What happens if I tell my kid not to do ST Math at school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to do pointless busy work you think is below you is good preparation for life. If I was the teacher and you opted him out because he’s too smart for it, I’d have him count grains of rice in a bowl

My concern is they're not doing anything related to 4th grade math here. I'm hoping this is just 2nd week review and they'll move on, but not really sure. They don't even have any homework so far, not even 15-20 mins, which again feels a bit ridiculous in 4th AAP class.

Maybe you should mention to the teacher that your kid is aap, just incase they don’t know

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you sound crazy. No you don't have the "right" to dictate instruction for your child at school. Stay in your lane. That would be like the teacher informing you that she will be setting your child's bedtime and screen restrictions at home.

I understand that, but it would be equally crazy not to intervene at all here... especially if this continues and they're learning nothing, and get no homework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you refuse digital permission?

ST Math is not one of the programs that requires separate digital permissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my experience, nothing. Most teachers are way too busy to check STMath. But your teacher can assign different modules and her “it will make others feel bad” line is ridiculous…it’s not like kids are looking over at what each other is doing on ST. The whole point is it’s supposed to be adaptive.

Last year most teachers really just used it as a ritation that yeh didn’t have to plan so they could focus on planning targeted small group interventions. I wouldn’t stress about it at all.

Neither of my kids teachers had small group meetings and both were assigned many hours of ST Math. And one of the teachers sent emails to us that Larlo wasn’t completing his assigned ST math minutes.

Were our kids in the same class? lol. Same here. No small groups for the entire year and ST math assigned every week. Also teacher sent emails if it was not done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having to do pointless busy work you think is below you is good preparation for life. If I was the teacher and you opted him out because he’s too smart for it, I’d have him count grains of rice in a bowl

My concern is they're not doing anything related to 4th grade math here. I'm hoping this is just 2nd week review and they'll move on, but not really sure. They don't even have any homework so far, not even 15-20 mins, which again feels a bit ridiculous in 4th AAP class.

Maybe you should mention to the teacher that your kid is aap, just incase they don’t know

Wait, how did you know that their kid is aap? Has this been brought up?

[Anonymous]

Poor teacher.
Tell your kid that performing boring, meaningless tasks that are below you is good practice for the job market.

Have him do math at home if you feel he needs additional math.

No, you don’t get to decide whether your kid does the assigned curriculum, but you are certainly free to pull him out if you think you can do a better job than the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poor teacher.
Tell your kid that performing boring, meaningless tasks that are below you is good practice for the job market.

Have him do math at home if you feel he needs additional math.

No, you don’t get to decide whether your kid does the assigned curriculum, but you are certainly free to pull him out if you think you can do a better job than the school.

Disagree, preparing an elementary school kid for the "job market" via meaningless tasks is one of the worst things to do to a kid. Sucking the joy of learning something new sets them up to hate learning for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Poor teacher.
Tell your kid that performing boring, meaningless tasks that are below you is good practice for the job market.

Have him do math at home if you feel he needs additional math.

No, you don’t get to decide whether your kid does the assigned curriculum, but you are certainly free to pull him out if you think you can do a better job than the school.

Disagree, preparing an elementary school kid for the "job market" via meaningless tasks is one of the worst things to do to a kid. Sucking the joy of learning something new sets them up to hate learning for life.

+1

[Anonymous]

I also have an AAP 4th grader.

Last year during virtual for all - the teacher called me to say that our son was not doing ST math and I flipped her to my husband who is a math teacher. So my husband says to her: he doesn’t like ST math, and I’m a math teacher & I teach him math & we’re just not gonna make him do it - it’s not worth it.

Anyway the teacher gave him some kind of song and dance about how he had to do ST math because it tracks their progress and she needed that and she couldn’t rely on my husband telling her he was making progress … so we told him he had to do it…

[Anonymous]

My kid got a good math teacher this year. No ST Math so far!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having to do pointless busy work you think is below you is good preparation for life. If I was the teacher and you opted him out because he’s too smart for it, I’d have him count grains of rice in a bowl

Ouch!

[Anonymous]

It is only the second week of school. Give the teacher some time before you start complaining.

[Anonymous]

There is a digital permission form that parents need to sign to use the FCPS apps. For our elementary school there are something like 80 apps on that list. You are able to email the teacher and refuse apps on a one-off basis so there is some "pick and choose". Those apps are mind numbing. For the poster who suggested that it's great preparation for life, they must be kidding. If all you want your kid to do is collect a paycheck, then by all means, numb their brains. I hope my kids, and most of their peers, earn a living by thinking in their jobs and not just collect that paycheck.

[Anonymous]

Anyone have a list of the apps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also have an AAP 4th grader.

Last year during virtual for all - the teacher called me to say that our son was not doing ST math and I flipped her to my husband who is a math teacher. So my husband says to her: he doesn’t like ST math, and I’m a math teacher & I teach him math & we’re just not gonna make him do it - it’s not worth it.

Anyway the teacher gave him some kind of song and dance about how he had to do ST math because it tracks their progress and she needed that and she couldn’t rely on my husband telling her he was making progress … so we told him he had to do it…

This is not where I thought your story was going. Your DH math teacher should know better than to suck all the joy out of learning by forcing ST Math.

Shouldn't the teacher be tracking their progress...by assigning work and then grading it?