Discovery Player, Part Time Player, Dual Rostered Player, Academy Player, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:This depends on the club too. Some clubs only see these players as extra revenue and come next year adding additional revenue from outside will always take precedence over existing revenue from a lower team. Look at your club's record on moving players up before you accept one of these positions. If your club is a full service club from top to bottom maybe, but most of the local clubs that see themselves as destination clubs at the top of the pyramid are much better at moving players down their structure than up.

Do they really move down though? Do any cut kids that have been part of the team for any extended length? How many kids actually take a demotion ever?

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Anonymous wrote:This depends on the club too. Some clubs only see these players as extra revenue and come next year adding additional revenue from outside will always take precedence over existing revenue from a lower team. Look at your club's record on moving players up before you accept one of these positions. If your club is a full service club from top to bottom maybe, but most of the local clubs that see themselves as destination clubs at the top of the pyramid are much better at moving players down their structure than up.

Do they really move down though? Do any cut kids that have been part of the team for any extended length? How many kids actually take a demotion ever?

That depends on how big the roster was. If it was typical 16-18, they may cut a few. If it was bloated -- like 25+, there is more room to cut so they can replace with new and different bloat.

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Anonymous wrote:This depends on the club too. Some clubs only see these players as extra revenue and come next year adding additional revenue from outside will always take precedence over existing revenue from a lower team. Look at your club's record on moving players up before you accept one of these positions. If your club is a full service club from top to bottom maybe, but most of the local clubs that see themselves as destination clubs at the top of the pyramid are much better at moving players down their structure than up.

Definitely depends on the coach/club. McLean has DP players in many age groups on the girls' side and treats them as full time players. Credit goes to CW for that. The players stay with their original club, which needs them to keep performing well, and these players also get exposure to ECNL, more competitive play, etc., and also contribute to the McLean teams. It can work for both sides, if done right. McLean does it right. Arlington, not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:This depends on the club too. Some clubs only see these players as extra revenue and come next year adding additional revenue from outside will always take precedence over existing revenue from a lower team. Look at your club's record on moving players up before you accept one of these positions. If your club is a full service club from top to bottom maybe, but most of the local clubs that see themselves as destination clubs at the top of the pyramid are much better at moving players down their structure than up.

Definitely depends on the coach/club. McLean has DP players in many age groups on the girls' side and treats them as full time players. Credit goes to CW for that. The players stay with their original club, which needs them to keep performing well, and these players also get exposure to ECNL, more competitive play, etc., and also contribute to the McLean teams. It can work for both sides, if done right. McLean does it right. Arlington, not so much.

Arlington seems to do it right to me - but what would I know - I'm just an Arlington parent?

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Anonymous wrote:This depends on the club too. Some clubs only see these players as extra revenue and come next year adding additional revenue from outside will always take precedence over existing revenue from a lower team. Look at your club's record on moving players up before you accept one of these positions. If your club is a full service club from top to bottom maybe, but most of the local clubs that see themselves as destination clubs at the top of the pyramid are much better at moving players down their structure than up.

Definitely depends on the coach/club. McLean has DP players in many age groups on the girls' side and treats them as full time players. Credit goes to CW for that. The players stay with their original club, which needs them to keep performing well, and these players also get exposure to ECNL, more competitive play, etc., and also contribute to the McLean teams. It can work for both sides, if done right. McLean does it right. Arlington, not so much.

Arlington seems to do it right to me - but what would I know - I'm just an Arlington parent?

On the girls side Arlington has a certain type of girl they like. The girls who are different are kept around but really just get lost on the rosters. It is a shame because at other clubs they would start. Its hard to seeing talented girls waste away.

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This is crazy and it could be the product of the latest mess of leagues.

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Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

I think it makes sense in theory, but if the A team and the B team are playing in different leagues with different levels of player and different speeds of play, then that top B team player is never getting the experience they need to actually succeed on the A team... So more play which may build confidence and of course gives touches on the ball, but not fully beneficial if your goal is to be on the A team....

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

I think it makes sense in theory, but if the A team and the B team are playing in different leagues with different levels of player and different speeds of play, then that top B team player is never getting the experience they need to actually succeed on the A team... So more play which may build confidence and of course gives touches on the ball, but not fully beneficial if your goal is to be on the A team....

The thing is speed of play is something you can adjust to pretty quickly. If you are not getting in games or getting little playing time for a year or two your confidence suffers.

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

I think it makes sense in theory, but if the A team and the B team are playing in different leagues with different levels of player and different speeds of play, then that top B team player is never getting the experience they need to actually succeed on the A team... So more play which may build confidence and of course gives touches on the ball, but not fully beneficial if your goal is to be on the A team....

The thing is speed of play is something you can adjust to pretty quickly. If you are not getting in games or getting little playing time for a year or two your confidence suffers.

It is hard for a kid to sit the bench.

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A teams can be stressful places to be too. Especially in a club that cuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

I think it makes sense in theory, but if the A team and the B team are playing in different leagues with different levels of player and different speeds of play, then that top B team player is never getting the experience they need to actually succeed on the A team... So more play which may build confidence and of course gives touches on the ball, but not fully beneficial if your goal is to be on the A team....

The thing is speed of play is something you can adjust to pretty quickly. If you are not getting in games or getting little playing time for a year or two your confidence suffers.

It is hard for a kid to sit the bench.

I really don't understand why parents, especially with kids on the younger side, agree to sign them for that

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

I think it makes sense in theory, but if the A team and the B team are playing in different leagues with different levels of player and different speeds of play, then that top B team player is never getting the experience they need to actually succeed on the A team... So more play which may build confidence and of course gives touches on the ball, but not fully beneficial if your goal is to be on the A team....

The thing is speed of play is something you can adjust to pretty quickly. If you are not getting in games or getting little playing time for a year or two your confidence suffers.

It is hard for a kid to sit the bench.

I really don't understand why parents, especially with kids on the younger side, agree to sign them for that

I do! Parents love bragging that their kid is on top team. It’s like having the latest iPhone or cleats. Kid gets frustrated though but expectant maybe next year is his year.... Next year is here and he never gets quality play time or worse he gets cut.

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Anonymous wrote:Knowing that bottom 5 players of an A team and top 5 players of a B team are likely interchangeable, what’s the better option? I think playing time and not sitting the bench are really important to development.

I agree with this. And also for fun purposes. I’d rather play than sit on the bench and watch.

I think it makes sense in theory, but if the A team and the B team are playing in different leagues with different levels of player and different speeds of play, then that top B team player is never getting the experience they need to actually succeed on the A team... So more play which may build confidence and of course gives touches on the ball, but not fully beneficial if your goal is to be on the A team....

The thing is speed of play is something you can adjust to pretty quickly. If you are not getting in games or getting little playing time for a year or two your confidence suffers.

It is hard for a kid to sit the bench.

I really don't understand why parents, especially with kids on the younger side, agree to sign them for that

I do! Parents love bragging that their kid is on top team. It’s like having the latest iPhone or cleats. Kid gets frustrated though but expectant maybe next year is his year.... Next year is here and he never gets quality play time or worse he gets cut.

does that parent attend games. I would think that the kind of parent who brags about their kid's soccer team would be embarrassed when that kid doesn't play.