The Arizona teacher who died had Lupus, Diabetes and Asthma / those affected qualify for paid leave

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.

Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.

Please tell me more about your plan to cycle 80+ people through one room at lunch time.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.

Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.

Please tell me more about your plan to cycle 80+ people through one room at lunch time.

Or 200 in our school....

That said, I would assume anyone eating anything is doing it at their desks.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish DCPS would consider all sorts of possible plans. For high school, for instance, consider having more in-person school for grades 9 and 12 since they are pivotal (adjusting to high school and finishing high school) and have 10th and 11th be primarily DL (they've already adjusted to high school).

Not sure people would agree with your assumption that 11th and 12th graders- who are applying to college- need less F2F than 9th and 10th.

Anyhow, one hopes that DCPS is being nuanced with their approach, yes.

Fair enough. However I argued that 9th and 12th should be F2F more than 10th and 11th.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

But the other two teachers almost certainly got it from her. So 2/3 teachers in this story got the virus in the classroom despite masks and social distancing. It's evidence that if you're spending multiple hours in a small enclosed spaces with an infectious person, you're likely to get infected despite masks and social distancing. Those are strategies designed for brief interactions, like the grocery store, not hours and hours in the same classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.

Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.

We don't know yet how common kid to kid transmission is, because kids haven't been in school. Camp data is showing that at least for teenagers, kids spread like as adults.

Special education teachers, ELL teachers, and paraeducators are also adults who would need to be in classrooms.

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I’m a teacher and at the minimum I will be wearing a mask AND a face shield. I am most likely also buying scrubs to wear. I will carry had sanitizer with me at all times. I teach small children. I understand this will probably scare them but it is what I need to do for my family.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.

Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.

Please tell me more about your plan to cycle 80+ people through one room at lunch time.

Or 200 in our school....

That said, I would assume anyone eating anything is doing it at their desks.

I assumed the PP was talking about getting lunch out of the (only) fridge and (only) microwave. Obviously we'll have to bring and store our own lunches as these areas will be off limits. It just drives me crazy that someone posts a "duh you can just do XYZ" to a single problem and bam, schools can be opened. It's clear the PP doesn't have a clue how staff lunches work.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.

Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.

Please tell me more about your plan to cycle 80+ people through one room at lunch time.

Or 200 in our school....

That said, I would assume anyone eating anything is doing it at their desks.

I assumed the PP was talking about getting lunch out of the (only) fridge and (only) microwave. Obviously we'll have to bring and store our own lunches as these areas will be off limits. It just drives me crazy that someone posts a "duh you can just do XYZ" to a single problem and bam, schools can be opened. It's clear the PP doesn't have a clue how staff lunches work.

Agree. I want hybrid as much as the next person, but I acknowledge this is not an easy problem to solve- and may not be solvable in a way that keeps people safe.

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There's a difference between leave, paid leave, and partially paid leave. With my husband's pay cut, I can't afford to accept 2/3 of my salary to be on partially paid leave. So far DCPS has not offered or announced a full-time, full-pay distance teaching option. It was in-person or take leave.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, we can't say definitively that the teacher got infected at school. We know people in AZ have not really been staying home, so it's possible she could have got it somewhere else.

It doesn’t matter where she got it. The result will be the same for hybrid/in person. The class/school will shut down for 14 days minimum. I don’t know why people are harping in getting it at school. It does not change the result.

People are posting this story as supposed proof that it is unsafe for teachers to be in the school building (in support of 100% DL). People are pointing out that she may have gotten it elsewhere.

True, but it spread to the other two adults who were in school spending hours together but taking all recommended precautions. That's the dangerous part.

Most transmissions are adult-adult or adult-kid. I would definitely eliminate in-person contact between teachers/staff in the fall, to the extent possible. Staff mtgs can be virtual. Teachers' lounge can be one at a time to get lunch.

We don't know yet how common kid to kid transmission is, because kids haven't been in school. Camp data is showing that at least for teenagers, kids spread like as adults.

Special education teachers, ELL teachers, and paraeducators are also adults who would need to be in classrooms.

This is important. It does make things more complicated, and it is required by current law. Schools have to provide the services they are required to provide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and at the minimum I will be wearing a mask AND a face shield. I am most likely also buying scrubs to wear. I will carry had sanitizer with me at all times. I teach small children. I understand this will probably scare them but it is what I need to do for my family.

I don't think it will scare the kids, especially once they get used to it. My kids hated masks at first but now it's been normalized. I think they'll think the shield is cool. That said, I hope the district would provide these items. If not, it's one more thing for the PTO to fundraise for.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and at the minimum I will be wearing a mask AND a face shield. I am most likely also buying scrubs to wear. I will carry had sanitizer with me at all times. I teach small children. I understand this will probably scare them but it is what I need to do for my family.

I don't think it will scare the kids, especially once they get used to it. My kids hated masks at first but now it's been normalized. I think they'll think the shield is cool. That said, I hope the district would provide these items. If not, it's one more thing for the PTO to fundraise for.

agree that your students won't be scared unless that's your goal, I guess...

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I'm not sure why staff would absolutely need to rotate through and use a single central microwave, refrigerator, prep space, etc. It's a pandemic. Surely staff can do what I did in grade school to bring a lunch with me that could not be heated up or refrigerated -- you use a thermos, and/or cold packs, and/or a frozen water bottle, and/or food that can sit at room temperature.

I suppose if you needed to refrigerate medication? But there are great tiny coolers now, and the like.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and at the minimum I will be wearing a mask AND a face shield. I am most likely also buying scrubs to wear. I will carry had sanitizer with me at all times. I teach small children. I understand this will probably scare them but it is what I need to do for my family.

I’ll be doing the same and a hair bonnet. Maybe even goggles. I know it sounds so crazy, but that will make me feel safer.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and at the minimum I will be wearing a mask AND a face shield. I am most likely also buying scrubs to wear. I will carry had sanitizer with me at all times. I teach small children. I understand this will probably scare them but it is what I need to do for my family.

I’ll be doing the same and a hair bonnet. Maybe even goggles. I know it sounds so crazy, but that will make me feel safer.

Won't really help if it's truly airborne, unfortunately. Masks and face shields protect others, not you.