Is Councilmember Mary Cheh trying to have DCPS track HPV vaccines administer w/o consent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As one of her constituents I am constantly asking “Why is Mary Cheh spending her efforts on things that are at most a low level priority for Ward 3?” Mary, please focus on overcrowding of ward 3 schools!! Or the fact that Friendship Heights is turning into a ghost town of empty storefronts. Or something of interest to the voters living in your ward. It’s like every other ward has a council member that represents the interests of the voters in that Ward and we have our very own at large council member.

She literally got DCPS to buy/build two new schools in the Ward.
She literally got over $500,000 to stabilize Friendship Heights.

But sure, keep on complaining.

[Anonymous]

Amazing that they don't trust a 20 year old to have a glass of wine with dinner but they apparently trust 11 year olds to understand their medical history and be able to read a vaccine insert and then understand all the risks.

If there's a medical issue resulting from the vaccine, the responsibility of dealing with that also legally falls on the parent, but I guess the government doesn't care about that.

And half the kids in DC are basically illiterate at 11 years old, but I guess the government doesn't care about that either. I mean, who cares if the kids don't even have the ability to READ the risks that they're apparently agreeing to...

Outrageous.

[Anonymous]

Basic healthcare is a path to a good life. what good is it if a kid can read but has to live with HPV or other maladies that can otherwise be easily dealt with?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Basic healthcare is a path to a good life. what good is it if a kid can read but has to live with HPV or other maladies that can otherwise be easily dealt with?

If people start thinking that the schools will do whatever they want with their kids, inject whatever, all without parental consent (or even knowledge?) then that is going to have a massive impact on truancy rates.

Why would parents stress out to send their kids somewhere where they're literally being taught to disrespect their parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

Because a not insignificant number of parents are abusive assh#les. Or just want to arbitrarily exercise power over their teen kids. And you need the vaccine before you become sexually active, which is typically when you’re still a minor.

While this is not an issue that majorly impacts Ward 3, it is an issue that impacts kids growing up in low income homes in Wards 7 & 8. You think Trayon White is going to write this legislation and protect those kids? No way. Better to have Cheh on top of this, imho.

+1!!

[Anonymous]

Vaccination requirements in schools are to prevent epidemics, people from spreading.

Why should not having HPV vaccine be used as a reason to deny kids entry to the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

Because a not insignificant number of parents are abusive assh#les. Or just want to arbitrarily exercise power over their teen kids. And you need the vaccine before you become sexually active, which is typically when you’re still a minor.

While this is not an issue that majorly impacts Ward 3, it is an issue that impacts kids growing up in low income homes in Wards 7 & 8. You think Trayon White is going to write this legislation and protect those kids? No way. Better to have Cheh on top of this, imho.

+1!!

An eleven year old is not a teen by any definition. Furthermore, if you think eleven year olds are competent enough to make important decisions about their health, you should go read the parenting forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

Because a not insignificant number of parents are abusive assh#les. Or just want to arbitrarily exercise power over their teen kids. And you need the vaccine before you become sexually active, which is typically when you’re still a minor.

While this is not an issue that majorly impacts Ward 3, it is an issue that impacts kids growing up in low income homes in Wards 7 & 8. You think Trayon White is going to write this legislation and protect those kids? No way. Better to have Cheh on top of this, imho.

+1!!

An eleven year old is not a teen by any definition. Furthermore, if you think eleven year olds are competent enough to make important decisions about their health, you should go read the parenting forum.

In this case, the "important decision" is to follow the CDC vaccine schedule.

Human papillomavirus vaccination (minimum age: 9 years)
Routine and catch-up vaccination
HPV vaccination routinely recommended at age 11–12 years (can start at age 9 years) and catch-up HPV vaccination recommended for all persons through age 18 years if not adequately vaccinated
2- or 3-dose series depending on age at initial vaccination:
Age 9 –14 years at initial vaccination: 2-dose series at 0, 6–12 months (minimum interval: 5 months; repeat dose if administered too soon)
Age 15 years or older at initial vaccination: 3-dose series at 0, 1–2 months, 6 months (minimum intervals: dose 1 to dose 2: 4 weeks / dose 2 to dose 3: 12 weeks / dose 1 to dose 3: 5 months; repeat dose if administered too soon)
Interrupted schedules: If vaccination schedule is interrupted, the series does not need to be restarted.
No additional dose recommended after completing series with recommended dosing intervals using any HPV vaccine.
Special situations
Immunocompromising conditions, including HIV infection: 3-dose series as above
History of sexual abuse or assault: Start at age 9 years.
Pregnancy: HPV vaccination not recommended until after pregnancy; no intervention needed if vaccinated while pregnant; pregnancy testing not needed before vaccination

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html#note-hpv

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

Because a not insignificant number of parents are abusive assh#les. Or just want to arbitrarily exercise power over their teen kids. And you need the vaccine before you become sexually active, which is typically when you’re still a minor.

While this is not an issue that majorly impacts Ward 3, it is an issue that impacts kids growing up in low income homes in Wards 7 & 8. You think Trayon White is going to write this legislation and protect those kids? No way. Better to have Cheh on top of this, imho.

+1!!

An eleven year old is not a teen by any definition. Furthermore, if you think eleven year olds are competent enough to make important decisions about their health, you should go read the parenting forum.

You sound like one of the controlling, abusive parents I talked about in my post.

The vaccine is very safe. HPV and cancer are way more dangerous than the vaccine itself. Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The proposal would still require consent, just consent from the child not the parent. It would also bring the rules for vaccines in line with the laws for other medical procedures such as birth control or mental health care. It probably won't increase vaccination rates much if at all, but if a competent kid wants to be vaccinated, I'd prefer that they were.

The record reference is to documentation of the vaccine being provided to the school directly if the parent claims an exemption, but the student chooses to get vaccinated on their own. In those cases, rather than alert the parent that child is making their own vaccination decisions, the school gets the information from the physician. That seems reasonable to me, given the threat to students who make choices other than what their parents want.

All in all seems like a good law to me.

The idea that kids can give informed consent is ridiculous. This is why it is against the law to have sex with them, have them sign an enforceable contract, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

The HPV vaccine has risks and benefits, like all other vaccines (along with medical procedures and pharmaceuticals). The parent is the person who can best judge whether the benefits outweigh the risks for their particular child or vice versa. I am plenty educated on vaccines and had my own kids receive all vaccines except this one (in retrospect, I also should have refused Hep B). - MPH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

The HPV vaccine has risks and benefits, like all other vaccines (along with medical procedures and pharmaceuticals). The parent is the person who can best judge whether the benefits outweigh the risks for their particular child or vice versa. I am plenty educated on vaccines and had my own kids receive all vaccines except this one (in retrospect, I also should have refused Hep B). - MPH

Are you the same MPH who has been providing lots of misinformation about covid?

Here are the risks of the HPV vaccine:

Adverse Reactions
The most common adverse reactions reported during clinical trials of HPV vaccines were local reactions at the site of injection.
In prelicensure clinical trials, local reactions such as pain, redness, or swelling were reported by 20% to 90% of recipients.
A temperature of 100°F during the 15 days after vaccination was reported in 10% to 13% of HPV vaccine recipients. A similar proportion of placebo recipients reported an elevated temperature.
A variety of systemic adverse reactions have been reported by vaccine recipients, including nausea, dizziness, myalgia, and malaise. However, these symptoms occurred with equal frequency among both HPV vaccine and placebo recipients.
Local reactions generally increased in frequency with increasing doses. However, reports of fever did not increase significantly with increasing doses.
No serious adverse events have been associated with any HPV vaccine. Ongoing monitoring is conducted by CDC and the Food and Drug Administration.
Syncope (fainting) can occur after any medical procedure, including vaccination. Adolescents should be seated or lying down during vaccination and remain in that position for 15 minutes after vaccination. This is to prevent any injuries that could occur from a fall during a syncopal event.

In summary, the primary risk of the HPV vaccine is: a sore arm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The proposal would still require consent, just consent from the child not the parent. It would also bring the rules for vaccines in line with the laws for other medical procedures such as birth control or mental health care. It probably won't increase vaccination rates much if at all, but if a competent kid wants to be vaccinated, I'd prefer that they were.

The record reference is to documentation of the vaccine being provided to the school directly if the parent claims an exemption, but the student chooses to get vaccinated on their own. In those cases, rather than alert the parent that child is making their own vaccination decisions, the school gets the information from the physician. That seems reasonable to me, given the threat to students who make choices other than what their parents want.

All in all seems like a good law to me.

The idea that kids can give informed consent is ridiculous. This is why it is against the law to have sex with them, have them sign an enforceable contract, etc.

The age of consent in DC is 16.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The HPV vaccine is great. I think we can all acknowledge that. The question is why are we trying to conduct an end around parent instead of educating the,. So we are trying to bully the kids instead of educating the parents. Why?

This just screams of being unnecessary?

The HPV vaccine has risks and benefits, like all other vaccines (along with medical procedures and pharmaceuticals). The parent is the person who can best judge whether the benefits outweigh the risks for their particular child or vice versa. I am plenty educated on vaccines and had my own kids receive all vaccines except this one (in retrospect, I also should have refused Hep B). - MPH

Unfortunately, this is not always the case. And that's why we need laws like this for anything involving sex, abuse, and mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The proposal would still require consent, just consent from the child not the parent. It would also bring the rules for vaccines in line with the laws for other medical procedures such as birth control or mental health care. It probably won't increase vaccination rates much if at all, but if a competent kid wants to be vaccinated, I'd prefer that they were.

The record reference is to documentation of the vaccine being provided to the school directly if the parent claims an exemption, but the student chooses to get vaccinated on their own. In those cases, rather than alert the parent that child is making their own vaccination decisions, the school gets the information from the physician. That seems reasonable to me, given the threat to students who make choices other than what their parents want.

All in all seems like a good law to me.

The idea that kids can give informed consent is ridiculous. This is why it is against the law to have sex with them, have them sign an enforceable contract, etc.

If you live in DC, your teen can already get vaccines without your consent.