APS PTA -> PTO transition?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any APS schools switched from a PTA to PTO structure? Or even tried the process?

It seems like schools could use more $$$ locally instead of sending to the CCPTA, VAPTA & National PTA.

Fees are fairly low and may be worth it to not deal with setting up and maintaining non-profit status...

National $2.25/member
State $1.50/member
CCTA $0.25/member

Some schools have limited budgets - are these fees optional?

Suggestion has been made; but it's a grass-roots issue that should form and bring to Regional and State PTA in stronger voice. But the bottom line (no pun intended) is that poorer PTAs often also have fewer members and the dues are so nominal it really wouldn't make a difference in the PTA's budget. Nevertheless, there's nothing stopping a more affluent PTA from paying the dues for a less affluent PTA!

DP. I'm not completely sure about this, but I believe organizing as a PTA rather than PTO is a key part of how CCPTA is able to maintain the funding pool used to assist less affluent PTAs. Because the PTAs are all under organized under the same umbrella, I think that gives more affluent PTAs a greater ability to contribute funds to less affluent PTAs through the CCPTA or joint fundraising events without violating bylaws or other restrictions. If any schools convert to PTOs, it would be very difficult to craft bylaws that allowed those kinds of transfers without violating what the stated mission of the individual organization . That's not an issue if all members support funds transfers to other PTOs, but all it would take is one paying member who disagrees to make serious legal trouble for the PTO and its board members.

None of this is accurate.

Could you explain what's not accurate? PTAs can give money to each other. That's accurate. PTA's can help other PTAs by donating to CCPTA's collaborative initiative fund, or whatever it's called. Can PTOs do the same with PTAs?

Yes.

Yes, PTAs can donate to other non-profit organizations that have similar missions.

And PTOs can do the same?

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative neighborhoods don't want to support PTA. They lobby their neighbors to switch to PTO. They will say it's to keep more money locally. That is true -- But the movement started because of politics.

It would make sense since the National and State PTAs are far left in their policy positions and the legislation that they lobby for and support (how do they do so much of that as a c3 anyway?). But since the National, State and local PTAs kept quiet on school closings, people are looking for alternatives regardless of politics. Why shouldn't people look for alternatives when their local PTA did nothing to help kids this year?

We should ask the Catholics and evangelicals the same question.

Many PTAs did A LOT to support kids this year. More than ignorant Republican trash.

What?

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Anonymous wrote:Have any APS schools switched from a PTA to PTO structure? Or even tried the process?

It seems like schools could use more $$$ locally instead of sending to the CCPTA, VAPTA & National PTA.

Fees are fairly low and may be worth it to not deal with setting up and maintaining non-profit status...

National $2.25/member
State $1.50/member
CCTA $0.25/member

Some schools have limited budgets - are these fees optional?

Suggestion has been made; but it's a grass-roots issue that should form and bring to Regional and State PTA in stronger voice. But the bottom line (no pun intended) is that poorer PTAs often also have fewer members and the dues are so nominal it really wouldn't make a difference in the PTA's budget. Nevertheless, there's nothing stopping a more affluent PTA from paying the dues for a less affluent PTA!

DP. I'm not completely sure about this, but I believe organizing as a PTA rather than PTO is a key part of how CCPTA is able to maintain the funding pool used to assist less affluent PTAs. Because the PTAs are all under organized under the same umbrella, I think that gives more affluent PTAs a greater ability to contribute funds to less affluent PTAs through the CCPTA or joint fundraising events without violating bylaws or other restrictions. If any schools convert to PTOs, it would be very difficult to craft bylaws that allowed those kinds of transfers without violating what the stated mission of the individual organization . That's not an issue if all members support funds transfers to other PTOs, but all it would take is one paying member who disagrees to make serious legal trouble for the PTO and its board members.

None of this is accurate.

Could you explain what's not accurate? PTAs can give money to each other. That's accurate. PTA's can help other PTAs by donating to CCPTA's collaborative initiative fund, or whatever it's called. Can PTOs do the same with PTAs?

Yes.

Yes, PTAs can donate to other non-profit organizations that have similar missions.

And PTOs can do the same?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservative neighborhoods don't want to support PTA. They lobby their neighbors to switch to PTO. They will say it's to keep more money locally. That is true -- But the movement started because of politics.

It would make sense since the National and State PTAs are far left in their policy positions and the legislation that they lobby for and support (how do they do so much of that as a c3 anyway?). But since the National, State and local PTAs kept quiet on school closings, people are looking for alternatives regardless of politics. Why shouldn't people look for alternatives when their local PTA did nothing to help kids this year?

We should ask the Catholics and evangelicals the same question.

Many PTAs did A LOT to support kids this year. More than ignorant Republican trash.

Didn't those groups actually open up schools instead of demanding to "Shut it down!" hand in hand with teachers' unions?

I’m talking about the amount of lobbying they do despite non-profit status.

You’re right though. They are also well-known for looking the other way when it comes to kids’ safety.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative neighborhoods don't want to support PTA. They lobby their neighbors to switch to PTO. They will say it's to keep more money locally. That is true -- But the movement started because of politics.

It would make sense since the National and State PTAs are far left in their policy positions and the legislation that they lobby for and support (how do they do so much of that as a c3 anyway?). But since the National, State and local PTAs kept quiet on school closings, people are looking for alternatives regardless of politics. Why shouldn't people look for alternatives when their local PTA did nothing to help kids this year?

Solution for you: if you think the PTA is too far left, because they wouldn’t join you in your toddler melt downs this past year, there are a number of conservative religious private schools more than happy to take your money. F*** off.