University study says DL is great for students who credit it for a reduction in anxiety and stress

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting but you do realize that yeah maybe some kids are better cause they don’t see their bullies but a lot more kids are upset?

my kid didn’t have depression or anxiety regarding school. She loved school. She is however, sad about DL. She doesn’t care school is starting again and doesn’t want to do DL.

Just because a minority of kids are doing better doesn’t mean DL is good thing for most kids.

The problem is the public education doesn’t allow free alternatives to traditional public school. Increasingly traditional public school isn’t working for a large number of students from diverse backgrounds. It’s not just a bullied kid. It’s all sorts of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting but you do realize that yeah maybe some kids are better cause they don’t see their bullies but a lot more kids are upset?

my kid didn’t have depression or anxiety regarding school. She loved school. She is however, sad about DL. She doesn’t care school is starting again and doesn’t want to do DL.

Just because a minority of kids are doing better doesn’t mean DL is good thing for most kids.

I'm sorry... was there a portion of the study that said the majority of kids should do DL because some kids anxiety level decreased? If so I missed it, can you copy and paste that section so I can read it.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting but you do realize that yeah maybe some kids are better cause they don’t see their bullies but a lot more kids are upset?

my kid didn’t have depression or anxiety regarding school. She loved school. She is however, sad about DL. She doesn’t care school is starting again and doesn’t want to do DL.

Just because a minority of kids are doing better doesn’t mean DL is good thing for most kids.

The problem is the public education doesn’t allow free alternatives to traditional public school. Increasingly traditional public school isn’t working for a large number of students from diverse backgrounds. It’s not just a bullied kid. It’s all sorts of kids.

Most states or districts have free asynchronous cyber schools, and have for many years.

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What age? Middle schools.

Where the study on age 3-12?

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Anonymous wrote:That doesn’t surprise me, since spring distance learning was virtually nonexistent, and everyone was excited with the novelty of not being in school. Now, months later, the effects of long term isolation would likely Be setting in and presenting a completely different picture. I see the same thing with my employees. Telework was awesome when it started, but the mental health and well being issues are starting to creep in.

Yes. This is exactly right. If you had asked my kid in public school about DL last spring, DC would have been very positive. No work, basically a vacation with an occasional zoom meeting with no content. What's not to like from a kid's point of view? Having no school obligations is fun for kids. DC worked on projects, hung out with friends on Discord, played video games, slept in late, etc. The only learning that happened was what we made DC do. From DCs point of view, spring DL was awesome.

It was another matter for my kids in private, who had real school online. That was hard for them -- they could not see friends other than online, but still had a workload. They started their days at 8 am, had labs, essays, homework, reading assignments, grades, etc. Their answers would have been much more negative, because they had the work of school without the positive social tradeoffs.

I largely view this survey as confirming that no learning occurred in the spring.

My very social daughter even made a video on her iPod (with the help with her K sister) about how happy she was in the beginning - running up the stair and shouting with glee. That was back in March.

Now she is downcast and can't wait to go back to school in person.

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That’s what my kids said, and I noticed they started to sleep better and they each had a growth spurt that was more significant than years past.

+1

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I have one of each. My middle Schooler was depressed because he missed all his friends. Online just isn’t the same. And most of his school friends don’t live anywhere near us.
My elementary student is anxious by nature. Distance-learning was great for him. Most of his anxious tics disappeared. However, I don’t think it’s a long-term solution. He needs to know how to interact with other people face-to-face.

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Middle school sucks from so many different angles. I’m not surprised. My DS loves DL. He got a lot more sleep which helped his mood yet could still socialize online playing video games with his friends.

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PP again. He goes to private school so grading was the same but there was even more work than usual. He still liked it. He is supposed to go one day a week this fall in person and he said that’s enough in person for him.

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My 5th grader is a new kid. His school was doing an awful job with distance learning so we stepped in and supplemented with Outschool and some homeschooling. He made huge gains in subject areas he had been struggling in and also just got - nicer, less anxious, and more engaging. He isn’t bullied but has never enjoyed school. We agreed to homeschool full time for the next year - though we want to be sure there is more socializing once the pandemic passes .

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Distance learning has also completely eliminated school shootings. No one talks about it but Generation Z definitely has taken notice.

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I could definitely see this being the case for some kids, sure. Especially middle schoolers. They’re at the sweet spot where they don’t have labs/experiments yet like HSers, but are also tech savvy enough to work their own computers at home and don’t need a parent around 24/7 for troubleshooting like early ES kids. The self-motivated kids can keep themselves on task. I would have liked it as a kid because I was bullied and anxious in school. But I’m sure I was in the minority. And it’s still a pale substitute for in person/classroom learning when it comes to actually understanding and absorbing the content. There’s a reason why the public online schools have an application process and need parental involvement - they’re mostly asynchronous and not kids sitting on Zoom meetings 6 hours a day.

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Anonymous wrote:What age? Middle schools.

Where the study on age 3-12?

Middle school is 11-14

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting but you do realize that yeah maybe some kids are better cause they don’t see their bullies but a lot more kids are upset?

my kid didn’t have depression or anxiety regarding school. She loved school. She is however, sad about DL. She doesn’t care school is starting again and doesn’t want to do DL.

Just because a minority of kids are doing better doesn’t mean DL is good thing for most kids.

The problem is the public education doesn’t allow free alternatives to traditional public school. Increasingly traditional public school isn’t working for a large number of students from diverse backgrounds. It’s not just a bullied kid. It’s all sorts of kids.

Most states or districts have free asynchronous cyber schools, and have for many years.

NP. That's true but how many parents would have been okay or even encouraged switching to this model? Not a lot, judging by the vitriol in many posts. It's only now that the situation has been forced that parents are actually witnessing and understanding that traditional schools don't work for everyone.