Adding Third Child (Infant) to Two-Toddler Nanny Share

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would expect to pay 1/3 if I had one kid in a 3 kid share.

Absolutely. Especially if it’s a situation like adding an infant where most of the nanny’s attention will go towards your children.

The absolute maximum that the other family should pay is 1/3

Agreed.
I'm shocked that a pp suggests that the other family with one child pays $14, while OP with two kids pays $18!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, your nanny is currently paid $26/hour? Is she due for a yearly raise as well as a 3rd child raise?

With regards to the naysayers, nannies manage toddler two new and a newborn fairly often. If your nanny feels excited about this change and both families feel she is competent to manage 3 children, go for it! If the share has worked well so far, don’t assume you have to break it up.

Regarding rates: have both sets of parents sat down for an open and honest conversation about what the single child family expects to pay once the baby joins the share? Without that discussion, you don’t know if the share can continue. I’d find it reasonable to have that family either pay $1-2 less or keep their rate the same. I think your family needs to pay an additional $4/hour, taking the nanny’s overall rate to $30/hour. If she is due for a yearly raise, I’d suggest the other family pay $14/hour and your family pay $18/hour, taking the overall rate to $32/hour.

Good luck negotiating all of these changes!

This seems right to me - Other family pays $11, you pay $19, nanny gets $30 per hour. But you definitely have to talk honestly. I could see a nanny being thrilled at the extra money. I could also see the nanny being like, "nope, way too much extra work, you guys are on your own." Same with the other family - I could see them being thrilled at saving a little money, or bummed that their kid won't be getting as much attention. There's a lot of variables here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, your nanny is currently paid $26/hour? Is she due for a yearly raise as well as a 3rd child raise?

With regards to the naysayers, nannies manage toddler two new and a newborn fairly often. If your nanny feels excited about this change and both families feel she is competent to manage 3 children, go for it! If the share has worked well so far, don’t assume you have to break it up.

Regarding rates: have both sets of parents sat down for an open and honest conversation about what the single child family expects to pay once the baby joins the share? Without that discussion, you don’t know if the share can continue. I’d find it reasonable to have that family either pay $1-2 less or keep their rate the same. I think your family needs to pay an additional $4/hour, taking the nanny’s overall rate to $30/hour. If she is due for a yearly raise, I’d suggest the other family pay $14/hour and your family pay $18/hour, taking the overall rate to $32/hour.

Good luck negotiating all of these changes!

This seems right to me - Other family pays $11, you pay $19, nanny gets $30 per hour. But you definitely have to talk honestly. I could see a nanny being thrilled at the extra money. I could also see the nanny being like, "nope, way too much extra work, you guys are on your own." Same with the other family - I could see them being thrilled at saving a little money, or bummed that their kid won't be getting as much attention. There's a lot of variables here.

Try $10 and $20 or $11 and $22.

[Anonymous]

You think you should only pay $18/hour for a toddler and a baby? Yikes.

Are we talking under the table rates/?

[Anonymous]

Each child's care right now is $13/hour.

Why do you think you get a huge discount on a baby (who is much more work?)

$13/hour x 3 is the absolute floor of what you should offer. $39hour.

[Anonymous]

OP here - thanks for all the constructive thoughts. We are fortunate that our share is working out very well, both for the families and the nanny. All parties have discussed the three-child arrangement and are excited to move forward with it, so it’s a matter of figuring out the logistics. Sounds like we’ll take your input, and have additional discussions amongst our group to come up with an agreement that works best for us.

[Anonymous]

Loutwo wrote:I've seen some older posts about this, but would be interested if anyone has recent experience when adding a third child to a nanny share. We currently have a two-family, two-child nanny share. Our nanny, who is wonderful, cares for our two year old, and another family's two year old. We hope to add our 5 month old to the share in the next month or so, which means the nanny will be caring for three children--two toddlers and an infant--from two families.

I'm curious what additional pay is typical for adding a child in these circumstances. I've seen estimates anywhere from $1 to $5, but that's a large variation.

Also, we obviously would pay the full additional amount for adding the third child (since it's our kid), but does the other family pay a reduced share of the overall hourly rate? For example, the families currently split the cost of the nanny equally, $13 per family for a total of $26 per hour. If we increased the nanny's pay by $4 for the third child, would the other family continue to pay what they have paid ($13) and we would pay the remainder ($13+$4=$17 in this example)? Or would the other family pay a reduced amount (i.e., $12) and we pay a larger portion (i.e., $14+$4=$18)?

Why would that family keep paying $13 when their kid would get LESS attention? I might even object entirely to the baby being added. 2 year olds have to be supervised CLOSELY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, your nanny is currently paid $26/hour? Is she due for a yearly raise as well as a 3rd child raise?

With regards to the naysayers, nannies manage toddler two new and a newborn fairly often. If your nanny feels excited about this change and both families feel she is competent to manage 3 children, go for it! If the share has worked well so far, don’t assume you have to break it up.

Regarding rates: have both sets of parents sat down for an open and honest conversation about what the single child family expects to pay once the baby joins the share? Without that discussion, you don’t know if the share can continue. I’d find it reasonable to have that family either pay $1-2 less or keep their rate the same. I think your family needs to pay an additional $4/hour, taking the nanny’s overall rate to $30/hour. If she is due for a yearly raise, I’d suggest the other family pay $14/hour and your family pay $18/hour, taking the overall rate to $32/hour.

Good luck negotiating all of these changes!

LOL to the $14 for one kid family v. $18 for the 2 kid family. More like a $11 v. $21 split is reasonable. At most, a $12 v. $20 split.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol $1. Would you increase your workload by 50% for $1 hour?? Time to get your own nanny. They are $25-$30/hour.

This is the correct answer. Sorry, OP.

+2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Each child's care right now is $13/hour.

Why do you think you get a huge discount on a baby (who is much more work?)

$13/hour x 3 is the absolute floor of what you should offer. $39hour.

For that money I would just find my own nanny and not share with a third kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would think of $13 as the infant rate, since that's what you've been paying for the other infants. Then I'd figure out what was a reasonable rate, and divide the remainder equally. So, for example, maybe $13 for the infant, and $10 for each of the other two, so your family pays $23 and the other family pays $10, for a total rate of $33, and a $7 raise. I can't really see less than that.

This.

But honestly, at $23 you might as well get your own nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - thanks for all the constructive thoughts. We are fortunate that our share is working out very well, both for the families and the nanny. All parties have discussed the three-child arrangement and are excited to move forward with it, so it’s a matter of figuring out the logistics. Sounds like we’ll take your input, and have additional discussions amongst our group to come up with an agreement that works best for us.

While the other family may be open in theory I think you’ll find that their enthusiasm wanes when they realize how much less individualized attention their child is receiving and how much his/her activities and routines are constrained by the baby’s needs. I can’t imagine paying a premium to have my 2/3 year old in a triple nanny share with an infant rather than just enrolling them in an accredited preschool for a more reasonable cost.

[Anonymous]

$33.00 for two toddlers and an infant? You must be crazy.