Hidden Gems

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

Seriously take a break. Go for a walk. It's ok. Log off. The internet will still be there. You have a life outside of this. Try to connect back with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The old beloved Principal of Cap City (Irving Street Location) started a new charter - I Dream Academy

If I had kids the were the right age, I would commute far to be at a school that she was leading:
https://www.idreampcs.org/

They had the misfortune of having last year be their 1st year - I am hoping they get traction as she is an inspiring leader.

this looks lovely. it’s good to see Ward 8 getting the chance to have an expeditionary/montessori inspired charter similar to those in other wards, instead of being limited to no-exuses models (KIPP) or tech dominant (Rocketship).

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

feel free to summarize the pod cast. the description makes clear that the concept of “hidden gem” is wrong, and the post here was intended to criticize Jeff’s sincere attempt to broaden the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

That is pretty much what the description says. Screw this whole conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whittier
Sela
Dorothy Haight

Sela is in the 145 Charter cluster.

What does that mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whittier
Sela
Dorothy Haight

Sela is in the 145 Charter cluster.

What does that mean?

It means suggesting it as a "hidden gem" is explicitly decried by the OP. He said "don't list schools in these clusters" and gave a link and direction to the page cite. Then the second reply ignores the request parameters and suggests a school that gets mentioned on here all the time.

[Anonymous]

I agree. I think the concept of "hidden gem," is weird among people seeking equity in schools. Its like someone is bargain shopping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

feel free to summarize the pod cast. the description makes clear that the concept of “hidden gem” is wrong, and the post here was intended to criticize Jeff’s sincere attempt to broaden the discussion.

Seriously people, where is your reading comprehension??? The summary does not say white parents shouldn't enroll or that doing so is racist. Only that problems CAN (not will) develop, presumably IF white parents act a certain way. Particularly if they are JUST looking for a hidden gem, i.e. without self-awareness or consideration of the greater context and other's viewpoints. Sounds reasonable to me and may be a beneficial message for some of the more defensive posters in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

feel free to summarize the pod cast. the description makes clear that the concept of “hidden gem” is wrong, and the post here was intended to criticize Jeff’s sincere attempt to broaden the discussion.

Seriously people, where is your reading comprehension??? The summary does not say white parents shouldn't enroll or that doing so is racist. Only that problems CAN (not will) develop, presumably IF white parents act a certain way. Particularly if they are JUST looking for a hidden gem, i.e. without self-awareness or consideration of the greater context and other's viewpoints. Sounds reasonable to me and may be a beneficial message for some of the more defensive posters in this thread.

'We're not saying for sure that if you do this you're resource hoarding and being a colonizer, just, you know, if you mess it up! And luckily, since there are clear, widely-agreed up guidelines we can provide, and that aren't selectively-enforced, and that don't change day-to-day and year-to-year, and aren't the kind of thing people routinely weaponize against those they don't like, that's not something you even need to worry about! Just have some self-awareness and you'll be totally good!'

Cool. Cool cool. Yeah, that sounds great. Not ominous at all. Can't imagine why anyone would get defensive.

[Anonymous]

maybe if people go into a hidden gem with their head down to learn and list vs. coming in that they know how to do it; they know how all families live or should live; that they are the expert on an area they have never been a part of until their child was there. then people won't think you are a colonizer or a bigot or a racist.

and maybe if you go in you think - hmmmmmm i can learn something from "those people" and not be there to save them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

feel free to summarize the pod cast. the description makes clear that the concept of “hidden gem” is wrong, and the post here was intended to criticize Jeff’s sincere attempt to broaden the discussion.

Seriously people, where is your reading comprehension??? The summary does not say white parents shouldn't enroll or that doing so is racist. Only that problems CAN (not will) develop, presumably IF white parents act a certain way. Particularly if they are JUST looking for a hidden gem, i.e. without self-awareness or consideration of the greater context and other's viewpoints. Sounds reasonable to me and may be a beneficial message for some of the more defensive posters in this thread.

'We're not saying for sure that if you do this you're resource hoarding and being a colonizer, just, you know, if you mess it up! And luckily, since there are clear, widely-agreed up guidelines we can provide, and that aren't selectively-enforced, and that don't change day-to-day and year-to-year, and aren't the kind of thing people routinely weaponize against those they don't like, that's not something you even need to worry about! Just have some self-awareness and you'll be totally good!'

Cool. Cool cool. Yeah, that sounds great. Not ominous at all. Can't imagine why anyone would get defensive.

I can imagine why someone who feels defensive about their behavior or their ideas would get defensive about it. I can't imagine why an average person with good intent who has not even listened to the thing that is linked to would have their back so far up about it.

[Anonymous]

If there are already Black people going there, who is the gem hidden from, exactly?

The whole logic is that it only matters when white people know about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

feel free to summarize the pod cast. the description makes clear that the concept of “hidden gem” is wrong, and the post here was intended to criticize Jeff’s sincere attempt to broaden the discussion.

Seriously people, where is your reading comprehension??? The summary does not say white parents shouldn't enroll or that doing so is racist. Only that problems CAN (not will) develop, presumably IF white parents act a certain way. Particularly if they are JUST looking for a hidden gem, i.e. without self-awareness or consideration of the greater context and other's viewpoints. Sounds reasonable to me and may be a beneficial message for some of the more defensive posters in this thread.

'We're not saying for sure that if you do this you're resource hoarding and being a colonizer, just, you know, if you mess it up! And luckily, since there are clear, widely-agreed up guidelines we can provide, and that aren't selectively-enforced, and that don't change day-to-day and year-to-year, and aren't the kind of thing people routinely weaponize against those they don't like, that's not something you even need to worry about! Just have some self-awareness and you'll be totally good!'

Cool. Cool cool. Yeah, that sounds great. Not ominous at all. Can't imagine why anyone would get defensive.

I can imagine why someone who feels defensive about their behavior or their ideas would get defensive about it. I can't imagine why an average person with good intent who has not even listened to the thing that is linked to would have their back so far up about it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, the concept of "hidden gems" is the topic of an entire episode of the Integrated Schools podcast. I commend it to you (and others here):

https://integratedschools.org/podcast/ep-6-the-hidden-gem/

Here is a summary of the episode:

There are lots of great schools without many white kids, however, when white parents start to integrate a global majority school because they think they’ve found a hidden gem, it can lead in some troubling directions. Anna from LA (you may remember her from Ep 1) joins us to discuss the problems that arise when we come to integration just looking for a hidden gem. We touch on the narrative around what makes a “good” school, and we discuss how the Hidden Gem story encourages resource hoarding and can pave the way for colonizing.

I thought the earlier poster was exaggerating, but I guess not. So, I'm out. Clearly nothing I do will ever be right.

That's not what that description says. It's also not what the podcast says. I really urge you to consider how high your defenses are set up, if this description itself sounds like it's blaming you for something.

feel free to summarize the pod cast. the description makes clear that the concept of “hidden gem” is wrong, and the post here was intended to criticize Jeff’s sincere attempt to broaden the discussion.

Seriously people, where is your reading comprehension??? The summary does not say white parents shouldn't enroll or that doing so is racist. Only that problems CAN (not will) develop, presumably IF white parents act a certain way. Particularly if they are JUST looking for a hidden gem, i.e. without self-awareness or consideration of the greater context and other's viewpoints. Sounds reasonable to me and may be a beneficial message for some of the more defensive posters in this thread.

'We're not saying for sure that if you do this you're resource hoarding and being a colonizer, just, you know, if you mess it up! And luckily, since there are clear, widely-agreed up guidelines we can provide, and that aren't selectively-enforced, and that don't change day-to-day and year-to-year, and aren't the kind of thing people routinely weaponize against those they don't like, that's not something you even need to worry about! Just have some self-awareness and you'll be totally good!'

Cool. Cool cool. Yeah, that sounds great. Not ominous at all. Can't imagine why anyone would get defensive.

I can imagine why someone who feels defensive about their behavior or their ideas would get defensive about it. I can't imagine why an average person with good intent who has not even listened to the thing that is linked to would have their back so far up about it.

The Deputy Mayor for Education sends his kids to a $41,380/year private school. This is, apparently, not newsworthy. There's no Washington Post article on that. There's no Brookings piece on where our educational leaders send their kids to school, either in a normal year or in a year when our public schools are largely closed. Or heck, where people doing the kind of educational research that filters down as received wisdom send their kids. But those of us who live outside of upper NW, who don't go to private school, and who are trying to figure out how to get the needs of our kids met in a city where many schools are by any reasonable metric failing their students -- oh, there's plenty to say about us! Jeff tries to broaden the conversation to more than the set of schools which the report found were talked about, and someone immediately posts a link to something that mentions resource hoarding and colonization. Gosh, such good intent.