Should we submit lower than expected SAT scores

[Anonymous]

Again PP- It’s so hard because colleges are going to make up the rules this year as they go along. The truth of the matter is no one knows.

[Anonymous]

Op: Thanks everyone. If we can't get a second retest, we will waive it. To the person who said 1400 is high. Yes, she did great but not high enough for the 10 schools she is interested in. Good idea on the APs. All 5s but one (first online one and we had some difficulties that caused timing issues).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, DD took SAT in March to try it out. Got 1400. Low for our schools. Expected this. Took SAT prep class one on one. Scoring really well now but can't seem to take the test. Dates keep canceling. Top choices are Notre Dame, Rice, Cornell. Should we submit if we could do better assuming others are in same boat?

Op. All As. Captain of sport. Girl scouts. But lacking anything amazing.

With all As and score below the 25th percentile, I would not submit the score.

Middle 50 percentile ranges, per section C9 of the 2019-2020 Common Data Set (enrolled class of 2023):

Notre Dame - not reported in CDS; class profile reports 1410-1540 for enrolled class of 2023
Rice 1470-1560
Cornell 1420-1540

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look at the Common Data Set for the college to see where 1400 falls in the distribution.

NP. What would be the general guidance about this? Only submit if your score is well above the "middle 50%" range? Or submit if it's anywhere within the high end of that range?

For example, if the CDS says a school's middle 50% are in the 1200-1400 range, what would you do if you had a score of 1250? Of 1350? Of 1450?

In that example, the 25th percentile would be 1200. I'd submit all three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, DD took SAT in March to try it out. Got 1400. Low for our schools. Expected this. Took SAT prep class one on one. Scoring really well now but can't seem to take the test. Dates keep canceling. Top choices are Notre Dame, Rice, Cornell. Should we submit if we could do better assuming others are in same boat?

Op. All As. Captain of sport. Girl scouts. But lacking anything amazing.

With all As and score below the 25th percentile, I would not submit the score.

Middle 50 percentile ranges, per section C9 of the 2019-2020 Common Data Set (enrolled class of 2023):

Notre Dame - not reported in CDS; class profile reports 1410-1540 for enrolled class of 2023
Rice 1470-1560
Cornell 1420-1540

This proves cornel is still a good school is at the bottom of the second tier cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing that you think 1400 is a low score

For an average student it’s great. For a kid without a hook apply to Rice or Cornell, it’s a deal killer.

You have an excuse not to submit, OP. Use it.

Another idea. I have a rising junior who two ACTs cold this week. No prep. Just trying to get an idea if it was better than the SAT. She got a 34 (35 combined verbal) on the first one and and a 35 (combined verbal of 36) on the second. Not going into STEM. If she can do that on the actual test, you’d better believe we are going to get scores.

We have grandparents and siblings in NC, SC and GA. She’ll probably ED a SLAC. IF test dates are till being cancelled this spring, we are planning to take her down to a sketchy public health state over spring break to sit for the ACT. It’s a great year to have a solid score. Maybe a trip to NY or New England or one of he states not cancelling is in order? It would be worth it to have scores in the 1520+ range to submit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the Common Data Set for the college to see where 1400 falls in the distribution.

NP. What would be the general guidance about this? Only submit if your score is well above the "middle 50%" range? Or submit if it's anywhere within the high end of that range?

For example, if the CDS says a school's middle 50% are in the 1200-1400 range, what would you do if you had a score of 1250? Of 1350? Of 1450?

In that example, the 25th percentile would be 1200. I'd submit all three.

UMC white or Asian kid without a hook from the DMV needs to aim for the 75% on the SAT. Deep talent pool competing for even tier two schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the Common Data Set for the college to see where 1400 falls in the distribution.

NP. What would be the general guidance about this? Only submit if your score is well above the "middle 50%" range? Or submit if it's anywhere within the high end of that range?

For example, if the CDS says a school's middle 50% are in the 1200-1400 range, what would you do if you had a score of 1250? Of 1350? Of 1450?

In that example, the 25th percentile would be 1200. I'd submit all three.

UMC white or Asian kid without a hook from the DMV needs to aim for the 75% on the SAT. Deep talent pool competing for even tier two schools.

Thankfully a UMC or asian white kid from the dmv has plenty of life advantages.

[Anonymous]

I’m assuming that standardized test scores will be lower this year due to fewer tests. Planning to submit if higher than 25%. Time will tell if that was the right choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, DD took SAT in March to try it out. Got 1400. Low for our schools. Expected this. Took SAT prep class one on one. Scoring really well now but can't seem to take the test. Dates keep canceling. Top choices are Notre Dame, Rice, Cornell. Should we submit if we could do better assuming others are in same boat?

Tough nuts to crack unless URM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at the Common Data Set for the college to see where 1400 falls in the distribution.

NP. What would be the general guidance about this? Only submit if your score is well above the "middle 50%" range? Or submit if it's anywhere within the high end of that range?

For example, if the CDS says a school's middle 50% are in the 1200-1400 range, what would you do if you had a score of 1250? Of 1350? Of 1450?

In that example, the 25th percentile would be 1200. I'd submit all three.

UMC white or Asian kid without a hook from the DMV needs to aim for the 75% on the SAT. Deep talent pool competing for even tier two schools.

Thankfully a UMC or asian white kid from the dmv has plenty of life advantages.

white kids, yes. Asian kids, not so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing that you think 1400 is a low score

For an average student it’s great. For a kid without a hook apply to Rice or Cornell, it’s a deal killer.

You have an excuse not to submit, OP. Use it.

Another idea. I have a rising junior who two ACTs cold this week. No prep. Just trying to get an idea if it was better than the SAT. She got a 34 (35 combined verbal) on the first one and and a 35 (combined verbal of 36) on the second. Not going into STEM. If she can do that on the actual test, you’d better believe we are going to get scores.

We have grandparents and siblings in NC, SC and GA. She’ll probably ED a SLAC. IF test dates are till being cancelled this spring, we are planning to take her down to a sketchy public health state over spring break to sit for the ACT. It’s a great year to have a solid score. Maybe a trip to NY or New England or one of he states not cancelling is in order? It would be worth it to have scores in the 1520+ range to submit.

It is a pandemic and you are planning on traveling to have your child take the ACT again when she already has a 35? This is either a troll post or you really have no perspective. There’s nearly no SLAC for which your daughter with an ED application will not be a competitive applicant with a 35 and actually she will look crazy that she did exactly what you are planning when the admissions officers see that she traveled away from how to a “Red” state during the pandemic to sit for it again. Think again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s amusing that you think 1400 is a low score

For an average student it’s great. For a kid without a hook apply to Rice or Cornell, it’s a deal killer.

You have an excuse not to submit, OP. Use it.

Another idea. I have a rising junior who two ACTs cold this week. No prep. Just trying to get an idea if it was better than the SAT. She got a 34 (35 combined verbal) on the first one and and a 35 (combined verbal of 36) on the second. Not going into STEM. If she can do that on the actual test, you’d better believe we are going to get scores.

We have grandparents and siblings in NC, SC and GA. She’ll probably ED a SLAC. IF test dates are till being cancelled this spring, we are planning to take her down to a sketchy public health state over spring break to sit for the ACT. It’s a great year to have a solid score. Maybe a trip to NY or New England or one of he states not cancelling is in order? It would be worth it to have scores in the 1520+ range to submit.

It is a pandemic and you are planning on traveling to have your child take the ACT again when she already has a 35? This is either a troll post or you really have no perspective. There’s nearly no SLAC for which your daughter with an ED application will not be a competitive applicant with a 35 and actually she will look crazy that she did exactly what you are planning when the admissions officers see that she traveled away from how to a “Red” state during the pandemic to sit for it again. Think again.

I think the PP was saying 35 on practice tests at home, not the real thing.

[Anonymous]

I’m assuming that standardized test scores will be lower this year due to fewer tests. Planning to submit if higher than 25%. Time will tell if that was the right choice.

This seems like a safe assumption - there will be very little super-scoring. I would pick a couple of schools where the score is in the top 25% to be safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m assuming that standardized test scores will be lower this year due to fewer tests. Planning to submit if higher than 25%. Time will tell if that was the right choice.

This seems like a safe assumption - there will be very little super-scoring. I would pick a couple of schools where the score is in the top 25% to be safe.

For test optional schools, I wonder who will submit. If only top submit than scores will be through the roof.