Virginia Democrats approve elimination of mandatory minimum For assaulting police

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Great idea, let’s stop giving police special rights.


Exactly. Cops should have fewer rights than the people, not more.

This country has gone crazy.


If by “crazy” you mean “sick and tired of seeing police acting as runaway slave patrols”, yes, we should all get crazy.


By "crazy" I mean people as bitter and malformed and benighted as you having any influence on public policy.


Admit it - you had to google “benighted”, didn’t you? Because maga’s don’t know big words.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Police shouldn't be treated as better than human. The legal penalty for assaulting a human shouldn't be based on profession. In this nation we aspire to recognize all humans as equal. I know we fall short, but eliminating this disparity in treatment is a good first step.

Anonymous
If the officer is out of uniform and not on duty, penalty should be the same.

If they are attacked while performing public safety and protection duties, the higher penalty makes sense because public safety is threatened.

Hitting a police officer in the jaw while he is trying to handcuff a rapist is much worse than hitting him in the jaw while he is off duty having a beer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If the officer is out of uniform and not on duty, penalty should be the same.

If they are attacked while performing public safety and protection duties, the higher penalty makes sense because public safety is threatened.

Hitting a police officer in the jaw while he is trying to handcuff a rapist is much worse than hitting him in the jaw while he is off duty having a beer.


So then you can also charge with 'interfering with police business'.

Mandatory minimums have been a failure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Police shouldn't be treated as better than human. The legal penalty for assaulting a human shouldn't be based on profession. In this nation we aspire to recognize all humans as equal. I know we fall short, but eliminating this disparity in treatment is a good first step.



This.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Police shouldn't be treated as better than human. The legal penalty for assaulting a human shouldn't be based on profession. In this nation we aspire to recognize all humans as equal. I know we fall short, but eliminating this disparity in treatment is a good first step.



For all of the talk about police reform, you aren’t going to get better candidates for law enforcement jobs if you cut their budgets and remove protections they need in order to perform their jobs (e.g., qualified immunity). We will end up with the bottom feeders.

And if someone puts him/herself out there in a public safety role (police, fire, etc) and gets assaulted while they are on duty, then the resulting criminal charge should absolutely be harsher. Eliminating that disparity would be a good first step in driving people away from considering those professions, or urging seasoned professionals to retire early.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Police shouldn't be treated as better than human. The legal penalty for assaulting a human shouldn't be based on profession. In this nation we aspire to recognize all humans as equal. I know we fall short, but eliminating this disparity in treatment is a good first step.



For all of the talk about police reform, you aren’t going to get better candidates for law enforcement jobs if you cut their budgets and remove protections they need in order to perform their jobs (e.g., qualified immunity). We will end up with the bottom feeders.

And if someone puts him/herself out there in a public safety role (police, fire, etc) and gets assaulted while they are on duty, then the resulting criminal charge should absolutely be harsher. Eliminating that disparity would be a good first step in driving people away from considering those professions, or urging seasoned professionals to retire early.


We should also give police officers more free reign because then we'll get better candidates. Maybe even something like prima nocta rights.

Let's see what other great policy ideas I have. Oh, hey, we haven't talked about trickle down economics in a while!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Great idea, let’s stop giving police special rights.


Exactly. Cops should have fewer rights than the people, not more.

This country has gone crazy.


If by “crazy” you mean “sick and tired of seeing police acting as runaway slave patrols”, yes, we should all get crazy.


Lol. It's so sad to see someone like you who has been so convinced that they are a victim that they are no longer capable of functioning as a free thinking adult. Today's slaves don't runaway- you just snuggle up to the Democrats and wait for them to give you crumbs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great idea, let's make it easier to hurt police

https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/08/virginia-senate-approves-changes-to-police-assault-law/


Police shouldn't be treated as better than human. The legal penalty for assaulting a human shouldn't be based on profession. In this nation we aspire to recognize all humans as equal. I know we fall short, but eliminating this disparity in treatment is a good first step.



For all of the talk about police reform, you aren’t going to get better candidates for law enforcement jobs if you cut their budgets and remove protections they need in order to perform their jobs (e.g., qualified immunity). We will end up with the bottom feeders.

And if someone puts him/herself out there in a public safety role (police, fire, etc) and gets assaulted while they are on duty, then the resulting criminal charge should absolutely be harsher. Eliminating that disparity would be a good first step in driving people away from considering those professions, or urging seasoned professionals to retire early.


Qualified immunity is an entirely different beast and I'm not opposed to it.

If the point of this enhanced penalty was to keep cops safer, it wasn't working. Studies overwhelmingly show that harsher sentencing has absolutely zero impact on a person who is about to commit a crime. They aren't thinking straight as it is, particularly when it comes to assault. They aren't going to stand there and say "Hey, I might get more time in jail for hitting this cop than for hitting Joe, who stole my drug money. Let me think this through a bit more."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the officer is out of uniform and not on duty, penalty should be the same.

If they are attacked while performing public safety and protection duties, the higher penalty makes sense because public safety is threatened.

Hitting a police officer in the jaw while he is trying to handcuff a rapist is much worse than hitting him in the jaw while he is off duty having a beer.


So then you can also charge with 'interfering with police business'.

Mandatory minimums have been a failure.


Not really, keeps the criminals away in prison from the law abiding citizen
Anonymous
Good. 99% of those charges are falsely filed by cops to intimidate civilians against filing complaints about police misconduct, or to insulate themselves from civil suits, or just to do the usual and pad up their overtime. A cop in Virginia is handsomely paid to do little of actual value. A cop can just file a phony complaint against someone for the fun of it, and get out of liability and destroy somebody’s life because of the cop’s own misconduct. This curbs that pattern.
Anonymous
If black communities are so afraid of cops then please lobby the city council to remove them from your neighborhood. The rest of us appreciate the police and would welcome the increased presence. Win win.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If black communities are so afraid of cops then please lobby the city council to remove them from your neighborhood. The rest of us appreciate the police and would welcome the increased presence. Win win.

You being witty or you subconsciously confessing your wish for a return to segregation?
So hard to tell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If black communities are so afraid of cops then please lobby the city council to remove them from your neighborhood. The rest of us appreciate the police and would welcome the increased presence. Win win.

You being witty or you subconsciously confessing your wish for a return to segregation?
So hard to tell.


Neither. Blacks are terrified by the police. Lebron tells me it's so. All of my friends, family, coworkers, respect the police and love having them around. I want black people to feel safe and happy also, and they have said that doing away with the police would accomplish this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If black communities are so afraid of cops then please lobby the city council to remove them from your neighborhood. The rest of us appreciate the police and would welcome the increased presence. Win win.

You being witty or you subconsciously confessing your wish for a return to segregation?
So hard to tell.


Neither. Blacks are terrified by the police. Lebron tells me it's so. All of my friends, family, coworkers, respect the police and love having them around. I want black people to feel safe and happy also, and they have said that doing away with the police would accomplish this.

Yes but you gotta admit you’re sending out some serious segregation vibes because if it’s true, as LeBron told you then that means you think all Blacks live in predominantly Black communities. You’re like, “Yay I figured it out” because you think the Black people who live in predominantly Black communities will feel safe and happy but what about the Black people who live in predominantly white or diverse communities? They may not love having them around like you and may not feel safe and be happy so it’s not a win win.
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