DC United Academy

Anonymous
Not sure if its true or not as I cant verify scores anywhere, but a parent mentioned that VDA U15's (i think is what she said) have won the last several games against DCU U15's recently. Per that parent, DCU does have good players but very little chemistry within the team.
Anonymous
Our Club beat them in a scrimmage, not VDA. They came frequently to scrimmages at our Club--even though people like to say that never happened
Anonymous
VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see 1-3 of the VDA players on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see 1-3 of the VDA players on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing. [/quote]

That's not what's unfair. Neither DC United, nor VDA, should have any "rights" to a human being.
Anonymous
The bottom line is that DCU is now free to play, while VDA and other local clubs are pay to play. This would be a big factor for most families, when deciding on the preferred destination for their player. I also find it ironic that the clubs want DCU to compensate them for developing a player, when they they already paid for their training when they charged thousands of dollars to the player and his parents.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see [b]1-3 of the VDA players [/b]on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing. [/quote]

That's not what's unfair. Neither DC United, nor VDA, should have any "rights" to a human being.[/quote]

Not sure about this. DCU does not field a u16 that i'm aware of.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We spoke to a former academy player who was at a local D1 University. His description of "online high school" while in the DC United Academy was appalling. He worked with a tutor who would do all his school work for him while he practiced...


So is he now at UNC?


No, left the local U. and attempted pro. He was living with a host family so he wasn't enrolled in a normal HS around here. He was from another nearby state. (PA I think)
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see [b]1-3 of the VDA players [/b]on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing. [/quote]

That's not what's unfair. Neither DC United, nor VDA, should have any "rights" to a human being.[/quote]

Not sure about this. DCU does not field a u16 that i'm aware of.[/quote]

1. Poster was talking about U15.
2. DCU does field a U16 team as well, which is not in a league, but plays scrimmages.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that DCU is now free to play, while VDA and other local clubs are pay to play. This would be a big factor for most families, when deciding on the preferred destination for their player.


I actually don't think this is a big factor for the kids who are good enough to get a spot. Firstly they were probably getting scholarships wherever they were previously playing if money is an issue for the family. And secondly they have ambitions for a professional career and are more worried about the quality of the coaching and opportunity than its price.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see 1-3 of the VDA players on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing. [/quote]

In the US, the youth club that developed the kid already got paid by the parents. That is their business model. The pro team takes the risk to develop them even further without cost to the player. They make their money on the back end when they either sell him or he makes the team. If he makes the team, he comes at a smaller price tag than if they have to go out and buy a player.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see 1-3 of the VDA players on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing. [/quote]

In the US, the youth club that developed the kid already got paid by the parents. That is their business model. The pro team takes the risk to develop them even further without cost to the player. They make their money on the back end when they either sell him or he makes the team. If he makes the team, he comes at a smaller price tag than if they have to go out and buy a player.[/quote]

DCU claims transfer rights for any kid from their home area even if they never played a single day for DCU's academy.

Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]VDA U-15 played three time vs DC. VDA has won 2 of the three meetings. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing. What will happen? Well you will see 1-3 of the VDA players on the DC roster next year. This is how it is supposed to work.

What i find unfair is DC will claim these kids and get transfer rights and the club that developed that child gets nothing. [/quote]

In the US, the youth club that developed the kid already got paid by the parents. That is their business model. The pro team takes the risk to develop them even further without cost to the player. They make their money on the back end when they either sell him or he makes the team. If he makes the team, he comes at a smaller price tag than if they have to go out and buy a player.[/quote]

DCU claims transfer rights for any kid from their home area even if they never played a single day for DCU's academy.

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Well that is stupid as shit, but MLS is weird, so maybe they have some agreement between clubs in the league. Either way, the feeder club won't get anything unless it is some club to club arrangement. We don't have the same rules as European clubs. It's every club for themselves for the most part.
Anonymous
Glad we circled back to the point. Yes parents foot the bill for the feeder clubs. In my humble opinion DC or any other MLS club should be giving some money back to the original club to lower club fees and better quality coaching. Then we could finally start having a true soccer system for our youth.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Glad we circled back to the point. Yes parents foot the bill for the feeder clubs. In my humble opinion DC or any other MLS club should be giving some money back to the original club to lower club fees and better quality coaching. Then we could finally start having a true soccer system for our youth. [/quote]

The single best thing we could do is remove the MLS territories. If DCU was not granted a semi-monopsony of this area it would be forced to compete for its kids with other MLS teams which would drive best practices throughout the country as MLS clubs improved their academies to attract the top talent.

I don't like the idea of paying the original club for kids because that acts as an incentive for DCU not to take that kid - and in general transfer payments are collusive arrangements which benefit clubs at the expense of players. I would much rather DCU spent any such money on funding scholarships for prospects who can't afford the fees at its feeder clubs.
Anonymous
Well it's too bad DCU youth academy has not made a full transitions to the new digs @Segra in Leesburg. Then again, you can't blame them considering the talent pool (or lack thereof) in the local area. Look at Loudoun in general, they are at the bottom of the pit in local youth soccer for the most part. I don't even think any of their teams qualified for the ecnl playoffs this summer.

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