no family gatherings until all adults are vaccinated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are having our first family gathering this weekend. 6 kids, none of whom have been vaccinated. And 10 adults, all of whom will be 100% vaccinated. The last person to get their 2nd shot is fully vaccinated as of tomorrow.

I'd use it as a way to pressure the holdouts. I'm not letting unvaccinated adults near my kids if I can help it. They won't be able to be vaccinated for 6 months or so.

What are you worried about? Unless your kids have an underlying health issue, kids are incredibly low risk for any serious effects of covid. The science is pretty definite on this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, it's not reasonable. Let your kids see their cousins. It's the unvaccinated adults who are putting themselves at risk; not you.

NP. The problem is, even though kids generally have mild cases when they get Covid, my kids are still in childcare. So if they test positive or are exposed they are home for two weeks and one of us can't work. It's not a huge issue in the immediate term for us because our family is all elsewhere and 75% of the adults are vaccinated at this point. The holdout is DH's sister and her family, all of whom are eligible now. We have tentative plans to see them later in the summer (for a weekend get-together). The teenagers apparently really want the vaccine so maybe it will be a non-issue by then, but DH is planning to ask her what their plans are and that we may need to re-evaluate if they don't get it. It would be one thing if they were living cautiously, but they're flying around everywhere and living their best life. Are they going to come take care of our kids for two weeks if they give them covid? Doubtful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It depends on your situation... my husband would gladly forego family visits or other sorts of exposure, to the disappointment of everyone around him, just because he wants to wait for the Novavax vaccine ***which has just been delayed***. So I told him that life would go on as if he were vaccinated. Which isn't saying much in terms of added exposure, since we have young children that can't receive any vaccines yet. But I will invite the grandparents to stay with us, just like every summer, we will have outdoor gatherings with friends, and go to restaurants, etc...

I refuse to be taken hostage by reluctant adults dragging their feet.

Looks like I’m with your husband. I now know three people vaccinated with Pfizer in the hospital with blood clots. No history prior. Clots came on shortly (within a couple weeks after vaccination). Before this, everyone I know who’s had Covid either survived or barely had symptoms. No long covid with any of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's not reasonable. Let your kids see their cousins. It's the unvaccinated adults who are putting themselves at risk; not you.

NP. The problem is, even though kids generally have mild cases when they get Covid, my kids are still in childcare. So if they test positive or are exposed they are home for two weeks and one of us can't work. It's not a huge issue in the immediate term for us because our family is all elsewhere and 75% of the adults are vaccinated at this point. The holdout is DH's sister and her family, all of whom are eligible now. We have tentative plans to see them later in the summer (for a weekend get-together). The teenagers apparently really want the vaccine so maybe it will be a non-issue by then, but DH is planning to ask her what their plans are and that we may need to re-evaluate if they don't get it. It would be one thing if they were living cautiously, but they're flying around everywhere and living their best life. Are they going to come take care of our kids for two weeks if they give them covid? Doubtful.

So do it for others means do it so you can work and keep your kids in childcare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's not reasonable. Let your kids see their cousins. It's the unvaccinated adults who are putting themselves at risk; not you.

NP. The problem is, even though kids generally have mild cases when they get Covid, my kids are still in childcare. So if they test positive or are exposed they are home for two weeks and one of us can't work. It's not a huge issue in the immediate term for us because our family is all elsewhere and 75% of the adults are vaccinated at this point. The holdout is DH's sister and her family, all of whom are eligible now. We have tentative plans to see them later in the summer (for a weekend get-together). The teenagers apparently really want the vaccine so maybe it will be a non-issue by then, but DH is planning to ask her what their plans are and that we may need to re-evaluate if they don't get it. It would be one thing if they were living cautiously, but they're flying around everywhere and living their best life. Are they going to come take care of our kids for two weeks if they give them covid? Doubtful.

So do it for others means do it so you can work and keep your kids in childcare?

Just explaining while letting our kids hang out with unvaccinated relatives is not necessarily a straightforward decision. Some of us don't have unlimited sick and annual leave (or have had to burn through it this past year). They are free to not get vaccinated, but we are free to avoid seeing them until our kids are. Thems the breaks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's not reasonable. Let your kids see their cousins. It's the unvaccinated adults who are putting themselves at risk; not you.

NP. The problem is, even though kids generally have mild cases when they get Covid, my kids are still in childcare. So if they test positive or are exposed they are home for two weeks and one of us can't work. It's not a huge issue in the immediate term for us because our family is all elsewhere and 75% of the adults are vaccinated at this point. The holdout is DH's sister and her family, all of whom are eligible now. We have tentative plans to see them later in the summer (for a weekend get-together). The teenagers apparently really want the vaccine so maybe it will be a non-issue by then, but DH is planning to ask her what their plans are and that we may need to re-evaluate if they don't get it. It would be one thing if they were living cautiously, but they're flying around everywhere and living their best life. Are they going to come take care of our kids for two weeks if they give them covid? Doubtful.

So do it for others means do it so you can work and keep your kids in childcare?

Just explaining while letting our kids hang out with unvaccinated relatives is not necessarily a straightforward decision. Some of us don't have unlimited sick and annual leave (or have had to burn through it this past year). They are free to not get vaccinated, but we are free to avoid seeing them until our kids are. Thems the breaks.

Also - there is an actual risk of COVID transmission that could be serious for the kids or adults. Not worth it. We do not socialize indoors with anyone unvaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are having our first family gathering this weekend. 6 kids, none of whom have been vaccinated. And 10 adults, all of whom will be 100% vaccinated. The last person to get their 2nd shot is fully vaccinated as of tomorrow.

I'd use it as a way to pressure the holdouts. I'm not letting unvaccinated adults near my kids if I can help it. They won't be able to be vaccinated for 6 months or so.

What are you worried about? Unless your kids have an underlying health issue, kids are incredibly low risk for any serious effects of covid. The science is pretty definite on this point.

This isn’t my situation, but why should I as a parent put my kids at ANY risk because some adults are being boneheaded? I would gather outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on your situation... my husband would gladly forego family visits or other sorts of exposure, to the disappointment of everyone around him, just because he wants to wait for the Novavax vaccine ***which has just been delayed***. So I told him that life would go on as if he were vaccinated. Which isn't saying much in terms of added exposure, since we have young children that can't receive any vaccines yet. But I will invite the grandparents to stay with us, just like every summer, we will have outdoor gatherings with friends, and go to restaurants, etc...

I refuse to be taken hostage by reluctant adults dragging their feet.

Looks like I’m with your husband. I now know three people vaccinated with Pfizer in the hospital with blood clots. No history prior. Clots came on shortly (within a couple weeks after vaccination). Before this, everyone I know who’s had Covid either survived or barely had symptoms. No long covid with any of them.

So, JJ was paused for six instances of clots...but, you personally know three hospitalized with Pfizer clots. SURE JAN!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's not reasonable. Let your kids see their cousins. It's the unvaccinated adults who are putting themselves at risk; not you.

NP. The problem is, even though kids generally have mild cases when they get Covid, my kids are still in childcare. So if they test positive or are exposed they are home for two weeks and one of us can't work. It's not a huge issue in the immediate term for us because our family is all elsewhere and 75% of the adults are vaccinated at this point. The holdout is DH's sister and her family, all of whom are eligible now. We have tentative plans to see them later in the summer (for a weekend get-together). The teenagers apparently really want the vaccine so maybe it will be a non-issue by then, but DH is planning to ask her what their plans are and that we may need to re-evaluate if they don't get it. It would be one thing if they were living cautiously, but they're flying around everywhere and living their best life. Are they going to come take care of our kids for two weeks if they give them covid? Doubtful.

So do it for others means do it so you can work and keep your kids in childcare?

Just explaining while letting our kids hang out with unvaccinated relatives is not necessarily a straightforward decision. Some of us don't have unlimited sick and annual leave (or have had to burn through it this past year). They are free to not get vaccinated, but we are free to avoid seeing them until our kids are. Thems the breaks.

Also - there is an actual risk of COVID transmission that could be serious for the kids or adults. Not worth it. We do not socialize indoors with anyone unvaccinated.

Have fun homeschooling in the fall!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on your situation... my husband would gladly forego family visits or other sorts of exposure, to the disappointment of everyone around him, just because he wants to wait for the Novavax vaccine ***which has just been delayed***. So I told him that life would go on as if he were vaccinated. Which isn't saying much in terms of added exposure, since we have young children that can't receive any vaccines yet. But I will invite the grandparents to stay with us, just like every summer, we will have outdoor gatherings with friends, and go to restaurants, etc...

I refuse to be taken hostage by reluctant adults dragging their feet.

Looks like I’m with your husband. I now know three people vaccinated with Pfizer in the hospital with blood clots. No history prior. Clots came on shortly (within a couple weeks after vaccination). Before this, everyone I know who’s had Covid either survived or barely had symptoms. No long covid with any of them.

So, JJ was paused for six instances of clots...but, you personally know three hospitalized with Pfizer clots. SURE JAN!!!!

But...but...its a conspiracy! Microsoft! 5G!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are having our first family gathering this weekend. 6 kids, none of whom have been vaccinated. And 10 adults, all of whom will be 100% vaccinated. The last person to get their 2nd shot is fully vaccinated as of tomorrow.

I'd use it as a way to pressure the holdouts. I'm not letting unvaccinated adults near my kids if I can help it. They won't be able to be vaccinated for 6 months or so.

What are you worried about? Unless your kids have an underlying health issue, kids are incredibly low risk for any serious effects of covid. The science is pretty definite on this point.

This isn’t my situation, but why should I as a parent put my kids at ANY risk because some adults are being boneheaded? I would gather outside.

Your kids are more at risk on the drive to the indoor, unmasked social event than they are at the actual event.

So few people have a rational analysis of risk, it's depressing.

[Anonymous]

Its our plan to hold out till all members are vaccinated or until covid is under control.