WTU press release: teachers to vote by secret ballot to authorize strike

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

The discipline should be that anyone who participates in a strike does not get credit for this year towards retirement/seniority/cost of living adjustments/etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

It’s not just the WTU. There is a no strike clause in every union contract in DC. it’s against the law for any union to strike in DC.

Cool. That doesn't change the point.

I don’t care how many press releases there are. The union is not going to vote for a strike.

Why do you think that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so goofy at this point that WTU keeps trying to threaten an illegal strike.

They can though and will if they keep seeing posts like these.

OOOooOoOoo SCAAARY.

Are you striking now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so goofy at this point that WTU keeps trying to threaten an illegal strike.

They can though and will if they keep seeing posts like these.

OOOooOoOoo SCAAARY.

Are you striking now?

I love it. They're threatening us by suggesting they may expose themselves to legal action. "If you don't quit, I'll just have to make a bad decision! I am going to get disciplined or possibly terminated and WHO WILL BE SORRY THEN?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

It’s not just the WTU. There is a no strike clause in every union contract in DC. it’s against the law for any union to strike in DC.

Cool. That doesn't change the point.

I don’t care how many press releases there are. The union is not going to vote for a strike.

Why do you think that?

Members will not sacrifice their jobs for this. You will see the usual crew of people drumming up support for this but it’s not going to happen. Once schools opened, that was it. It’s fine if you don’t believe me, but I know that I am right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so goofy at this point that WTU keeps trying to threaten an illegal strike.

They can though and will if they keep seeing posts like these.

OOOooOoOoo SCAAARY.

Are you striking now?

I'm impressed how much it seems like the WTU pays attention to DCUM. If the WTU reacts to DCUM, then DCUM has a lot of power in this situation. Which is odd, because we are constantly told how much a bunch of racist Karens who should shut the f** up we are. Why would WTU pay attention and give power to such a loathsome, unrepresentative lot?

[Anonymous]

Seems weird to strike after some teachers are already back. I’ll roll with whatever because I support collective action, but I’m constantly flummoxed by this union’s choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

It’s not just the WTU. There is a no strike clause in every union contract in DC. it’s against the law for any union to strike in DC.

Cool. That doesn't change the point.

I don’t care how many press releases there are. The union is not going to vote for a strike.

Why do you think that?

Members will not sacrifice their jobs for this. You will see the usual crew of people drumming up support for this but it’s not going to happen. Once schools opened, that was it. It’s fine if you don’t believe me, but I know that I am right.

Oh, I'm fine with that. It just means the WTU is strategizing as well as a bag of moldy turnips. You don't talk about a strike unless you know (or can bluff) that you have the members behind you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

It’s not just the WTU. There is a no strike clause in every union contract in DC. it’s against the law for any union to strike in DC.

Cool. That doesn't change the point.

I don’t care how many press releases there are. The union is not going to vote for a strike.

Why do you think that?

Members will not sacrifice their jobs for this. You will see the usual crew of people drumming up support for this but it’s not going to happen. Once schools opened, that was it. It’s fine if you don’t believe me, but I know that I am right.

Oh, I'm fine with that. It just means the WTU is strategizing as well as a bag of moldy turnips. You don't talk about a strike unless you know (or can bluff) that you have the members behind you.

Correct. The WTU has always been dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so goofy at this point that WTU keeps trying to threaten an illegal strike.

They can though and will if they keep seeing posts like these.

OOOooOoOoo SCAAARY.

Are you striking now?

I love it. They're threatening us by suggesting they may expose themselves to legal action. "If you don't quit, I'll just have to make a bad decision! I am going to get disciplined or possibly terminated and WHO WILL BE SORRY THEN?"

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

It’s not just the WTU. There is a no strike clause in every union contract in DC. it’s against the law for any union to strike in DC.

Cool. That doesn't change the point.

I don’t care how many press releases there are. The union is not going to vote for a strike.

Why do you think that?

Members will not sacrifice their jobs for this. You will see the usual crew of people drumming up support for this but it’s not going to happen. Once schools opened, that was it. It’s fine if you don’t believe me, but I know that I am right.

This is what I think too. They have good jobs and benefits, and it's unlikely they could make more money teaching anywhere else in the area. Plus many of the worst teachers would get fired if they pulled the same behavior in other school systems. Only in DCPS can they get away with their behavior and performance.

We're in a very different posture than in November. It's sad because many parents joined in with WTU to protest the most vulnerable students getting in person spots because their kids weren't getting spots too. These same parents won't join with WTU to protest their own children getting spots or potentially getting spots in the future. It's disgusting, but it does mean that WTU doesn't have broad parent support anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

It’s not just the WTU. There is a no strike clause in every union contract in DC. it’s against the law for any union to strike in DC.

Cool. That doesn't change the point.

I don’t care how many press releases there are. The union is not going to vote for a strike.

Why do you think that?

Members will not sacrifice their jobs for this. You will see the usual crew of people drumming up support for this but it’s not going to happen. Once schools opened, that was it. It’s fine if you don’t believe me, but I know that I am right.

This is what I think too. They have good jobs and benefits, and it's unlikely they could make more money teaching anywhere else in the area. Plus many of the worst teachers would get fired if they pulled the same behavior in other school systems. Only in DCPS can they get away with their behavior and performance.

We're in a very different posture than in November. It's sad because many parents joined in with WTU to protest the most vulnerable students getting in person spots because their kids weren't getting spots too. These same parents won't join with WTU to protest their own children getting spots or potentially getting spots in the future. It's disgusting, but it does mean that WTU doesn't have broad parent support anymore.

WTU has to be the most hated organization in Washington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There should be a right to strike. Otherwise we're not living in a free society that protects workers' rights.

Also, it won't make one lick of difference to the quality of instruction anyway. We're providing in-person face-to-face instruction for the majority of the student body any time soon. Our cases, hospitalizations and deaths are just too high.

But the union (and therefore you) did in fact specifically agree to the no-strike clause. The collective bargaining agreement specifies that 1. the union can be held in violation and 2. individual members can be pushed with discipline or dismissal. So the union itself can be sued. I'm not sure whether the damages would be financial or what, but it would be a clear violation. And regarding individual teachers, probably they won't fire everyone, but certainly they will make examples of anyone deemed to be a ringleader or particularly vocal. Discipline would be more widespread.

Me? I’m not part of the union. I’m not a teacher, or affiliated with anything to do with unions or education.

It’s just that strikes are allowed in all civilized societies.

[Anonymous]

It’s over for WTU. On day 1 thousands of kids had the best day they had in MONTHS returning to school. The parents that got that are grateful and will guard that happiness and normalcy jealously and the parents that didn’t get it or were unsure want it. No going back now!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

WTU has to be the most hated organization in Washington.

I think it's probably metro.