Reopening Without Following CDC Guidelines?

[Anonymous]

You can come to my school which refuses to reopen in spite of the CDC guidelines. Want to switch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many schools disregarding CDC guidelines to allow for more IPL?

At least one DCPS is starting Term 4 without following CDC guidelines and requiring eating in classrooms (obviously unmasked) with only 3' distance and for longer than 15 minutes. DCPS has given schools the discretion to do this but also the discretion to follow CDC guidelines even if it means fewer students can return in-person.


I am aware of the arguments on both sides of the issue and understand that people feel strongly about whether this should be permitted or not or whether the CDC is credible or not and whether it's worth the risk or not. I am not interested in comments about whether you think this is a good or bad thing or in starting another thread debating the issue but am curious if other schools are doing the same. In all of the talk about this I have not yet seen a comment about any other school (public, private or charter) that is not following CDC guidelines so I wonder if this is a unique decision or if other schools are following suit.

I dunno, I'm a teacher who will have about 22 students on April 19th. I've already thought about lunch. Since we are all in the classroom we can break up the time when everyone is eating. 15- 20 minutes/group, maybe permanently moving the portable air filtration system into the center of the room, windows open. Lunch become a center in our math rotation. Everyone gets to eat between 11:30-12:30 and we never have the whole class unmasked at any given time.

Lol so glad I don’t teach at Lafayette and I’m not a gen ed teacher. That’s a very innovative idea though! As tedious as that is I like it. Glad you or admin thought of a way to minimize risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, can you give it a rest? Because the risk doesn't work for you and your family, you have to start yet ANOTHER thread about this? There is a totally viable virtual option with a dedicated virtual teacher not doing simulcast if this makes you uncomfortable. Literally HUNDREDS of Lafayette parents have signaled they are ok with the plan.

Like the teacher who posted above, the teachers and the principal will likely find workarounds. Your issue is that you have to commit before knowing what those workaround would be. We understand that's difficult. But it does work for the vast majority of families, and life is not fair.

Seriously, if you are crowdsourcing evidence to support your twisted opinion this is unsafe take it elsewhere and just stay virtual. You ruin this for us don’t ever expect another dinner invitation or play date from anyone. Do you want to be permanently labeled as the crazy mom who ruined IPL.

You would really punish elementary school children by ostracizing the family because of this?

Yep. This is that serious. Kids should know their parents are self absorbed jerks. There are so many kids that are literally melting down from DL, and this is the ticket out. Families that are not comfortable have an option that is being tailored to them. There is clearly a small and active group of parents who I'm sure are complaining to Dr Bs superiors and will ruin this for everyone. Were you on the parent huddle when this was announced? The one mom was clearly unhinged and unbelievably selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, can you give it a rest? Because the risk doesn't work for you and your family, you have to start yet ANOTHER thread about this? There is a totally viable virtual option with a dedicated virtual teacher not doing simulcast if this makes you uncomfortable. Literally HUNDREDS of Lafayette parents have signaled they are ok with the plan.

Like the teacher who posted above, the teachers and the principal will likely find workarounds. Your issue is that you have to commit before knowing what those workaround would be. We understand that's difficult. But it does work for the vast majority of families, and life is not fair.

Seriously, if you are crowdsourcing evidence to support your twisted opinion this is unsafe take it elsewhere and just stay virtual. You ruin this for us don’t ever expect another dinner invitation or play date from anyone. Do you want to be permanently labeled as the crazy mom who ruined IPL.

You would really punish elementary school children by ostracizing the family because of this?

Yep. This is that serious. Kids should know their parents are self absorbed jerks. There are so many kids that are literally melting down from DL, and this is the ticket out. Families that are not comfortable have an option that is being tailored to them. There is clearly a small and active group of parents who I'm sure are complaining to Dr Bs superiors and will ruin this for everyone. Were you on the parent huddle when this was announced? The one mom was clearly unhinged and unbelievably selfish.

So weird. When a teacher on this forum stated remembering how parents said disgusting things about teacher, people on this forum were OUTRAGED that the teacher would take that out on children because of their parents.

Yet, here we are with a parent flat out saying they would PUNISH a child because of their parents. We have strayed so far from what is right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, can you give it a rest? Because the risk doesn't work for you and your family, you have to start yet ANOTHER thread about this? There is a totally viable virtual option with a dedicated virtual teacher not doing simulcast if this makes you uncomfortable. Literally HUNDREDS of Lafayette parents have signaled they are ok with the plan.

Like the teacher who posted above, the teachers and the principal will likely find workarounds. Your issue is that you have to commit before knowing what those workaround would be. We understand that's difficult. But it does work for the vast majority of families, and life is not fair.

Seriously, if you are crowdsourcing evidence to support your twisted opinion this is unsafe take it elsewhere and just stay virtual. You ruin this for us don’t ever expect another dinner invitation or play date from anyone. Do you want to be permanently labeled as the crazy mom who ruined IPL.

You would really punish elementary school children by ostracizing the family because of this?

Welcome to the Lafayette way! These parents would rather attack one another rather than having a productive discussion. The OP never mentioned Lafayette yet Lafayette parents jump in to attack them and threaten their children with a lack of play dates. It was a pretty simple question that Lafayette parents derailed immediately. Sounds like Lafayette is the only school disregarding science if the immediate assumption is that the question relates to Lafayette and no one else has said that their school is doing the same. That’s the answer.

Millions of Americans are okay with letting the pandemic run out of control by not listening to the CDC. Just because “hundreds” of Lafayette parents have drunk the Trunp-era kook aid that we don’t need to take sensible measures allow schools to open safely don’t mean it’s safe or advisable. Dr. Fauci doesn’t think it is and he has more credibility than an anonymous message board full of wealthy white patents.

Never change, Lafayette! Always an amusing time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, can you give it a rest? Because the risk doesn't work for you and your family, you have to start yet ANOTHER thread about this? There is a totally viable virtual option with a dedicated virtual teacher not doing simulcast if this makes you uncomfortable. Literally HUNDREDS of Lafayette parents have signaled they are ok with the plan.

Like the teacher who posted above, the teachers and the principal will likely find workarounds. Your issue is that you have to commit before knowing what those workaround would be. We understand that's difficult. But it does work for the vast majority of families, and life is not fair.

Seriously, if you are crowdsourcing evidence to support your twisted opinion this is unsafe take it elsewhere and just stay virtual. You ruin this for us don’t ever expect another dinner invitation or play date from anyone. Do you want to be permanently labeled as the crazy mom who ruined IPL.

You would really punish elementary school children by ostracizing the family because of this?

Welcome to the Lafayette way! These parents would rather attack one another rather than having a productive discussion. The OP never mentioned Lafayette yet Lafayette parents jump in to attack them and threaten their children with a lack of play dates. It was a pretty simple question that Lafayette parents derailed immediately. Sounds like Lafayette is the only school disregarding science if the immediate assumption is that the question relates to Lafayette and no one else has said that their school is doing the same. That’s the answer.

Millions of Americans are okay with letting the pandemic run out of control by not listening to the CDC. Just because “hundreds” of Lafayette parents have drunk the Trunp-era kook aid that we don’t need to take sensible measures allow schools to open safely don’t mean it’s safe or advisable. Dr. Fauci doesn’t think it is and he has more credibility than an anonymous message board full of wealthy white patents.

Never change, Lafayette! Always an amusing time.

No, it’s that a small minority have drunk the “kook aid” and believe that nothing is safe, and you are hurting the kids who need to be back and whose families don’t share the same risk aversions you do. Stay virtual, problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, can you give it a rest? Because the risk doesn't work for you and your family, you have to start yet ANOTHER thread about this? There is a totally viable virtual option with a dedicated virtual teacher not doing simulcast if this makes you uncomfortable. Literally HUNDREDS of Lafayette parents have signaled they are ok with the plan.

Like the teacher who posted above, the teachers and the principal will likely find workarounds. Your issue is that you have to commit before knowing what those workaround would be. We understand that's difficult. But it does work for the vast majority of families, and life is not fair.

Seriously, if you are crowdsourcing evidence to support your twisted opinion this is unsafe take it elsewhere and just stay virtual. You ruin this for us don’t ever expect another dinner invitation or play date from anyone. Do you want to be permanently labeled as the crazy mom who ruined IPL.

You would really punish elementary school children by ostracizing the family because of this?

Yep. This is that serious. Kids should know their parents are self absorbed jerks. There are so many kids that are literally melting down from DL, and this is the ticket out. Families that are not comfortable have an option that is being tailored to them. There is clearly a small and active group of parents who I'm sure are complaining to Dr Bs superiors and will ruin this for everyone. Were you on the parent huddle when this was announced? The one mom was clearly unhinged and unbelievably selfish.

A small group of parents won’t ruin anything for anyone. The plans are in place. Calm down. Science is out, school is in. You are getting what you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many schools disregarding CDC guidelines to allow for more IPL?

At least one DCPS is starting Term 4 without following CDC guidelines and requiring eating in classrooms (obviously unmasked) with only 3' distance and for longer than 15 minutes. DCPS has given schools the discretion to do this but also the discretion to follow CDC guidelines even if it means fewer students can return in-person.


I am aware of the arguments on both sides of the issue and understand that people feel strongly about whether this should be permitted or not or whether the CDC is credible or not and whether it's worth the risk or not. I am not interested in comments about whether you think this is a good or bad thing or in starting another thread debating the issue but am curious if other schools are doing the same. In all of the talk about this I have not yet seen a comment about any other school (public, private or charter) that is not following CDC guidelines so I wonder if this is a unique decision or if other schools are following suit.

CDC makes zero sense. In every other situation they say 6 feet. There are studies saying even 6 feet isn't enough. Kids aren't vaccinated and yet, its safe to remove the rules or 3 feet for schools, but for other situations they say 6 feet. This is why its a s#it show and covid continues.

[Anonymous]

Every single study has come back saying kids don’t spread COVID in schools more than they would in whatever alternative arrangements they would be in, and rates in schools are lower than in equivalent populations. The only intervention that actually seems to matter re: rates is the *teacher* being masked and that largely on affects transmission rates between teachers. It is time to go back using whatever precautions we can, but not holding everything hostage over those we can’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every single study has come back saying kids don’t spread COVID in schools more than they would in whatever alternative arrangements they would be in, and rates in schools are lower than in equivalent populations. The only intervention that actually seems to matter re: rates is the *teacher* being masked and that largely on affects transmission rates between teachers. It is time to go back using whatever precautions we can, but not holding everything hostage over those we can’t.

Amen to this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can come to my school which refuses to reopen in spite of the CDC guidelines. Want to switch?

I’m sorry your school isn’t opening at all. I don’t know why DCPS is allowing such wide discretion instead of coming up with evidence-based opening guidelines for all schools. It’s clearly possible for schools to open safely under those guidelines and all schools should be able to open safely, including yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every single study has come back saying kids don’t spread COVID in schools more than they would in whatever alternative arrangements they would be in, and rates in schools are lower than in equivalent populations. The only intervention that actually seems to matter re: rates is the *teacher* being masked and that largely on affects transmission rates between teachers. It is time to go back using whatever precautions we can, but not holding everything hostage over those we can’t.

You can be in favor of this plan but you are incorrect about the studies. Misinformation does no one any favors.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-michigan-cases-spike-kids/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every single study has come back saying kids don’t spread COVID in schools more than they would in whatever alternative arrangements they would be in, and rates in schools are lower than in equivalent populations. The only intervention that actually seems to matter re: rates is the *teacher* being masked and that largely on affects transmission rates between teachers. It is time to go back using whatever precautions we can, but not holding everything hostage over those we can’t.

You can be in favor of this plan but you are incorrect about the studies. Misinformation does no one any favors.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-michigan-cases-spike-kids/

This article you linked notes the following:

"....much of the rise in pediatric cases can be linked to the reopening of schools and youth sports." No youth sports are reopening that includes contact.

"....social gatherings after youth sporting events are also contributing to the spread. " Also not relevant to the DCPS reopening because no said sponsored events.

"If everyone is removing their mask and going out to dinner to celebrate a big win then all of those precautions go out the door," she said. "So really, this seems to have driven this surge." No comment, this one speaks for itself.

I'm done now, the rest of the article talks mostly about sports and then the effects of COVID. Maybe try harder next time?

[Anonymous]

The DL, its never safe crowd is crazy.

We are at a charter and DC has been doing hybrid for over a month now. Kids eating lunch in the classroom and are not 6 ft apart. It’s fine as long as you have good ventilation/HVAC system.

We have not had any cases in our class and no quarantine tine.

I bet you the private kids aren’t eating 6 ft apart either.

School are not a big source of vector. It’s the adults that are bringing Covid into the school from the community. Millions and millions of kids have been in school since the fall and are doing fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DL, its never safe crowd is crazy.

We are at a charter and DC has been doing hybrid for over a month now. Kids eating lunch in the classroom and are not 6 ft apart. It’s fine as long as you have good ventilation/HVAC system.

We have not had any cases in our class and no quarantine tine.

I bet you the private kids aren’t eating 6 ft apart either.

School are not a big source of vector. It’s the adults that are bringing Covid into the school from the community. Millions and millions of kids have been in school since the fall and are doing fine.

Correct! Not all privates are 6ft. Our private is 4ft now to accommodate full reopen 4 days a week. Yes, even privates aren’t 5x days a week, and I’m okay with that.