UMASS Amherst Suspending and Evicting Students for Parties and Mask Violations.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Utterly gross. If they think students in close proximity is a health risk, why are they having in-person classes?

30+ students in a tightly packed classroom with 1970s ventilation is far worse than outdoor parties.

But which one is more important?

Irrelevant. Virus doesn't spread by human's understanding of importance

OK then close the grocery stores then.

Oh, wait, you mean something IS more important?

Dumbass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parties outside is much safer than indoor classrooms, by multiple magnitudes.

You have obviously never been to a party, particularly a college one.

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Williams students had an indoor party on campus. Pretty dumb move for some pretty smart kids.

https://www.berkshireeagle.com/coronavirus/120-williams-students-leaving-campus-after-indoor-party/article_17527414-7df3-11eb-9f33-33e7d4bf5ca4.html

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Anonymous wrote:Glad my kid won't have to deal with anything like that at Alabama this fall. I know he is, too. All year they've been packing the student section at Bryant-Denny, going to parties and restaurants, even flooding the streets of Tuscaloosa after the football team won its sixth national championship of the Saban era. No suspensions, no evictions from on-campus housing, no strongly worded letters from the Dean, and most importantly, NO MAJOR COVID OUTBREAKS resulting from anything I just named. If schools like UMass elect to keep ruling with an iron fist and denying 18-22 year olds a real college experience, expect to see more students from the Acela corridor fleeing for the greener pastures of the SEC. Roll Tide!

Hey roll tider!

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Anonymous wrote:Glad my kid won't have to deal with anything like that at Alabama this fall. I know he is, too. All year they've been packing the student section at Bryant-Denny, going to parties and restaurants, even flooding the streets of Tuscaloosa after the football team won its sixth national championship of the Saban era. No suspensions, no evictions from on-campus housing, no strongly worded letters from the Dean, and most importantly, NO MAJOR COVID OUTBREAKS resulting from anything I just named. If schools like UMass elect to keep ruling with an iron fist and denying 18-22 year olds a real college experience, expect to see more students from the Acela corridor fleeing for the greener pastures of the SEC. Roll Tide!

Don’t forget “nearly full ride scholarship”!

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I was very immature in college and would likely have been at the party. The teenage brain takes a long time to develop- makes me sad that college kids in general have to deal with this.

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I was very immature in college and would likely have been at the party. The teenage brain takes a long time to develop- makes me sad that college kids in general have to deal with this.

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Anonymous wrote:I was very immature in college and would likely have been at the party. The teenage brain takes a long time to develop- makes me sad that college kids in general have to deal with this.

It blows nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This email just came out.

Dear Student,

Sadly, it has happened again—a group of students flagrantly flouted the rules over the weekend. It has become clear that a relatively small but highly visible subsection of the student population in the Amherst area feels entitled to break the agreed-upon policies and rules so they can party, with no regard for the health and safety of their peers. This selfish and disrespectful attitude contributes to the spread of the virus and puts all of us at risk. To that end, I feel it is important to update you on actions being taken by the university.

What Occurred: On Saturday afternoon, the Amherst Police Department was called by local residents to disperse a crowd of about 200 students who had gathered in violation of university policy, town expectations, and state public health mandates. The crowd of mostly unmasked individuals was dispersed and citations were issued to the hosts.

What Happens Next: Those students identified as being involved—hosting or attending—will be issued an interim suspension. If a student also lives on campus, they will face the additional consequence of an interim housing restriction (which requires moving out of the halls) as they pose an immediate health risk to other residents.

Our Student Conduct & Community Standards staff has received nearly 1000 referrals since the beginning of the year; the vast majority of these are violations of the Interim Pandemic Policy. Due to the risks inherent in unregulated social gatherings and because students have been notified on numerous occasions of the expectations—this behavior is clearly an egregious violation of university policy and swift action is essential. We will continue to adjudicate future cases in this manner, and we will expedite the most blatant violations, such as those that occurred this weekend.

All students involved will have their appropriate due process, but under no circumstances will they continue as a university student in the interim. The actions of these haughty few are not representative of the larger student population who consistently demonstrate their commitment to public safety. This incident (and others like it) will be dealt with swiftly and effectively so those of you abiding by the rules can enjoy more university privileges.

I regret this is where we have arrived, but the university must act to support the needs and wants of the greater student body and the larger community. Thank you to those that have diligently followed the rules—I want you to feel seen and appreciated. I hope the good actors of the student body understand this approach as a supportive effort for a successful semester ahead.

Sincerely,

Brandi Hephner LaBanc

I'm the parent of one of those respectful, obedient college students who always practices social distancing, wears a mask, stays within a safe social pod.

Yet, I think this is ridiculous. These kids are acting like KIDS. They are still children, even though they are legally adults. They are doing what comes naturally to them, which is to socialize and play.

Yes, they should be disciplined. But to kick them out of school for attending a party? No, that's too much.

My kid is great, and I'm so proud of that, but others aren't so self-disciplined, and I think that's not great, but shouldn't be treated so harshly. '

Covid makes everyone act irrationally. There should be consequences for these kids, but also, there should be alternate things for them to do so they don't attend parties. The university should take it upon itself to find ways for kids to socialize safely, and not rely on self-discipline and fear of consequences for breaking the rules to keep kids from going to parties.

Kids will break rules. It's part of their job description. Make them do service hours or something like that, but don't kick them out of dorms and school for acting like kids and trying to having fun. Just don't.

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Jeez, this isn't just "breaking the rules". These kids did not just violate normal residential life codes; they engaged in activity that has proved to spread a potentially deadly disease. If they had "service hours" or some other benign thing as a punishment (so ridiculous) they would ALL HAVE PARTIES and spread the virus. The punishment has to be sufficient to prohibit the activity that makes the entire campus less safe.

Do you people not really see that difference?

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Anonymous wrote:Glad my kid won't have to deal with anything like that at Alabama this fall. I know he is, too. All year they've been packing the student section at Bryant-Denny, going to parties and restaurants, even flooding the streets of Tuscaloosa after the football team won its sixth national championship of the Saban era. No suspensions, no evictions from on-campus housing, no strongly worded letters from the Dean, and most importantly, NO MAJOR COVID OUTBREAKS resulting from anything I just named. If schools like UMass elect to keep ruling with an iron fist and denying 18-22 year olds a real college experience, expect to see more students from the Acela corridor fleeing for the greener pastures of the SEC. Roll Tide!

No, I highly doubt that. I think at most they’ll want to take a gap year. Kids who are attracted to the intellectual milieu and robust cultural opportunity college experience available in an eastern college town or bustling city aren’t likely going to be attracted to that Deep South thing y’all got going at one note football dominated institutions. You’ll very likely get all the partying obsessed binge drinkers - they’ll fit right in with the average student body already there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parties outside is much safer than indoor classrooms, by multiple magnitudes.

You have obviously never been to a party, particularly a college one.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Glad my kid won't have to deal with anything like that at Alabama this fall. I know he is, too. All year they've been packing the student section at Bryant-Denny, going to parties and restaurants, even flooding the streets of Tuscaloosa after the football team won its sixth national championship of the Saban era. No suspensions, no evictions from on-campus housing, no strongly worded letters from the Dean, and most importantly, NO MAJOR COVID OUTBREAKS resulting from anything I just named. If schools like UMass elect to keep ruling with an iron fist and denying 18-22 year olds a real college experience, expect to see more students from the Acela corridor fleeing for the greener pastures of the SEC. Roll Tide!

LOL - "no major outbreaks."

Not only did they have major outbreaks, they got dragged for trying to keep them secret.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/another-800-infected-with-covid-19-at-university-of-alabama

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly gross. If they think students in close proximity is a health risk, why are they having in-person classes?

30+ students in a tightly packed classroom with 1970s ventilation is far worse than outdoor parties.

But which one is more important?

Irrelevant. Virus doesn't spread by human's understanding of importance

OK then close the grocery stores then.

Oh, wait, you mean something IS more important?

Dumbass.

Moron, are people packed within 1 feet of each other in poorly ventilated, cramped classrooms at grocery stores?

And capacity at grocery stores was reduced during COVID. Moron.

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Anonymous wrote:Jeez, this isn't just "breaking the rules". These kids did not just violate normal residential life codes; they engaged in activity that has proved to spread a potentially deadly disease. If they had "service hours" or some other benign thing as a punishment (so ridiculous) they would ALL HAVE PARTIES and spread the virus. The punishment has to be sufficient to prohibit the activity that makes the entire campus less safe.

Do you people not really see that difference?

Why the hell do they have students on campus at all then, if interaction is so utterly dangerous?