S/o which brands not to own out of warranty?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep any vehicles from Japan 🇯🇵…..

Stay away from Korean brand™️ KIA as well as anything Hyundai.
As Japanese vehicles age - they lose value a lot.
The Honda’s/Toyota’s/Subarus/Etc. will hold their values better.

My dad lives out in the country and has a ridiculous commute 100+ miles/day. They use Kias for their commuter in non-winter months. They have had multiple go past 200,000 miles averaging 40mph. They have good warranties but haven’t had to use them AFAIK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proceed with caution with the Germans. They're great cars, but you need to know what you're getting into if owning out of warranty. That's not to say you shouldn't, but it's important to be aware of the ongoing maintenance and repair costs, and to find a trusted mechanic. BMW used to have excellent extended warranty coverage for its certified pre-owned fleet, but that's been pared back quite a bit in recent few years, such that their CPOs aren't the value proposition they once were. If purchasing a CPO from a dealer, you might be able to negotiate an extended warranty, but they can be pricey. Alternatively, there are number of reputable third party extended warranties you can purchase that get good reviews -- Route 66 generally gets positive reviews on the BMW forums. There are others; make sure to read the fine print re: coverage, and know how to submit a claim.

Why are they "great cars" if they need so much $$$ maintenance?

These things aren’t mutually exclusive. They provide a great driving experience, but they have performance engines, and these can have high long-term maintenance costs when owning out of warranty. And that’s fine, just be aware of it. Generally, performance cars/luxury products/etc. carry higher maintenance costs.

[Anonymous]

I will give you an example of German nonsense.

I had a five series front right turn indicator went. Dealer wanted $200 for a bulb. I did it took two hours as could not get it from top
And had huge plastic panel covering bottom of engine I had to remove and replace with car on ramp.

My battery went cost me $500. BMW if you revive battery in a non dealer won’t restart as whole complicated thing you restart computer.

My run flat tires were over $500 each.

Oil change $200 BMW vs $19.99 with a coupon for Ford

Same time I had a old Ford Taurus station wagon I use for city driving. Twilight $4 bucks popped in two seconds, battery $89 free install at auto zone and tired were $49 each at Costco.

That says the Ford felt Like crap next to BMW driving wise.

My brother owns a 2002 BMW he fixes it himself with internet parts and has a quality local independent guy for what he can’t do so can be done. My trouble my newer BMW was much more complex so almost impossible to do anything

[Anonymous]

Mercedes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep any vehicles from Japan 🇯🇵…..

Stay away from Korean brand™️ KIA as well as anything Hyundai.
As Japanese vehicles age - they lose value a lot.
The Honda’s/Toyota’s/Subarus/Etc. will hold their values better.

You said that Japanese vehicles lose value a lot, but Honda, Toyota and Subaru hold their value better. Those are all Japanese vehicles, are they not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Land Rover!!! They didn’t earn that terrible reputation for reliability for nothing...

I loved my LR4. But at exactly 3.5 years literally everything stopped working. Electrical issues, gas tank reader, the power would shut off in the middle of driving and all gauges would go blank. I sold it. Will never buy a Land Rover again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will give you an example of German nonsense.

I had a five series front right turn indicator went. Dealer wanted $200 for a bulb. I did it took two hours as could not get it from top
And had huge plastic panel covering bottom of engine I had to remove and replace with car on ramp.

My battery went cost me $500. BMW if you revive battery in a non dealer won’t restart as whole complicated thing you restart computer.

My run flat tires were over $500 each.

Oil change $200 BMW vs $19.99 with a coupon for Ford

Same time I had a old Ford Taurus station wagon I use for city driving. Twilight $4 bucks popped in two seconds, battery $89 free install at auto zone and tired were $49 each at Costco.

That says the Ford felt Like crap next to BMW driving wise.

My brother owns a 2002 BMW he fixes it himself with internet parts and has a quality local independent guy for what he can’t do so can be done. My trouble my newer BMW was much more complex so almost impossible to do anything

I call BS. No BMW driver I’ve ever seen actually uses turn signals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep any vehicles from Japan 🇯🇵…..

Stay away from Korean brand™️ KIA as well as anything Hyundai.
As Japanese vehicles age - they lose value a lot.
The Honda’s/Toyota’s/Subarus/Etc. will hold their values better.

You said that Japanese vehicles lose value a lot, but Honda, Toyota and Subaru hold their value better. Those are all Japanese vehicles, are they not?

The next post corrected this one to say they meant to say "As Korean vehicles age - they lose value a lot"

[Anonymous]

I’ve spent $5000 repairing my low mileage FIAT so far over the years. The warranty is short for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Not sure I agree with the comments about Kia - their reliability has improved over the years, but if they need repairs, I can't imagine they would cost as much as Europeans. I would think that repairs would cost similar to costs for Japanese repairs.