Lack of content in schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids what you want them to know. There are a million free resources out there. You can complain all you want, but any change will be far too late for your child to benefit. You don’t have to stay at home or homeschool, but, if it is really important to you for your child to know a thing, you teach it.

I love this answer. “Teach your kid geography/history/social science on your own! What’s wrong with you, expecting that school will teach your kid any of that!”

Ridiculous.

It is practical advice, you just want some SJW kudos as you feign outrage and continually fail to actually accomplish anything. Carry on pissing into the wind, the rest of have stuff to do.

WTF are you prattling on about? I have an exceptionally successful career, as does my husband. As a result, we send our kid to private school, where she learns content.

You can continue to bitch about how parents should just accept that schools won’t teach it. We take care of our kid.

And I have no idea where the hell you got SJW from.

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, if you're in the DC area, the only way to have your kids learn grammar, spelling, geography, history, and science is to leave the public school system. We did, and it's so much better. My kids learned more in the first month of school this year than they did for the entire year last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids what you want them to know. There are a million free resources out there. You can complain all you want, but any change will be far too late for your child to benefit. You don’t have to stay at home or homeschool, but, if it is really important to you for your child to know a thing, you teach it.

I love this answer. “Teach your kid geography/history/social science on your own! What’s wrong with you, expecting that school will teach your kid any of that!”

Ridiculous.

It is practical advice, you just want some SJW kudos as you feign outrage and continually fail to actually accomplish anything. Carry on pissing into the wind, the rest of have stuff to do.

WTF are you prattling on about? I have an exceptionally successful career, as does my husband. As a result, we send our kid to private school, where she learns content.

You can continue to bitch about how parents should just accept that schools won’t teach it. We take care of our kid.

And I have no idea where the hell you got SJW from.

Then why are you even concerned about the public schools? Oh, right, you care so much about the 'poor kids'. Nah, you are just trying to get around to the government giving you a voucher to pay for your private school courtesy of the working poor who can’t afford all of your tax write-offs. No thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids what you want them to know. There are a million free resources out there. You can complain all you want, but any change will be far too late for your child to benefit. You don’t have to stay at home or homeschool, but, if it is really important to you for your child to know a thing, you teach it.

I love this answer. “Teach your kid geography/history/social science on your own! What’s wrong with you, expecting that school will teach your kid any of that!”

Ridiculous.

It is practical advice, you just want some SJW kudos as you feign outrage and continually fail to actually accomplish anything. Carry on pissing into the wind, the rest of have stuff to do.

WTF are you prattling on about? I have an exceptionally successful career, as does my husband. As a result, we send our kid to private school, where she learns content.

You can continue to bitch about how parents should just accept that schools won’t teach it. We take care of our kid.

And I have no idea where the hell you got SJW from.

Then why are you even concerned about the public schools? Oh, right, you care so much about the 'poor kids'. Nah, you are just trying to get around to the government giving you a voucher to pay for your private school courtesy of the working poor who can’t afford all of your tax write-offs. No thanks.

NP - Everyone in our society should be concerned about the quality of public schools. And they have the right to be concerned. And you need to learn more about the tax structure of our country.

[Anonymous]

Follow #KnowledgeMatters #CurriculumMatters for reformers advocating for content-rich curricula in elementary schools.

Read The Knowledge Gap by Natalie Wexler. She's all over this, and it's a quick read.

Core Knowledge includes science and history units in it's ELA curriculum. There is so much better out there.

Parents need to drive these reform conversations. We elect school board leaders, who often have no clue. Teacher education programs are a train wreck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, if you're in the DC area, the only way to have your kids learn grammar, spelling, geography, history, and science is to leave the public school system. We did, and it's so much better. My kids learned more in the first month of school this year than they did for the entire year last year.

Not even remotely the case for my kids. One of whom is a millennial. Two in MCPS HS now.

[Anonymous]

I moved my kids to private from a "good" school system and I have been shocked and frankly dismayed at the significant increase in content, expectations, and rigor. The experience has made me really question what I thought I knew about public education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Follow #KnowledgeMatters #CurriculumMatters for reformers advocating for content-rich curricula in elementary schools.

Read The Knowledge Gap by Natalie Wexler. She's all over this, and it's a quick read.

Core Knowledge includes science and history units in it's ELA curriculum. There is so much better out there.

Parents need to drive these reform conversations. We elect school board leaders, who often have no clue. Teacher education programs are a train wreck.

This this this! I just ordered the book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, if you're in the DC area, the only way to have your kids learn grammar, spelling, geography, history, and science is to leave the public school system. We did, and it's so much better. My kids learned more in the first month of school this year than they did for the entire year last year.

Not even remotely the case for my kids. One of whom is a millennial. Two in MCPS HS now.

Then you are not in a position to speak.
Go to an elementary school. See what they’re doing (remotely). You will not recognize any of it. You will be shocked at how different it is than what your own kids experienced. In a short amount of time, educators have dramatically changed how they teach. They focus on strategies, and don’t try to pass on knowledge or information. So, no social studies, science, geography, no grammar or spelling or vocabulary work. It’s completely bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Follow #KnowledgeMatters #CurriculumMatters for reformers advocating for content-rich curricula in elementary schools.

Read The Knowledge Gap by Natalie Wexler. She's all over this, and it's a quick read.

Core Knowledge includes science and history units in it's ELA curriculum. There is so much better out there.

Parents need to drive these reform conversations. We elect school board leaders, who often have no clue. Teacher education programs are a train wreck.

This this this! I just ordered the book.

Here’s a preview of the argument from an article she wrote for the Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/08/the-radical-case-for-teaching-kids-stuff/592765/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, if you're in the DC area, the only way to have your kids learn grammar, spelling, geography, history, and science is to leave the public school system. We did, and it's so much better. My kids learned more in the first month of school this year than they did for the entire year last year.

It’s more of a National problem. Some public schools (scattered throughout the country) actually still teach that stuff. I would guess it’s that most do not... I am a teacher and I agree it is a major problem. But we cannot teach what we want and how we want. It is (stupidly) paced out and scheduled for us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids what you want them to know. There are a million free resources out there. You can complain all you want, but any change will be far too late for your child to benefit. You don’t have to stay at home or homeschool, but, if it is really important to you for your child to know a thing, you teach it.

I love this answer. “Teach your kid geography/history/social science on your own! What’s wrong with you, expecting that school will teach your kid any of that!”

Ridiculous.

It is practical advice, you just want some SJW kudos as you feign outrage and continually fail to actually accomplish anything. Carry on pissing into the wind, the rest of have stuff to do.

WTF are you prattling on about? I have an exceptionally successful career, as does my husband. As a result, we send our kid to private school, where she learns content.

You can continue to bitch about how parents should just accept that schools won’t teach it. We take care of our kid.

And I have no idea where the hell you got SJW from.

Then why are you even concerned about the public schools? Oh, right, you care so much about the 'poor kids'. Nah, you are just trying to get around to the government giving you a voucher to pay for your private school courtesy of the working poor who can’t afford all of your tax write-offs. No thanks.

I’m sorry, I know you’re coming from a good place, but please open your eyes. Do you think it’s fair private elementary school kids get to learn history, but public school kids don’t? Is it fair they get daily science, but public kids get it once a week, if that? Is it fair that private schools have high standards for their students and public school kids have low standards? Do you know how low the standards are for public school children v. affluence children??
And if you happen to be in a great public school, wonderful for you. But realize you have a gem, and you should advocate for all the other children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Follow #KnowledgeMatters #CurriculumMatters for reformers advocating for content-rich curricula in elementary schools.

Read The Knowledge Gap by Natalie Wexler. She's all over this, and it's a quick read.

Core Knowledge includes science and history units in it's ELA curriculum. There is so much better out there.

Parents need to drive these reform conversations. We elect school board leaders, who often have no clue. Teacher education programs are a train wreck.

E.D. Hirsch and Core Knowledge were doing studies years ago... research shows that kids must have content knowledge in order for their reading to progress. This led to the SOLs. Then parents started complaining about testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teach your kids what you want them to know. There are a million free resources out there. You can complain all you want, but any change will be far too late for your child to benefit. You don’t have to stay at home or homeschool, but, if it is really important to you for your child to know a thing, you teach it.

I love this answer. “Teach your kid geography/history/social science on your own! What’s wrong with you, expecting that school will teach your kid any of that!”

Ridiculous.

It is practical advice, you just want some SJW kudos as you feign outrage and continually fail to actually accomplish anything. Carry on pissing into the wind, the rest of have stuff to do.

WTF are you prattling on about? I have an exceptionally successful career, as does my husband. As a result, we send our kid to private school, where she learns content.

You can continue to bitch about how parents should just accept that schools won’t teach it. We take care of our kid.

And I have no idea where the hell you got SJW from.

Then why are you even concerned about the public schools? Oh, right, you care so much about the 'poor kids'. Nah, you are just trying to get around to the government giving you a voucher to pay for your private school courtesy of the working poor who can’t afford all of your tax write-offs. No thanks.

I’m sorry, I know you’re coming from a good place, but please open your eyes. Do you think it’s fair private elementary school kids get to learn history, but public school kids don’t? Is it fair they get daily science, but public kids get it once a week, if that? Is it fair that private schools have high standards for their students and public school kids have low standards? Do you know how low the standards are for public school children v. affluence children??
And if you happen to be in a great public school, wonderful for you. But realize you have a gem, and you should advocate for all the other children.

Right, because you, personally know what is best. Let me ask you, did any public school parent EVER approach you and ask you to 'advocate' for them? What gives you the right to speak for me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Follow #KnowledgeMatters #CurriculumMatters for reformers advocating for content-rich curricula in elementary schools.

Read The Knowledge Gap by Natalie Wexler. She's all over this, and it's a quick read.

Core Knowledge includes science and history units in it's ELA curriculum. There is so much better out there.

Parents need to drive these reform conversations. We elect school board leaders, who often have no clue. Teacher education programs are a train wreck.

I read this recently and found it very convincing. This new penchant for teaching "skills" totally divorced from content gives kids no context or systematic instruction and severely disadvantages kids who don't get background knowledge at home. It put into words something I have been frustrated about for a long time but couldn't precisely describe.