Civil engineering and D3 soccer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are doing some college research for older kid, which is making my younger kid ask questions. He’s curious what schools might be a fit.

Any suggestions for an strong student who tests well but isn’t super academically motivated (e.g. not an MIT kid), and wants to study civil engineering and play D3 soccer? We would need either merit or good need based aid.

Union College in New York

NP. I love Union college. It’s a great overall engineering school with strong rep for spots. Not sure about civil engineering in particular.

[Anonymous]

^sorry it should be sports, not spots.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lafayette

Lafayette is D1. My impression is that D1 sports aren't realistic with a challenging major.

Out of all of the engineering majors, civil is the least challenging.

The D1 soccer engineers I know were all civil.

[Anonymous]

Make sure it is an ABET-accredited civil engineering program. Otherwise he will fast be dead-ended in the engineering world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are doing some college research for older kid, which is making my younger kid ask questions. He’s curious what schools might be a fit.

Any suggestions for an strong student who tests well but isn’t super academically motivated (e.g. not an MIT kid), and wants to study civil engineering and play D3 soccer? We would need either merit or good need based aid.

Union College in New York

NP. I love Union college. It’s a great overall engineering school with strong rep for spots. Not sure about civil engineering in particular.

Union has one of the largest and strongest engineering programs of the SLACs and D3 schools. I’m virtually positive they have civil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are doing some college research for older kid, which is making my younger kid ask questions. He’s curious what schools might be a fit.

Any suggestions for an strong student who tests well but isn’t super academically motivated (e.g. not an MIT kid), and wants to study civil engineering and play D3 soccer? We would need either merit or good need based aid.

Union College in New York

NP. I love Union college. It’s a great overall engineering school with strong rep for spots. Not sure about civil engineering in particular.

Union has one of the largest and strongest engineering programs of the SLACs and D3 schools. I’m virtually positive they have civil.

It's not on their list of majors. They have other types of engineering listed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swarthmore.
Just to be aware, an engineering program + significant extra curricular like varsity soccer may make it harder to graduate in 4 years.

Swarthmore would bury a not-motivated kid.

He's not exactly not-motivated, he does what he needs to do. But he's not like his brother who does academics for fun, math contests, voracious reading, etc . . .

I don't think he's a Swarthmore kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY

+1

It's a big plus that there will be several other engineers on the team so expectations for team responsibilities will be reasonable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are doing some college research for older kid, which is making my younger kid ask questions. He’s curious what schools might be a fit.

Any suggestions for an strong student who tests well but isn’t super academically motivated (e.g. not an MIT kid), and wants to study civil engineering and play D3 soccer? We would need either merit or good need based aid.

Union College in New York

NP. I love Union college. It’s a great overall engineering school with strong rep for spots. Not sure about civil engineering in particular.

Union has one of the largest and strongest engineering programs of the SLACs and D3 schools. I’m virtually positive they have civil.

It's not on their list of majors. They have other types of engineering listed.

That’s surprising. Otherwise sounds like would be perfect fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette

Lafayette is D1. My impression is that D1 sports aren't realistic with a challenging major.

Out of all of the engineering majors, civil is the least challenging.

The D1 soccer engineers I know were all civil.

What a bizarre statement. The first year of college is also the most challenging and all engineering classes are the same that first year.
Also, I don't think there's any evidence for civil being easier later on; it's just a different major with different classes. It does tend to pay less as a career; part of this is a large majority of civil engineering projects are taxpayer funded. It also had a higher proportion of women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette

Lafayette is D1. My impression is that D1 sports aren't realistic with a challenging major.

Out of all of the engineering majors, civil is the least challenging.

The D1 soccer engineers I know were all civil.

What a bizarre statement. The first year of college is also the most challenging and all engineering classes are the same that first year.
Also, I don't think there's any evidence for civil being easier later on; it's just a different major with different classes. It does tend to pay less as a career; part of this is a large majority of civil engineering projects are taxpayer funded. It also had a higher proportion of women.

This is correct, there's no "x engineering is more rigorous than y engineering" for the first year unless the engineering program isn't actually ABET Accredited. ABET Accreditation dictates most of the core coursework - as do requirements for taking the EIT which is a prerequisite for anyone who wants to get licensed to become a professional engineer in any field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Make sure it is an ABET-accredited civil engineering program. Otherwise he will fast be dead-ended in the engineering world.

OP here,

Are there non-ABET civil engineering programs? I found a list on the ABET website, which I am looking at, and it seems like most of the schools I've heard of are on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make sure it is an ABET-accredited civil engineering program. Otherwise he will fast be dead-ended in the engineering world.

OP here,

Are there non-ABET civil engineering programs? I found a list on the ABET website, which I am looking at, and it seems like most of the schools I've heard of are on it.

Almost all schools offering civil engineering as a major would be ABET accredited. You may see schools offering general engineering, engineering technology, or engineering science as a major that are not - mostly smaller or for profit schools without a full engineering department.
The thing to watch out for is the BA vs BS degree - many schools offer the BA in civil engineering as well as the BS - it's a few fewer classes than the BS but unfortunately harder to get licensed with a BA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Make sure it is an ABET-accredited civil engineering program. Otherwise he will fast be dead-ended in the engineering world.

OP here,

Are there non-ABET civil engineering programs? I found a list on the ABET website, which I am looking at, and it seems like most of the schools I've heard of are on it.

Almost all schools offering civil engineering as a major would be ABET accredited. You may see schools offering general engineering, engineering technology, or engineering science as a major that are not - mostly smaller or for profit schools without a full engineering department.
The thing to watch out for is the BA vs BS degree - many schools offer the BA in civil engineering as well as the BS - it's a few fewer classes than the BS but unfortunately harder to get licensed with a BA.

Thanks, that's helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clarkson University, Potsdam, NY

Yup