Magnets/school within a school and its impact on the rest of the school population

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

This is simply not true. I have a child at the Takoma Park MS magnet, and admission is through testing, teacher recommendations, and a rather extensive application form. 125 students are admitted; the rest of the applicants are not. For certain of the slots, in-boundary students have priority.

There is no lottery system.

Poster, directly from the application to TPES which you can find on the Takoma Park Elementary school website (click on magnet): Parent must sign that they understand-
"I understand that identification does not insure acceptance in the program and there are very limited number of spaces available. Qualified students will be selected by pool."

So how is it you claim that there is no lottery? Also, the application form I have was hardly extensive. You even state that 125 students are admitted and the rest are not. So how are you claiming that certain qualified students were not turned away? Of course they are.

[Anonymous]

She thinks that only the top 125 kids get in; the rest don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

Don't think so. Both my kids are in magnets (not in downcounty consortium schools, which are lotteries), so I've seen it up close. There are many more qualified kids than magnet slots, this is true. But the magnets take the most qualified kids first, and then work their way down the long list of qualified kids. (Weast, are you out there? Can we get more magnets?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

Don't think so. Both my kids are in magnets (not in downcounty consortium schools, which are lotteries), so I've seen it up close. There are many more qualified kids than magnet slots, this is true. But the magnets take the most qualified kids first, and then work their way down the long list of qualified kids. (Weast, are you out there? Can we get more magnets?)

OK I guess I got confused by what I read on their website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

Don't think so. Both my kids are in magnets (not in downcounty consortium schools, which are lotteries), so I've seen it up close. There are many more qualified kids than magnet slots, this is true. But the magnets take the most qualified kids first, and then work their way down the long list of qualified kids. (Weast, are you out there? Can we get more magnets?)

OK I guess I got confused by what I read on their website.

I don't know what magnet schools your kids are in, but TPES is a lottery for out of boundary students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

Don't think so. Both my kids are in magnets (not in downcounty consortium schools, which are lotteries), so I've seen it up close. There are many more qualified kids than magnet slots, this is true. But the magnets take the most qualified kids first, and then work their way down the long list of qualified kids. (Weast, are you out there? Can we get more magnets?)

OK I guess I got confused by what I read on their website.

I don't know what magnet schools your kids are in, but TPES is a lottery for out of boundary students after they've qualified through testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

Don't think so. Both my kids are in magnets (not in downcounty consortium schools, which are lotteries), so I've seen it up close. There are many more qualified kids than magnet slots, this is true. But the magnets take the most qualified kids first, and then work their way down the long list of qualified kids. (Weast, are you out there? Can we get more magnets?)

14:45 here - yes, this is correct. They take the top kids, then other (qualified for sure) kids are put on the wait-list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

Don't think so. Both my kids are in magnets (not in downcounty consortium schools, which are lotteries), so I've seen it up close. There are many more qualified kids than magnet slots, this is true. But the magnets take the most qualified kids first, and then work their way down the long list of qualified kids. (Weast, are you out there? Can we get more magnets?)

14:45 here - yes, this is correct. They take the top kids, then other (qualified for sure) kids are put on the wait-list.

I think you need to call TPES and discuss it with them. Because they made it very very clear to us that once we qualified (out of boundary) we would enter a lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for your responses. The kids can't get into magnet because it's a lottery. It was interesting to hear from the former non-magnet student at a magnet school, but at our magnet you cannot take any magnet classes unless you're in the program.

Small correction: entrance to magnet programs is by application, including testing. Entrance to "consortium" schools is by lottery. But otherwise ITA that once your kid is in the school in question, it's too late to make the change to the magnet part of the school.

Entrance to at least some magnets is by testing, but once the student qualifies through testing, they enter the lottery.

This is simply not true. I have a child at the Takoma Park MS magnet, and admission is through testing, teacher recommendations, and a rather extensive application form. 125 students are admitted; the rest of the applicants are not. For certain of the slots, in-boundary students have priority.

There is no lottery system.

Poster, directly from the application to TPES which you can find on the Takoma Park Elementary school website (click on magnet): Parent must sign that they understand-
"I understand that identification does not insure acceptance in the program and there are very limited number of spaces available. Qualified students will be selected by pool."

So how is it you claim that there is no lottery? Also, the application form I have was hardly extensive. You even state that 125 students are admitted and the rest are not. So how are you claiming that certain qualified students were not turned away? Of course they are.

One of these posters is discussing the Takoma Park MIDDLE School (TPMS) Magnet. The other is discussing the Takoma Park ELEMENTARY School (TPES) magnet.

According to the MCPS website, the middle school magnet admits 100 students per year, not 125. The TPMS magnet serves these clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walter Johnson, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Northeast Consortium, and Downcounty Consortium.

[Anonymous]

I'm 18:12, and I was indeed, like PP says, discussing TPMS and the high school magnets.

I think it may be true that TPES is done differently, through a pool of qualified kids. (We did TPES too, but at the time we weren't conscious of all the mechanics of the process.)

Last night we were at the TPMS open house for kids admitted for the magnet next year. I heard the program director say there were 600+ applicants for 100 slots. I wondered at the time whether he meant 100 slots, or 100 offers of admissions. If the former, they may actually offer slots to 120 kids and only 100 take it up.