What to do with a humanities kid?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

[Anonymous]

this has to be a troll. Athletes aside, I wonder if if it would take more than one hand to count kids would could afford HYPS with just 20k in loans and turned them down for ASU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

If she decides to do an MFA (fiction, poetry, dramaturgy, art, etc.), these grad programs are cliquish and rely on excellent name dropping. They also have excellent performance/exhibition opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this has to be a troll. Athletes aside, I wonder if if it would take more than one hand to count kids would could afford HYPS with just 20k in loans and turned them down for ASU

Not a troll. Just a very debt-averse family with a complicated financial situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

If she decides to do an MFA (fiction, poetry, dramaturgy, art, etc.), these grad programs are cliquish and rely on excellent name dropping. They also have excellent performance/exhibition opportunities.

Thank you for the tip. She's open to an MFA in a creative writing field (cue starving artist jokes...)

[Anonymous]

Definitely the ivy

However, she’ll need spending money while she’s there so it’ll be more than 5k a year.

She’ll need to spend money to socialize in order to make the types of connections that make the whole endeavor worth it. This is a classic case of “you need to spend money to make money.” Don’t cheap out now, OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

If she decides to do an MFA (fiction, poetry, dramaturgy, art, etc.), these grad programs are cliquish and rely on excellent name dropping. They also have excellent performance/exhibition opportunities.

Thank you for the tip. She's open to an MFA in a creative writing field (cue starving artist jokes...)

At least most MFAs will pay you to attend. So no loans there. But soon after you are thrown into the workforce of jumping from one adjunct professor post to another, you will quickly need to make a decision to stick with the academic track or go to law school... sigh (not based on personal experience or anything!).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

It sounds like she's a strong student. I really wouldn't worry too much about the future, plenty of us are successful professionals even if we aren't making finance or big law money. For a strong student coming from an elite school, funding grad school isn't that hard-if the program wants her they will pay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this has to be a troll. Athletes aside, I wonder if if it would take more than one hand to count kids would could afford HYPS with just 20k in loans and turned them down for ASU

Not a troll. Just a very debt-averse family with a complicated financial situation.

I understand being adverse to debt, but for $20K total, this is worth it, in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

If she decides to do an MFA (fiction, poetry, dramaturgy, art, etc.), these grad programs are cliquish and rely on excellent name dropping. They also have excellent performance/exhibition opportunities.

Thank you for the tip. She's open to an MFA in a creative writing field (cue starving artist jokes...)

Many grad students are teaching assistants /graduate assistants / research assistants, whatever the case may be, which means their grad school tuition is covered, and they get a stipend for helping professors teach classes, teaching classes themsevles, or doing research.

[Anonymous]

No brainer, OP. As she progresses in her studies, she'll have a clearer idea of what she wants to do. Perhaps she'll change her mind about law school or academia. Regardless, the brand name of the Ivy will save her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No brainer, OP. As she progresses in her studies, she'll have a clearer idea of what she wants to do. Perhaps she'll change her mind about law school or academia. Regardless, the brand name of the Ivy will save her.

Isn't there a 9-page running thread about why this isn't true?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

If she decides to do an MFA (fiction, poetry, dramaturgy, art, etc.), these grad programs are cliquish and rely on excellent name dropping. They also have excellent performance/exhibition opportunities.

Thank you for the tip. She's open to an MFA in a creative writing field (cue starving artist jokes...)

At least most MFAs will pay you to attend. So no loans there. But soon after you are thrown into the workforce of jumping from one adjunct professor post to another, you will quickly need to make a decision to stick with the academic track or go to law school... sigh (not based on personal experience or anything!).

Doing well as an undergrad at HYPS makes HYPS for grad school a lot more doable and tenure track humanities positions draw heavily from top ranked programs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you paying full price except for the loans? If you're spending that money other than the loans, I'd ask her if she'd rather have it available for grad school than spend it now. I took out $20K 15 years ago so that doesn't seem like a huge issue to me, but I was also getting a ton of financial aid so the total calculation was different. I wouldn't turn her off a school she likes over that much in loans, though.

No, we received about 50% FA from the HYPS school. Even at $35k a year, it's a big stretch for us (I know most of DCUM can't relate). We won't be able to pay for her grad school if she goes to HYPS, but then again DD has absolutely no idea what type of grad school she'd like to go to.

Not sure if your DD is fine arts inclined but, if so, go with HYPS.

She isn't, but I'm curious what makes you say that.

If she decides to do an MFA (fiction, poetry, dramaturgy, art, etc.), these grad programs are cliquish and rely on excellent name dropping. They also have excellent performance/exhibition opportunities.

Thank you for the tip. She's open to an MFA in a creative writing field (cue starving artist jokes...)

The mythical tenure track for MFAs is just that! Very few positions open up for tenure track. The need for constant publishing, exhibitions and performances can be very stressful and lead to a long slog -- HYPS or not.

At least most MFAs will pay you to attend. So no loans there. But soon after you are thrown into the workforce of jumping from one adjunct professor post to another, you will quickly need to make a decision to stick with the academic track or go to law school... sigh (not based on personal experience or anything!).

Doing well as an undergrad at HYPS makes HYPS for grad school a lot more doable and tenure track humanities positions draw heavily from top ranked programs

[Anonymous]

it's mythical, but the humanities positions that do exist are going to people from Harvard and Yale not from random state research universities