APS Parent - incredibly disappointed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just stop. It isn’t minimal effort. It isn’t teachers taking advantage. I’m so tired of you privileged APS whiners complaining.

Please support your statement with some data/facts as OP has.

Facts? These are OP’s feelings

"The "live" portion of instruction amounts to roughly 12 hours/week. Mondays are teacher workdays, Tues-Fri is 9-2:20 with more than half that time spent on breaks or independent learning. Even "live teacher reading" is recorded"
This sounds like facts to me.

It’s also what is age appropriate for this age group. What do you want, 8 continuous hours straight of online instruction? “Teachers are taking advantage” is feelings. Baseless. “Minimal effort” is feelings. Both are baseless.

Small group and 1-1 should be rounding out the other time. OP- I’m also super pissed at my teacher’s lack of effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just stop. It isn’t minimal effort. It isn’t teachers taking advantage. I’m so tired of you privileged APS whiners complaining.

Please support your statement with some data/facts as OP has.

Facts? These are OP’s feelings

"The "live" portion of instruction amounts to roughly 12 hours/week. Mondays are teacher workdays, Tues-Fri is 9-2:20 with more than half that time spent on breaks or independent learning. Even "live teacher reading" is recorded"
This sounds like facts to me.

None of that necessarily equates to teachers failing to do their best or not wanting to work. Do you have evidence of a better virtual learning plan?

The only way it can be better is with radically smaller classes, like 10 students. With cameras on. But we can’t support that.

On that note - I bet there are a lot of amazing teachers that have retired, or live out-of-state, etc that would be thrilled to help support our students during DL. Where is the effort to improve the DL from APS??

[Anonymous]

I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

We have no idea.. but if they aren't with the students, and aren't grading assignments, it leaves some questions..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

We have no idea.. but if they aren't with the students, and aren't grading assignments, it leaves some questions..

How do you know that they aren’t working with a student or grading an assignment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

I can tell you:

- creating and differentiating materials for the never day since absolutely nothing we’ve used in the past can be used in this format without heavily adapting it for content and virtual completion
-tracking, compiling and submitting data for students who receive interventions
-attending endless GD meetings. Parent conferences , IEP reevaluations, LT, department, school faculty , mandatory monthly PD hours we have to log
-calling families of students who aren’t attending or completing work because heaven help us if we can’t show that we did everything short of going to their house and making them do the work
-creating videos and sending them to students who didn’t understand and need more help or can’t make it to class and need the instruction

[Anonymous]

OP,

This only means you are used to lots of hand holding, like many of your fellow Americans.

South Korea, which has better educational metrics by far than the USA, has no live lessons during distance learning. Neither do many of the world’s wealthiest nations, most of which do better than the USA in terms of math and literacy in international comparisons (in math, they ALL do better). Families receive recorded lessons and worksheets. They get the job down.

Stop whining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

We have no idea.. but if they aren't with the students, and aren't grading assignments, it leaves some questions..

How do you know that they aren’t working with a student or grading an assignment?

Other parents in class have the same complaints and none of my child's assignments have been graded or responded to. I've checked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

We have no idea.. but if they aren't with the students, and aren't grading assignments, it leaves some questions..

How do you know that they aren’t working with a student or grading an assignment?

They don’t. They’re making up scenarios to justify them being mad at someone .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

I can tell you:

- creating and differentiating materials for the never day since absolutely nothing we’ve used in the past can be used in this format without heavily adapting it for content and virtual completion
-tracking, compiling and submitting data for students who receive interventions
-attending endless GD meetings. Parent conferences , IEP reevaluations, LT, department, school faculty , mandatory monthly PD hours we have to log
-calling families of students who aren’t attending or completing work because heaven help us if we can’t show that we did everything short of going to their house and making them do the work
-creating videos and sending them to students who didn’t understand and need more help or can’t make it to class and need the instruction

thank you, you sound like an exceptional teacher and not one the OP is referencing here. This post doesn't apply to ALL teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

I can tell you:

- creating and differentiating materials for the never day since absolutely nothing we’ve used in the past can be used in this format without heavily adapting it for content and virtual completion
-tracking, compiling and submitting data for students who receive interventions
-attending endless GD meetings. Parent conferences , IEP reevaluations, LT, department, school faculty , mandatory monthly PD hours we have to log
-calling families of students who aren’t attending or completing work because heaven help us if we can’t show that we did everything short of going to their house and making them do the work
-creating videos and sending them to students who didn’t understand and need more help or can’t make it to class and need the instruction

PP here. This rings true. When I look at what the teachers are doing, their lesson plans are very well-prepared and clearly had to be adapted for distance learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

I can tell you:

- creating and differentiating materials for the never day since absolutely nothing we’ve used in the past can be used in this format without heavily adapting it for content and virtual completion
-tracking, compiling and submitting data for students who receive interventions
-attending endless GD meetings. Parent conferences , IEP reevaluations, LT, department, school faculty , mandatory monthly PD hours we have to log
-calling families of students who aren’t attending or completing work because heaven help us if we can’t show that we did everything short of going to their house and making them do the work
-creating videos and sending them to students who didn’t understand and need more help or can’t make it to class and need the instruction

thank you, you sound like an exceptional teacher and not one the OP is referencing here. This post doesn't apply to ALL teachers.

Do you think that teachers who were conscientious in the classroom suddenly decided to take advantage of the system when it was time for DL?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how you guys know what the teachers are doing when you don’t see them on the screen?

I can tell you:

- creating and differentiating materials for the never day since absolutely nothing we’ve used in the past can be used in this format without heavily adapting it for content and virtual completion
-tracking, compiling and submitting data for students who receive interventions
-attending endless GD meetings. Parent conferences , IEP reevaluations, LT, department, school faculty , mandatory monthly PD hours we have to log
-calling families of students who aren’t attending or completing work because heaven help us if we can’t show that we did everything short of going to their house and making them do the work
-creating videos and sending them to students who didn’t understand and need more help or can’t make it to class and need the instruction

thank you, you sound like an exceptional teacher and not one the OP is referencing here. This post doesn't apply to ALL teachers.

But truly this IS what most of us are doing with our time. Just because OP doesn’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. It’s not fair to claim teachers are “taking advantage” and “putting in minimal effort” when this is HOURS of invisible work we do every single day to make the few hours of instruction you actually see even possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP,

This only means you are used to lots of hand holding, like many of your fellow Americans.

South Korea, which has better educational metrics by far than the USA, has no live lessons during distance learning. Neither do many of the world’s wealthiest nations, most of which do better than the USA in terms of math and literacy in international comparisons (in math, they ALL do better). Families receive recorded lessons and worksheets. They get the job down.

Stop whining.

DCUM is full of some of the planet's softest people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ones who you think are “taking advantage” of the distance learning format were probably crappy teachers anyway. There are always people who are unmotivated and bad at their jobs. So yeah there is no connection to the amount of in-person time our kids get and the quality of the teacher.

Also when my child is doing independent work, the teacher is usually working in small groups with other kids. Just because you don’t see the teacher on the screen doesn’t mean the teacher isn’t working!

So one of my kids teachers JUST started small groups this week— and it’s only for math. She said at our conference that she had no evidence for determining his reading level or if he was meeting expectations for writing. That’s shocking! I get she’s overwhelmed but what reading instruction has my kid been getting for the past eight weeks?
There is such a discrepancy between schools that I don’t think you can really compare...