External Cephalic Version

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, and there's a reason OB's don't want to attempt vaginal deliveries with breech babies because the danger to the baby is considerably higher than ECV. I'm not risking getting the baby's head stuck in the birth canal. If the version doesn't work, I'm going straight to c-section.

Not really true.

Ahhhh.......never mind. No one here gives a rats ass about why OB's *really* do what they do.

For those interested in vaginal breech delivery, Dr. Tchabo is willing to do it, as are a few homebirth midwives.

LMAO...right there with you. I've been shoveling too much snow and reading too many FB updates from local doulas and midwives who have been attending births during the snowstorms to have the energy to address the half-truths being shouted by this nurse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I'm in NW DC so the chiropractor recommendation works--thanks! I will look into that. I do like my acupuncturist but he's never seen it work and I don't have time to waste here.

I'll have to see if my husband is up for helping me with the ironing board trick.

I highly recommend Tulsi Holistic Living in the Dupont Circle area
http://www.tulsiholisticliving.com
Karina - acupuncturist specializes with breech babies
202 332 3501

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Awesome! Did the flipping hurt? How far along were you?

No, it didn't hurt at all. I was 36 weeks. Went it spontaneous labor at 40 weeks and 3 days.

oh look! what an honor... we have gisele among us!!!

[Anonymous]

How does that maker her a Gisele? Somebody asked her a question, and she answered it. A baby moving doesn't hurt, jeez. Ever been pregnant? Then you really ought to know that it's not painful when your baby moves.

Both of mine were breech until around 37 weeks, and then flipped themselves. One got confused, apparently, as he ended up being born "sunny side up". And PP was right, it didn't really hurt. I swam a lot, and my OB thought both of them likely did it while I was swimming--no gravity, no "pull" on them. Who knows?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does that maker her a Gisele? Somebody asked her a question, and she answered it. A baby moving doesn't hurt, jeez. Ever been pregnant? Then you really ought to know that it's not painful when your baby moves.

Both of mine were breech until around 37 weeks, and then flipped themselves. One got confused, apparently, as he ended up being born "sunny side up". And PP was right, it didn't really hurt. I swam a lot, and my OB thought both of them likely did it while I was swimming--no gravity, no "pull" on them. Who knows?

let's say that again... slower now...
baby flipping on it's own doesn't hurt. baby being flipped from outside forcefully against nature hurts as hell!!! unless, sure, you're GB and nothing in the real world touches you...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Awesome! Did the flipping hurt? How far along were you?

No, it didn't hurt at all. I was 36 weeks. Went it spontaneous labor at 40 weeks and 3 days.

oh look! what an honor... we have gisele among us!!!

Really, it didn't hurt at all. I'm not lying. But the posterior labor hurt like a b****.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Awesome! Did the flipping hurt? How far along were you?

No, it didn't hurt at all. I was 36 weeks. Went it spontaneous labor at 40 weeks and 3 days.

oh look! what an honor... we have gisele among us!!!

Really, it didn't hurt at all. I'm not lying. But the posterior labor hurt like a b****.

I was the one who asked I believe you that it didn't hurt.

As for babies moving never hurting, well, at 27 weeks my little guy causes me a sharp pain at least twice a day with strong kicks. He'd better be a kickboxing star.

[Anonymous]

Ahhhh.......never mind. No one here gives a rats ass about why OB's *really* do what they do.

No, please enlighten. The ass in question is my unborn baby's.

It won't change my mind about having a doctor perform a procedure with which he/she is uncertain or inexperienced performing. Whatever their reason.

[Anonymous]

Why do these threads always turn so nasty? It makes me want to stop coming here sometimes.

Anyway, OP, I do have an experience to relate. My first son was breech and I had an ECV with Dr. Tchabo... well, actually, his resident did it. It did hurt like HELL, and it was unsuccessful. Frankly, if I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't and would just schedule a c-section, which is what wound up happening regardless. My son's cord was wrapped not only around his neck, but also looped around one shoulder and then around his neck. It's really a wonder that the ECV did not tear his cord. I stayed with Dr. T because he thought I was a good candidate for a vaginal birth - supposedly my son was not large. The day I was induced, the OB doing the ultrasound estimated he was no more than 7 lb 12 oz. So I tried vaginal (via induction), but luckily I did not dilate. Because my 9 lb 9 oz son with a HUGE head (keeping in mind the cord issues) was delivered via c-section about 13 hours later. I thanked all that was holy later a) ECV had not torn his cord and b) the vaginal delivery was not able to be attempted. I truly believe he would likely not be here today had it gone as I and the doctor planned. When I think about how his cord could've torn, his head could've gotten stuck... I just shudder.

Sorry if that's a downer, but I think everyone should know the potential dangers of ECV and vaginal breech delivery. My 5 year old, bright, lovable son is proof that sometimes a c-section is not the worst thing that can happen.

I do recommend you try all the natural techniques (moxibustion, chiro, etc.) mentioned here. They obviously didn't (couldn't have) worked for me, but they can't hurt... but ECV can.

I hope that helps. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Thank you, 17:03, that was just the kind of experience/insight I was seeking. As I keep thinking on it, I find that the risk to my baby is more frigtening to me than either a c-section or the potential pain of an ECV. My gut is telling me he's positioned that way for a reason and if he can flip, he'll do it on his own.

[Anonymous]

17:03, can I ask, should they be able to see where the cord is from an ultrasound? Did they do one before the attempted version and not find a problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:17:03, can I ask, should they be able to see where the cord is from an ultrasound? Did they do one before the attempted version and not find a problem?

do you think if this was possible anybody would ever be surprised by a wrapped cord?

[Anonymous]

17:03 again. They could not tell anything about his wrapped cord from the ultrasound. Dr. Tchabo was as shocked as I was about the entire thing - the cord and his large size.

OP, I truly wish you all the best, whatever the method of delivery you have. Hopefully your baby will turn on his/her own, but if not, you and babe will be fine with a c-section. Truly, the only thing that matters in the end is a healthy baby and mom. I really had planned, for my entire pregnancy, on a natural birth with midwives for my son, and I had a hard time initially agreeing to the c-section. Thankfully, all turned out well in the end.

I'll keep checking here periodically in case you have any more questions.

[Anonymous]

OP - it's still early and many babies are breech at this point. Try the various techniques many have listed to get baby to turn before he gets too cramped. I was in the same position and my baby flipped at 37 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:17:03, can I ask, should they be able to see where the cord is from an ultrasound? Did they do one before the attempted version and not find a problem?

do you think if this was possible anybody would ever be surprised by a wrapped cord?

plenty of people are surprised by a cord wrap at the end of term because they haven't had an ultrasound in weeks. We've always seem the cord in ultrasounds, thus my confusion. I'm surprised it can't be seen bur glad to know.