Out of State Community College

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you aware there is a 366 day residency requirement before you can attend a community college? Here's a quote: A person must have lived continuously in California for at least one year immediately preceding the residence determination date to be considered a resident for tuition purposes. Evidence must also be provided to indicate that the person has intent to make California his/her permanent home."

The same residency requirement goes for the Cal STate system as well: "Physical Presence: A student must be physically present in California ONE YEAR PRIOR to the Residence Determination Date (in which enrollment is contemplated). Intent: A student must intend to remain in California ONE YEAR PRIOR to the Residence Determination Date."

It is almost impossible for out of state 18-22 year olds to establish residency for college tuition purposes in California. You can’t just move to CA as an 18 year old in the summer for your freshman year and expect to get in state tuition for you sophomore year. Don’t expect it any year. Only if you get married or were in the armed service or were in foster care.

Especially when parents are paying the bills.

But attending CC without in state residency is still very cheap compared to a 4-year institution. She can still attend CC, she will just need to pay more than what in state kids pay to attend. I think this is a great idea. I lived in California and even though I was admitted to several good 4 year schools, I decided to save $ and attend CC first. After two years supporting myself while attending night classes at CC I started at UC Berkeley. Then attended a UC law school. I'm not an unusual story in CA. And many of my classmates at CC were from out of state-- even from out of US. My best friend had moved to CA from Sweden and we both ended up at a UC school after CC. She paid more at CC than I did, but she still felt it was worth it.

I'm also from CA but I have a different thought on that. I also have friends that started at CC and transferred to UC or Cal States. Most of them were either very motivated and dedicated, OR took much longer than 2 years to transfer.
However, it doesn't sound like OP thinks her daughter is very motivated. It's really easy to get "stuck" in community college.

[Anonymous]

OP, her living in a safe place is paramount. And having a minimal safety net. You're on the right track with your thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here- Thank you for the input. The community college route is sounding more and more promising as an option.

As a parent, I really want DD to start in some form of college so there is some structure and a way to meet people when she moves to LA. I also don't want her to eliminate options at 18- I know community college and possibly transferring later isn't the traditional experience, but I feel like it would be better than not going to school at all. I worry if she takes a break from school, it will be harder to go back later.

I'm going to think about the gap year/expiration date option, too.

Thank you!

But do you understand she must do the 366 residency requirement before she can even attend? Those schools and the Cal State system are for Californians first.

[Anonymous]

What about Woodbury University in Burbank? Or Whittier college? It is just so easy to drop out of community college; living on a college campus might help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here- Thank you for the input. The community college route is sounding more and more promising as an option.

As a parent, I really want DD to start in some form of college so there is some structure and a way to meet people when she moves to LA. I also don't want her to eliminate options at 18- I know community college and possibly transferring later isn't the traditional experience, but I feel like it would be better than not going to school at all. I worry if she takes a break from school, it will be harder to go back later.

I'm going to think about the gap year/expiration date option, too.

Thank you!

But do you understand she must do the 366 residency requirement before she can even attend? Those schools and the Cal State system are for Californians first.

That’s not how I read the policy above (which is Similar to other state public schools). It’s talking about residency for tuition purposes. They’d love to take out of state students and charge them out of state tuition.

[Anonymous]

There are some community colleges that have dorms. Would that be an option>

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here- Thank you for the input. The community college route is sounding more and more promising as an option.

As a parent, I really want DD to start in some form of college so there is some structure and a way to meet people when she moves to LA. I also don't want her to eliminate options at 18- I know community college and possibly transferring later isn't the traditional experience, but I feel like it would be better than not going to school at all. I worry if she takes a break from school, it will be harder to go back later.

I'm going to think about the gap year/expiration date option, too.

Thank you!

Encourage your daughter to do lots of research on the film industry. LA isn't the film hub it used to be; many, many productions (major studios like Marvel, Disney, Netflix, etc) operate out of Atlanta. Has your daughter thought about studying film or TV production? She should look at programs that give her that experience; she might find it engaging and motivating for her studies. Some community colleges (even MC) have TV production programs. That could be a good way for her to learn a skill, and get the experience she will need to break into the industry. Most production assistants tend to be older than you would think--simply because it takes so long to build skills and make connections that will get you hired.

Wishing you and her good luck and success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here- Thank you for the input. The community college route is sounding more and more promising as an option.

As a parent, I really want DD to start in some form of college so there is some structure and a way to meet people when she moves to LA. I also don't want her to eliminate options at 18- I know community college and possibly transferring later isn't the traditional experience, but I feel like it would be better than not going to school at all. I worry if she takes a break from school, it will be harder to go back later.

I'm going to think about the gap year/expiration date option, too.

Thank you!

But do you understand she must do the 366 residency requirement before she can even attend? Those schools and the Cal State system are for Californians first.

That’s not how I read the policy above (which is Similar to other state public schools). It’s talking about residency for tuition purposes. They’d love to take out of state students and charge them out of state tuition.

Please call the community college in question. Everything related to college is in upheaval this year. The legislature could also change rules at any moment and tighten the rules to give the most advantage to California students, as has already happened in the U.C. system.

"To attend any of the Los Angeles Community Colleges as a resident of California, a student is required to have been a California resident for more than one year immediately preceding the Residence Determination Date. The Residence Determination Date is that day immediately preceding the opening day of instruction of the semester session. Residence is defined as a union of act and intent.

DISTRICT RESIDENCE REQUIREMENTS
At the time of application each student is required to file a Statement of Residence to ascertain the college district jurisdiction in order to comply with the requirements of the law. The information given by each student is subject to certification, and any falsification can result in immediate cancellation of registration and exclusion from the College."

[Anonymous]

Dude, whatever you just pasted doesn’t talk about an out of stater ATTENDING the CC. It talks about establishing residency for TUITION purposes. A+ attention to detail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some community colleges that have dorms. Would that be an option>

Orange Coast College (in Orange county) says on their website that they are the "first and only only community college in Southern California offering on campus student housing."

So if that's something your daughter would like, OP, it looks like OCC is what she should look at.

http://www.orangecoastcollege.edu/student_services/gec/Pages/Housing-and-Homestay.aspx

[Anonymous]

Ugh. Every other kid in DCUMland wants to go into acting and musical theater. If that’s their passion, have the go local and do community theater or some of these acting schools. It’s like saying my kid wants to be an astronaut and just setting up a tent outside of NASA...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dude, whatever you just pasted doesn’t talk about an out of stater ATTENDING the CC. It talks about establishing residency for TUITION purposes. A+ attention to detail.

Dude, that's why I said call the community college in question. They all have different rules. Mine won't let in OOS until the year has past and intent to stay in state has been signed. Why? Sudden rush of students who can't find jobs. Colleges are swamped with applicationis.