweet. It is from Oct. 7, 2020.

Mea culpa.

How about a mea culpa from WTU? Did they say they were wrong when they said schools were unsafe? Did they apologize for parading child size coffins around? What about when they brought bodybags to the city government, labeled "your favorite teacher"? Did they apologize for forcing schools to close on Wednesday for completely needless "deep cleaning"? Did they apologize for keeping schools closed here far, far longer than they needed? Seems like WTU has a lot to apologize for.

Howaboutism is a lot like whataboutism

DP. The PP’s post has nothing to do with whataboutism. She isn’t countering a request from the previous poster in order to deflect. She is making the very valid point that grave mistakes were made and it would be nice to see that acknowledged by those responsible for it. There will be a reckoning at some point, if not now by those culpable, it will come from those who were harmed when they grow up. I know that is an uncomfortable thought for many.

Have to add that the bolder is both weird and kinda threatening. Are you saying that the children who learned at home for a year will rise up against their teachers? Sounds like an m night shamylan movie

No, that’s not what I’m saying. You are taking things too literally and personally, which is what’s weird. What I’m saying is that history will not judge these decisions and their makers kindly. It would be nice if that reckoning could happen earlier — not for purposes of revenge as you seem to assume, but in order to avoid repeating these mistakes during the next pandemic, which may not be another 100 years away.

This makes no sense. What reckoning? You sound nuts. There has been no reckoning for the Iraq war or countless other things.

That poster has already clarified themselves.

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Some parents on this thread are nuts. I bet they are not even from the DC area. You are free to move to Florida or Texas or any other anti union state. I like my kid’s teachers and don’t think of them as the devil incarnate. I don’t blame them for being scared of Covid last fall.

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Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Some parents on this thread are nuts. I bet they are not even from the DC area. You are free to move to Florida or Texas or any other anti union state. I like my kid’s teachers and don’t think of them as the devil incarnate. I don’t blame them for being scared of Covid last fall.

I am one of the posters you think are nuts. I LOVE my kids’ teachers and I hold no grudge against them. I don’t know where they personally stood on the school closures. Believe it or not, it is possible to separate my strong conviction that the school closures were a consequential mistake from my feelings towards individual teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm basically just shocked you still have WTU officials stating that schools aren't safe for in-person instruction. It seems increasingly devoid from reality.

I’m also shocked that you believe this is happening. Can you find those officials because I haven’t seen anyone say that. They have been asking for repairs
And upkeep for their buildings but that is not the same as saying schools are unsafe for students

I clicked on the tweet on the first page of this thread. Scroll down one tweet for Fuchs saying that if Central office doesn't have to go to work in person, that suggests it isn't safe for teachers to teach in person.

She also has testimony from the beginning of the school year saying that in-person learning is unsafe.

Here's her testimony from Aug. 23: "It is NOT safe to return to in person instruction. Advertising it as such is a recipe for disaster."

https://www.dccoreunion.org/post/dc-core-co-chair-laura-fuchs-sboe-testimony-on-reopening

That is from before this school year even started. Find me something that says that WTU officials are still saying schools are not safe for reopening

Already did, above.

You know what? I take it back. I assumed badly that because the tweet on the first page of this thread was linked now, that it was a recent tweet. It is from Oct. 7, 2020.

Mea culpa.

How about a mea culpa from WTU? Did they say they were wrong when they said schools were unsafe? Did they apologize for parading child size coffins around? What about when they brought bodybags to the city government, labeled "your favorite teacher"? Did they apologize for forcing schools to close on Wednesday for completely needless "deep cleaning"? Did they apologize for keeping schools closed here far, far longer than they needed? Seems like WTU has a lot to apologize for.

Howaboutism is a lot like whataboutism

DP. The PP’s post has nothing to do with whataboutism. She isn’t countering a request from the previous poster in order to deflect. She is making the very valid point that grave mistakes were made and it would be nice to see that acknowledged by those responsible for it. There will be a reckoning at some point, if not now by those culpable, it will come from those who were harmed when they grow up. I know that is an uncomfortable thought for many.

Have to add that the bolder is both weird and kinda threatening. Are you saying that the children who learned at home for a year will rise up against their teachers? Sounds like an m night shamylan movie

No, that’s not what I’m saying. You are taking things too literally and personally, which is what’s weird. What I’m saying is that history will not judge these decisions and their makers kindly. It would be nice if that reckoning could happen earlier — not for purposes of revenge as you seem to assume, but in order to avoid repeating these mistakes during the next pandemic, which may not be another 100 years away.

This makes no sense. What reckoning? You sound nuts. There has been no reckoning for the Iraq war or countless other things.

Of course there has been a reckoning about the Iraq war. Where have you been? Or how do you define reckoning? This isn’t about seeing heads roll.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

I think there's a lot of frustration with the woke left who runs the D.C. government. I don't know why someone doesnt challenge Bowser from the right, as a more centrist Democrat. I think they would win in a walk.

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Anonymous wrote:Some parents on this thread are nuts. I bet they are not even from the DC area. You are free to move to Florida or Texas or any other anti union state. I like my kid’s teachers and don’t think of them as the devil incarnate. I don’t blame them for being scared of Covid last fall.

I also found how DC threw mothers and children under the bus last year pretty abhorrent, but that doesn't mean I hate my kids' teachers. Mostly I've just lost a lot of trust in DC's education system. I'm not going to do anything bad (like shout at teachers or staff), but I do not believe the school will provide an adequate education for my children. I will have to step in and make up for shortcomings. That just means time and money that I would have spent on the school community will be spent individually, on my own kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

I think there's a lot of frustration with the woke left who runs the D.C. government. I don't know why someone doesnt challenge Bowser from the right, as a more centrist Democrat. I think they would win in a walk.

I've come to realize that most of the Council seems absolutely nutballz. I'm not sure they have much power, but at least this past year made me a far more avid watcher of Council hearings.

Bowser seems like she basically has it under control (as much as anything in DC is under control, by which I mean barely). I think she's as centrist as you're going to get in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

By pro-gentrification, do you mean to say that you are in favor of DC residents who have lived here for a long time being priced out of the city, uprooted and having their communities destroyed? You are in favor of that? Why?

It sounds like you are saying that rather than having schools serve the population of the city, you’d like to ethnically cleanse DC. To get rid of kids you deem unworthy. And you don’t like politicians who disagree with your approach. Is that what you are saying?

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

I think there's a lot of frustration with the woke left who runs the D.C. government. I don't know why someone doesnt challenge Bowser from the right, as a more centrist Democrat. I think they would win in a walk.

DC needs to move to a non-partisan primary.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

By pro-gentrification, do you mean to say that you are in favor of DC residents who have lived here for a long time being priced out of the city, uprooted and having their communities destroyed? You are in favor of that? Why?

It sounds like you are saying that rather than having schools serve the population of the city, you’d like to ethnically cleanse DC. To get rid of kids you deem unworthy. And you don’t like politicians who disagree with your approach. Is that what you are saying?

Nobody calls it gentrification anymore. Now they call it "increasing density" and apparently everyone loves it now that it has a new name.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

I think there's a lot of frustration with the woke left who runs the D.C. government. I don't know why someone doesnt challenge Bowser from the right, as a more centrist Democrat. I think they would win in a walk.

DC needs to move to a non-partisan primary.

All in favor of that. Partisan primaries in one party cities are a pernicious thing. They force politicians to dote on the nutty extremists because they represent such a big share of primary voters.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else like me where they are actually pro-gentrification and anti progressive-left on school policy? The schools only got better recently because of gentrification and now there is this massive pushback to try and screw that all up.

Whether it’s stop things like ending Gift and talented or ap classes, or stopping public schools from watering down the rigor of their curriculum to meet amorphous equity goals? I also think restorative justice is a joke. I want schools to implement policies that help advanced learners excel. I live in dc, but I’m tired of overpaid Uber liberal bureaucrats and their meddling ways. Charters are a good thing.

I think there's a lot of frustration with the woke left who runs the D.C. government. I don't know why someone doesnt challenge Bowser from the right, as a more centrist Democrat. I think they would win in a walk.

I've come to realize that most of the Council seems absolutely nutballz. I'm not sure they have much power, but at least this past year made me a far more avid watcher of Council hearings.

Bowser seems like she basically has it under control (as much as anything in DC is under control, by which I mean barely). I think she's as centrist as you're going to get in DC.

This is sadly so true.