Colleges that transform undergrads into great writers?

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slac with A STRUCTURED curriculum that will make sure he takes writing intensive courses.

Hamilton is a great school, but I think their curriculum is very unstructured.

Franklin & Marshall might be good for your child.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


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Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?
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SLACs, Ivy, Berkeley, Michigan, Chicago, UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?

Yes, obviously. Legal writing is not that hard, IMO. You're quoting a lot of case law and rules to prove your argument.
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Some colleges have writing requirements for graduation, as in you cannot graduate without earning your writing credential, including requirements for basic writing and writing specific to your major and degree. Your writing portfolio is reviewed by a panel of professors across disciplines in your senior year. If it is rejected, you have remediate it in the summer to get your degree. Look for something like that in the schools your child is interested in attending.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?

Yes, obviously. Legal writing is not that hard, IMO. You're quoting a lot of case law and rules to prove your argument.


You're obviously not a lawyer. If you were, you'd know that persuasive legal writing involves much more than that. And, at times, much less than that.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?

Yes, obviously. Legal writing is not that hard, IMO. You're quoting a lot of case law and rules to prove your argument.


You're obviously not a lawyer. If you were, you'd know that persuasive legal writing involves much more than that. And, at times, much less than that.

Lol. I am a lawyer.
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What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.



OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.



Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.



No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.



Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.


LOL! Law school has turned many a fine writer into a terrible writer.

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Anonymous wrote:slac with A STRUCTURED curriculum that will make sure he takes writing intensive courses.

Hamilton is a great school, but I think their curriculum is very unstructured.

Franklin & Marshall might be good for your child.


I went to a SLAC with an unstructured curriculum and every single class had a heavy/strong writing component. This was purposeful.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?

Yes, obviously. Legal writing is not that hard, IMO. You're quoting a lot of case law and rules to prove your argument.


You're obviously not a lawyer. If you were, you'd know that persuasive legal writing involves much more than that. And, at times, much less than that.

Lol. I am a lawyer.


Well, ok, then. How often have you seen a brief and thought "wow, this guy/woman really can't write?" I'll bet you've thought that many, many times. Because I sure have. And if so many lawyers can't write a good legal brief, then by definition it's not easy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?

Yes, obviously. Legal writing is not that hard, IMO. You're quoting a lot of case law and rules to prove your argument.


the only undergraduate class that really helped me in this regard was symbolic logic because it made me thing about the structure of arguments. Law schools have writing classes and legal writing really doesn't have too much in common with writing for a history or philosophy class. I think if you wrote a history paper in the same format as a legal memo you'd probably get an F
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What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.



OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.



Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.



No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.



Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.


LOL! Law school has turned many a fine writer into a terrible writer.



I don't disagree. But you've proven my point that being a good writer doesn't necessarily translate into being a good legal writer. Two different skill sets.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by great writer? A novelist, or just someone who is able to write a grammatically correct email, Power Point presentation, or business plan? IMO, the best way to become a good writer is to read a lot.


OP here

Yes, fair question.....

DC, a HS junior, wants to pursue a career in law or business. So in that sense.


Such a silly question for someone interested in law or business. If you want to pursue a career in law, get top grades in a good school and score well on the LSAT while majoring in whatever you want. If writing is a big deal to you, major in English or philosophy. If you want a career in business, go to a school with a good B-school.


No, not a silly question. Being a good writer as an attorney is a must. Being a great writer as an attorney puts you head and shoulders above. Anything that puts you in that second category is a HUGE plus.

And being a great writer in business, coupled with very good quantitative skills, makes you stratospheric.


Being a good LEGAL writer is a must. There are plenty of generically good writers who can't write like lawyers to save their lives. You need to understand the difference.



The question is can being a good writer helps you to be a good legal writer?

Yes, obviously. Legal writing is not that hard, IMO. You're quoting a lot of case law and rules to prove your argument.


You're obviously not a lawyer. If you were, you'd know that persuasive legal writing involves much more than that. And, at times, much less than that.

Lol. I am a lawyer.


Well, ok, then. How often have you seen a brief and thought "wow, this guy/woman really can't write?" I'll bet you've thought that many, many times. Because I sure have. And if so many lawyers can't write a good legal brief, then by definition it's not easy.


my first thought is usually a dozen people probably wrote and edited this thing and then some poor sap had to merge it together hours before filing
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