HOA not enforcing ban on pitbulls

[Anonymous]

My condo development is supposed to be dog free. I love dogs and would love to have one as a pet.

Imagine our residents' surprise when in the last year or so, we've had a flood of dogs residing in the building. People are getting a quack doctor to claim their dog is "emotional support animal" and lawyer up when the HOA comes knocking.

If a resident pulls this kind of stunt it can be very expensive for an HOA to go after them. Doesn't matter what kind of dog it is, either. Can be a pit bull, Great Dane, whatever...

[Anonymous]

Our neighbors have 3 pit bulls. They seem very chill and sweet. As long as they stay on leash, I have no problems. I won’t pet them or go to their house, but I won’t call the HOA on them, either.
-a mom who’s 7yo son was bitten by a relative’s PB mix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors have 3 pit bulls. They seem very chill and sweet. As long as they stay on leash, I have no problems. I won’t pet them or go to their house, but I won’t call the HOA on them, either.
-a mom who’s 7yo son was bitten by a relative’s PB mix.

Then you are a dummy and don't deserve to have a child.

[Anonymous]

My experience with HOAs is that they're either total schoolmarms who get off on enforcing the rules, or they're absolute cowards who may pick on an easy target to flex once in a while, but otherwise are terrified of any real enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pitbulls are great dogs. Google it and get over yourself. You sound like trash. I hope you dont live in my neighborhood, Karen.

You are totally entitled to your opinion, but HOA is entitled to have rules and you can choose to live with those rules or live elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Are there any HOA rules you want to break? I would recommend getting a rooster and then sue them for discrimination for selectively applying animal bans only against you.

[Anonymous]

I am a officer in a condo. We have rules in our offering plan. We have rules voted on and filed with state to amend offering plan. Then we have “house rules”

House rules often have no teeth. If we do a fine and they don’t pay can’t put lien on house or get a judgement.

So it depends how strong rule is.

[Anonymous]

Hi there. I'm the "dummy" mom.

It was a nip, and I blame the relative's training of this animal moreso than the animal itself. However, they will now never be in the same place as my child.

Previously, every PB or pittie mix that I have encountered has been very sweet.

I am not going to paint all dogs of one breed with the same brush.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi there. I'm the "dummy" mom.

It was a nip, and I blame the relative's training of this animal moreso than the animal itself. However, they will now never be in the same place as my child.

Previously, every PB or pittie mix that I have encountered has been very sweet.

I am not going to paint all dogs of one breed with the same brush.

Name another domestic breed that kills people when not trained to do so?

[Anonymous]

Owner of two bully-type dogs here. Our dogs are far and away the best trained and least problematic dogs in the HOA - the neighbor has two mini poodle mix things that escape constantly and have bitten several people. Another neighbor has beagles who use the doggy door to bark at EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME, ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. We have pressed our HOA to deal with the noise and loose dog issues (both of which are prohibited in our bylaws), but the response is usually a shrug and "dogs will be dogs".

Anyway, I mention that we have "pit bulls" because we did our research when purchasing a home in an HOA to determine if there would be any issues with our dogs. The fact that your neighbor did not, OP, says more to me about her level of responsibility than her choice of dog. A person who thinks they're above rules isn't a good neighbor, regardless of whether they have a big or small dog. I would escalate this, if for no other reason than to impress upon the HOA and dog owner that she needs to have appropriate homeowners insurance to cover her dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi there. I'm the "dummy" mom.

It was a nip, and I blame the relative's training of this animal moreso than the animal itself. However, they will now never be in the same place as my child.

Previously, every PB or pittie mix that I have encountered has been very sweet.

I am not going to paint all dogs of one breed with the same brush.

Please reconsider.

I'm sorry to tell you that yes, all pit bulls must be "painted with the same brush" and it has nothing to do with the temperament of each individual dog. I know some pit bulls can be sweet.

But ALL pit bulls, as a breed, are physically built with jaws that are designed for a TYPE of bite that is especially dangerous to humans. Even a sweet dog can bite once, and with a pit bull, that one time can be fatal to the person bitten. Are you open to accepting that the issue is NOT "all pit bulls are evil" but "all pit bulls, if they bite, will inflict more serious damage than other breeds due to the nature of their bodies and the way they bite and hold on"?

It's a crucial distinction. It's not a value judgement on the nature of any one individual dog (though pit lovers will insist that's the case). It's a fact of the breed's biology that one bite, one time, can be fatal, even if that bite is delivered by a dog who is by nature a "nice" dog.

"Whether a pit bull bites more or less than another dog breed is not the point. The issue is the acute damage a pit bull inflicts when it does choose to bite. The pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style causes severe bone and muscle damage, often inflicting permanent and disfiguring injuries. Moreover, once a pit bull starts an attack, firearm intervention may be the only way to stop it." https://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php

Pit bulls do not necessarily bite more often than other breeds, but when they do bite, the results tend to be much worse, yes, even if the dog has been perfectly sweet up until that second.

[Anonymous]

As an HOA rule though, where will it stop? Will Bull Mastiffs be allowed? What about Rottweiler? German Shepherd? You’ll have people arguing for why others are allowed or banned, etc...?

Maybe consider implementing a muzzle rule for dogs in areas of access to the public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My experience with HOAs is that they're either total schoolmarms who get off on enforcing the rules, or they're absolute cowards who may pick on an easy target to flex once in a while, but otherwise are terrified of any real enforcement.

+1 OP, since you fit the first category, why not join the HOA board?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi there. I'm the "dummy" mom.

It was a nip, and I blame the relative's training of this animal moreso than the animal itself. However, they will now never be in the same place as my child.

Previously, every PB or pittie mix that I have encountered has been very sweet.

I am not going to paint all dogs of one breed with the same brush.

Name another domestic breed that kills people when not trained to do so?

Cane Corso, Dogo Argenitno, Chow Chow, Rottweiler, German Shepherd . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi there. I'm the "dummy" mom.

It was a nip, and I blame the relative's training of this animal moreso than the animal itself. However, they will now never be in the same place as my child.

Previously, every PB or pittie mix that I have encountered has been very sweet.

I am not going to paint all dogs of one breed with the same brush.

Name another domestic breed that kills people when not trained to do so?

Any breed of large dog might kill someone. It's rare for any dog to kill a person, but any large dog can do it. The list of dog related fatalities includes German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottlweilers Huskies, and Mastiffs. All of these breeds are big and protective.