40+ and untested embryos

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whoooooa. There is no way I would do that. Can you transfer 3 and then do an FET the next month with another 3 if it doesn’t work? You can often do them back to back. That is so much safer and greatly lowers your chances of potentially have sextuplets or more.

The doctor believes I’ll be lucky if any of them take.

I was in a similar situation years ago at SGF at age 41. Transferred all, none took. I’d been concerned I might have multiples, ha!

Yes, that’s always a risk—that none of them work. Implanting 6 means you also take the risk that they ALL stick. You have no choice in the former but you do in the later. Why put yourself in that position?

What are the chances that all of them stick being in your 40’s? I would say very low.

[Anonymous]

6?!?

Regardless of testing, why do you need to put them in all at once rather than a few now and freeze the rest for the next cycle??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:6?!?

Regardless of testing, why do you need to put them in all at once rather than a few now and freeze the rest for the next cycle??

This.

It is a huge risk to transfer six. I’d do three and if it doesn’t work do another three the following month. I would never ever take such a crazy unnecessary risk to you and the embryos. If there’s a complication, like multiple take and you, god forbid, lose one, you could lose all of them, lose everything. This is literally where you heed the advice of an idiom: don’t put all your eggs in one basket.

[Anonymous]

I transferred 15 untested embryos total (only 1 to 3 at a time) all while I was 40-42. None took (had a few chemical pregnancies) so now using a donor.

[Anonymous]

Why not test? Are you concerned about cost or risk to the embryos?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not test? Are you concerned about cost or risk to the embryos?

PGS testing is very inaccurate. There are a ton of reports on healthy live births from “abnormal” embryos. Just Google it.

It also adds $5000 per cycle and forces people to do more cycles. It really is a scam.

[Anonymous]

I find it hard to call PGS a scan. After 3 IVF resulted in only 1 early miscarriage we tested the remaining embryos and found all abnormal. 4th IVF we added DHEA to help with poor egg quality. Did PGS on the embryos and got 3 normal (1 abnormal). The first transferred normal embryo is a healthy toddler.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it hard to call PGS a scan. After 3 IVF resulted in only 1 early miscarriage we tested the remaining embryos and found all abnormal. 4th IVF we added DHEA to help with poor egg quality. Did PGS on the embryos and got 3 normal (1 abnormal). The first transferred normal embryo is a healthy toddler.

Anecdote is not evidence and your experience is not everyone’s. Here is the layman’s article on normal live births from so-called “abnormal” embryos:

https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/ivf-abnormal-embryos-new-last-chance.html

The are many such reports in the literature. If you want to take the risk of discarding embryos with potential, that’s on you. However, REIs that promote PGS are not informing patients of this serious risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I transferred 15 untested embryos total (only 1 to 3 at a time) all while I was 40-42. None took (had a few chemical pregnancies) so now using a donor.

See.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not test? Are you concerned about cost or risk to the embryos?

Obviously I would if I could but in my first cycle, none of them made it to blast and I ended up with nothing in the end so in cycles after that, they took the best 3 day embryos and froze them.

[Anonymous]

I had success at 40 with two untested day 3 embryos and had twins (both took). I cannot fathom potentially having sextuplets. Please be smart about this. What you’re taking about undertaking is gravely dangerous and borderline medically irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had success at 40 with two untested day 3 embryos and had twins (both took). I cannot fathom potentially having sextuplets. Please be smart about this. What you’re taking about undertaking is gravely dangerous and borderline medically irresponsible.

Congratulations

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it hard to call PGS a scan. After 3 IVF resulted in only 1 early miscarriage we tested the remaining embryos and found all abnormal. 4th IVF we added DHEA to help with poor egg quality. Did PGS on the embryos and got 3 normal (1 abnormal). The first transferred normal embryo is a healthy toddler.

Anecdote is not evidence and your experience is not everyone’s. Here is the layman’s article on normal live births from so-called “abnormal” embryos:

https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/ivf-abnormal-embryos-new-last-chance.html

The are many such reports in the literature. If you want to take the risk of discarding embryos with potential, that’s on you. However, REIs that promote PGS are not informing patients of this serious risk.

Although I agree PGT-A is clearly not perfect, that article is cited everywhere but is talking about old technology that isn’t used anymore and is less accurate, just FYI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whoooooa. There is no way I would do that. Can you transfer 3 and then do an FET the next month with another 3 if it doesn’t work? You can often do them back to back. That is so much safer and greatly lowers your chances of potentially have sextuplets or more.

The doctor believes I’ll be lucky if any of them take.

I was in a similar situation years ago at SGF at age 41. Transferred all, none took. I’d been concerned I might have multiples, ha!

My doctor is not concerned at all. I guess my changes of one sticking are slim to none!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoooooa. There is no way I would do that. Can you transfer 3 and then do an FET the next month with another 3 if it doesn’t work? You can often do them back to back. That is so much safer and greatly lowers your chances of potentially have sextuplets or more.

The doctor believes I’ll be lucky if any of them take.

I was in a similar situation years ago at SGF at age 41. Transferred all, none took. I’d been concerned I might have multiples, ha!

My doctor is not concerned at all. I guess my changes of one sticking are slim to none!!

You need to get a new doctor. That is medically negligent. What a terrible risk to put on you as a patient to assume, which could cause disastrous and lethal outcomes for you and the embryos.