SOL screwup

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you want it on a silver platter or something? How many students were able to figure out where to go?


This is the new Executive Functioning part of the SOLs. This student does not exhibit pass advanced scores. There will be openings at McDonalds.


PP here. Exhibits A and B.
Anonymous
I would call the school today and pull my kid out of that SOL. Wait until late June, at the end of an exhausting year? Nope. Seriously. Not worth it this year. Stand up for your kid on this one.
Anonymous
What age? Which SOL? Does kid need the SOL? Opt out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP....put your big girl pants on and take responsibility.


Missing the test is on the kid (unless he has executive functioning issues)

The tantrum is on the parent

But who cares about middle school SOLs anyway?


Depends on the SOL. World Geography, for example counts as the one social studies verified credit students need to graduate high school. If they pass it in 8th grade, they don't take another social studies SOL again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He knew he was supposed to take it today? Why didn't he ask his first block teacher where the test was? Or pop into the office and say he didn't know where to go? That's kind of on him...

I mean, sure, sign him out, they're stupid and don't matter especially this year, but why is it the teacher's fault?


You're really going to blame the kid here?
I'm also a MS parent and my kid was attributed an "unexcused absence from one or more classes" because she WAS taking her SOL and was not in her first period class. Are you going to blame my child for that, too?


I mean, your scenario is completely the opposite. Everyone did what they were supposed to do, the office just didn’t override the attendance code.

Was the room communicated to the child ahead of time? Emailed to him? Written in a planner? Did they make an announcement for all testing kids to find their location? If none of those things happened, then yeah, school’s fault. If any of those were done though, the kid needs to be able to pipe up and admit he didn’t know where to go.


I cite it as illustration that even the MS staff doesn't always know what's going on. I don't think it's fair to blame the students if even their teachers don't know what's supposed to be happening.
Anonymous
My kid's elementary school gave them the wrong SOL test. Can't make this stuff up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He knew he was supposed to take it today? Why didn't he ask his first block teacher where the test was? Or pop into the office and say he didn't know where to go? That's kind of on him...

I mean, sure, sign him out, they're stupid and don't matter especially this year, but why is it the teacher's fault?


+1 He is in middle school. If he didn't speak up then this is on him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He knew he was supposed to take it today? Why didn't he ask his first block teacher where the test was? Or pop into the office and say he didn't know where to go? That's kind of on him...

I mean, sure, sign him out, they're stupid and don't matter especially this year, but why is it the teacher's fault?


You're really going to blame the kid here?
I'm also a MS parent and my kid was attributed an "unexcused absence from one or more classes" because she WAS taking her SOL and was not in her first period class. Are you going to blame my child for that, too?


I mean, your scenario is completely the opposite. Everyone did what they were supposed to do, the office just didn’t override the attendance code.

Was the room communicated to the child ahead of time? Emailed to him? Written in a planner? Did they make an announcement for all testing kids to find their location? If none of those things happened, then yeah, school’s fault. If any of those were done though, the kid needs to be able to pipe up and admit he didn’t know where to go.


I cite it as illustration that even the MS staff doesn't always know what's going on. I don't think it's fair to blame the students if even their teachers don't know what's supposed to be happening.


I don't think you realize how the testing process works. The tests are all online. No teacher is in charge of anything. The kids open their iPads or ChromeBooks, click on TestNav and then the assigned test opens. Teachers don't make the assignments. That is done by either central office staff or school counselors.

If you're going to be nasty then at least get your facts straight.
Anonymous
So after getting at least a half dozen messages over the last two weeks on both my land line and cell phone about the SOLs, plus I don't know how many text messages and emails, somehow my middle schooler went to school today with a full breakfast in his stomach and his iPad all charged etc. etc. and no one from the school directed him to the testing room, so he just went off to class. It somehow didn't get noticed until 2nd period (9:30), at which point it was way too late to start the test so they told him he would have to do the retake the last week of June. I've been willing to cut the teachers and admins so much slack this whole year, I'm sure it has all been exhausting, but COME ON. I am DONE, the whole SOL thing is so stupid anyhow, there is no way I am going to make him do a "retest" in three weeks to measure how little they covered this year. Filling out the form now
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He went off to class? Wasn't in-person class not held due to the fact that everyone in the class (who was in the building) would have been taking the SOL?
Are you sure, OP, that this is what happened?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
So after getting at least a half dozen messages over the last two weeks on both my land line and cell phone about the SOLs, plus I don't know how many text messages and emails, somehow my middle schooler went to school today with a full breakfast in his stomach and his iPad all charged etc. etc. and no one from the school directed him to the testing room, so he just went off to class. It somehow didn't get noticed until 2nd period (9:30), at which point it was way too late to start the test so they told him he would have to do the retake the last week of June. I've been willing to cut the teachers and admins so much slack this whole year, I'm sure it has all been exhausting, but COME ON. I am DONE, the whole SOL thing is so stupid anyhow, there is no way I am going to make him do a "retest" in three weeks to measure how little they covered this year. Filling out the form now
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He went off to class? Wasn't in-person class not held due to the fact that everyone in the class (who was in the building) would have been taking the SOL?
Are you sure, OP, that this is what happened?


This isn’t making sense to me either. Where did this happen, OP?
Anonymous
1) SOLS are on average less than 40 questions. It takes less than an hour for students to typically finish.
2) teachers are not allowed to give their own students an SOL. Kids log into their iPads and take the test that shows up. Teachers have no idea what’s on the actual screen or if it’s correct because these are not their own students.
3) my kids APS middle school has a big board at the entrance with everyone’s room assignment for testing. Your kid should know to check their assignment.
Anonymous
So opt him out. Don’t bother . It’s ok.
Anonymous
I’m not buying this. OP’s kid probably skipped the test on purpose and then claimed confusion when he got busted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He knew he was supposed to take it today? Why didn't he ask his first block teacher where the test was? Or pop into the office and say he didn't know where to go? That's kind of on him...

I mean, sure, sign him out, they're stupid and don't matter especially this year, but why is it the teacher's fault?


You're really going to blame the kid here?
I'm also a MS parent and my kid was attributed an "unexcused absence from one or more classes" because she WAS taking her SOL and was not in her first period class. Are you going to blame my child for that, too?


I mean, your scenario is completely the opposite. Everyone did what they were supposed to do, the office just didn’t override the attendance code.

Was the room communicated to the child ahead of time? Emailed to him? Written in a planner? Did they make an announcement for all testing kids to find their location? If none of those things happened, then yeah, school’s fault. If any of those were done though, the kid needs to be able to pipe up and admit he didn’t know where to go.


I cite it as illustration that even the MS staff doesn't always know what's going on. I don't think it's fair to blame the students if even their teachers don't know what's supposed to be happening.


I don't think you realize how the testing process works. The tests are all online. No teacher is in charge of anything. The kids open their iPads or ChromeBooks, click on TestNav and then the assigned test opens. Teachers don't make the assignments. That is done by either central office staff or school counselors.

If you're going to be nasty then at least get your facts straight.


The format of the test is irrelevant. All students taking the test are in the same room at the same time taking it. Students don't just log in from whatever classroom they're in. OP is right about how much emphasis administration puts on SOLs - the numerous email reminders and "tips" and pleadings to make sure your kid is well-rested and has a good breakfast (which they never do for any other test...just SOLs), the multiple emails with the SOL schedule (which does not tell parents or students what time they are supposed to be in what room for their test), etc. etc. So, absolutely the administration and teachers in the school should know what's going on and should be making sure students are where they're supposed to be.

I'm not convinced you know what you're talking about as much as you think you do. What do you even mean by the assignments aren't made by the teachers; but by Central office staff or school counselors? What "assignments"? Central office does not dictate the SOL schedule at each school. And they certainly don't make the room assignments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:1) SOLS are on average less than 40 questions. It takes less than an hour for students to typically finish.
2) teachers are not allowed to give their own students an SOL. Kids log into their iPads and take the test that shows up. Teachers have no idea what’s on the actual screen or if it’s correct because these are not their own students.
3) my kids APS middle school has a big board at the entrance with everyone’s room assignment for testing. Your kid should know to check their assignment.


Not every middle school has a big board at the entrance with everyon'e sroom assignment for testing.
And to previous responders' comments, no, not everyone stays at home unless they're taking an SOL in middle school. High school - yes. Middle schoolers going hybrid still go in. If that weren't the case, then a student wouldn't be able to be in class instead of at an SOL and a student wouldn't be marked unexcused absent for not being in class and taking an SOL somewhere else in the building.
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