Violence interrupter tragedy

[Anonymous]

Admittedly I’ve always lived in the ‘burbs...but the DC government actually employs “violence interrupters”?

This is all horrifying and sad. Yet another senseless loss of life and some more “thoughts and prayers” that will do nothing.

[Anonymous]

"Damn I was gonna shoot the guys selling drugs on my turf, but now that my violence has been interrupted, I've decided to return to college and finish my masters' degree". - said nobody ever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's very sad that she took her son into this violent neighborhood. Bad parenting. It's one thing for you to believe something but to force your kids into dangerous situations is terrible. It's like parents who decide they have a "vegan toddler" and then the kids gets sick because babies can survive on vegetables. Young children were not meant to be at a BBQ in the most violent neighborhoods!

People live in these neighborhoods you ass. How about taking your foot off the neck of the poor so they can improve their condition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Damn I was gonna shoot the guys selling drugs on my turf, but now that my violence has been interrupted, I've decided to return to college and finish my masters' degree". - said nobody ever

Improving economic conditions does lead people to better paths.

Do you personally benefit from the prison-industrial complex?

[Anonymous]

This is a terrible tragedy, the world can be so cruel sometimes I can’t believe it. He sounded like a really wonderful young man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Admittedly I’ve always lived in the ‘burbs...but the DC government actually employs “violence interrupters”?

This is all horrifying and sad. Yet another senseless loss of life and some more “thoughts and prayers” that will do nothing.

yep, they are on the DC payroll for maybe 60-70k a year (I saw a salary in an article before but I don't remember the exact number) and one of these "interrupters" was charged with unintentional discharge of a firearm in public

[Anonymous]

Imagine a geographically confined area that was filled with violence and depravity. Imagine that this area was a net cost on society-gov paid hundreds of millions more to this area than it received back from it in form of cops, prisons, welfare, social workers, etc. If you learned people were killing each other in that area and you did not live in that area, why be outraged? If anything, wouldn’t you be happy?

[Anonymous]

To the surprise of no one, all of the accused had heavy criminal records. One was on pre-trial release for a gun felony and was wearing an ankle monitoring bracelet at the time of the shooting:

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/crime/men-arrested-for-11-year-old-death-past-criminal-histories/65-8a9d9a95-775c-4468-b246-4a2b2c3c8d60

Allen will probably do what he can to see that they're released again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the surprise of no one, all of the accused had heavy criminal records. One was on pre-trial release for a gun felony and was wearing an ankle monitoring bracelet at the time of the shooting:

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/crime/men-arrested-for-11-year-old-death-past-criminal-histories/65-8a9d9a95-775c-4468-b246-4a2b2c3c8d60

Allen will probably do what he can to see that they're released again.

If it doesn't affect his life, why not let the criminals be free?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Damn I was gonna shoot the guys selling drugs on my turf, but now that my violence has been interrupted, I've decided to return to college and finish my masters' degree". - said nobody ever

Improving economic conditions does lead people to better paths.

Do you personally benefit from the prison-industrial complex?

Please articulate what system of prosecution and punishment/reform you would like to see in place and what you are willing to sacrifice for it (both financially, and as a theoretical victim of crime) to have the equitable , just and forward thinking criminal justice system you seek. Bullet points and examples are fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Damn I was gonna shoot the guys selling drugs on my turf, but now that my violence has been interrupted, I've decided to return to college and finish my masters' degree". - said nobody ever

Improving economic conditions does lead people to better paths.

Do you personally benefit from the prison-industrial complex?

Please articulate what system of prosecution and punishment/reform you would like to see in place and what you are willing to sacrifice for it (both financially, and as a theoretical victim of crime) to have the equitable , just and forward thinking criminal justice system you seek. Bullet points and examples are fine.

So you don't believe in programs to divert? You think that the current crime rate is just what we have to live with? Please provide evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Admittedly I’ve always lived in the ‘burbs...but the DC government actually employs “violence interrupters”?

This is all horrifying and sad. Yet another senseless loss of life and some more “thoughts and prayers” that will do nothing.

yep, they are on the DC payroll for maybe 60-70k a year (I saw a salary in an article before but I don't remember the exact number) and one of these "interrupters" was charged with unintentional discharge of a firearm in public

I bet you're going to be outraged when you hear the things armed police officers have done.

Haha, just kidding. I won't be surprised that you don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Damn I was gonna shoot the guys selling drugs on my turf, but now that my violence has been interrupted, I've decided to return to college and finish my masters' degree". - said nobody ever

Improving economic conditions does lead people to better paths.

Do you personally benefit from the prison-industrial complex?

Please articulate what system of prosecution and punishment/reform you would like to see in place and what you are willing to sacrifice for it (both financially, and as a theoretical victim of crime) to have the equitable , just and forward thinking criminal justice system you seek. Bullet points and examples are fine.

So you don't believe in programs to divert? You think that the current crime rate is just what we have to live with? Please provide evidence.

Not the PP, but no, I don't believe in programs to divert. A 16-year old that's willing to kill someone for a crew is a lost cause, and was probably a lost cause by age 10. You can turn around a few lives through aggressive intervention, job training, violence interrupters, etc, but for the most part all you're doing is delaying the inevitable recidivism. The funny thing is that we *know* how to reduce crime. We did it successfully during the 1990's and 2000's. You need aggressive policing in crime-prone neighborhoods, including rigorous but fair enforcement of quality of life crimes, including drug distribution. You also need vice units that will seek intelligence on crews that leads to actionable evidence (eg. raids that uncover drugs, weapons, etc). Longer sentences to keep offenders off the streets past the age of 35, and fewer chances offered to violent juvenile offenders.

All of this is precisely the opposite of the current "defund the police" movement, and we'll just have to wait for crime rates to spike into late-1980's territory for the inevitable "reconsideration" of priorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes very sad for the 11 year old boy and his mother.

However it does not negate the fact that the programs are largely useless, and based on a naive belief in social engineering.

We need more aggressive policing and a return of the vice squads to break up drug gangs and neighborhood crews. Since political correctness prevents this, get used to a return to Baltimore-levels of violence in DC.

Fools like you ask, "Why aren't people in the community trying to do something about the violence?" When community members make efforts to reduce urban violence, fools like you then say, "All of your efforts are pointless." Seems like a classic catch 22.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Damn I was gonna shoot the guys selling drugs on my turf, but now that my violence has been interrupted, I've decided to return to college and finish my masters' degree". - said nobody ever

Improving economic conditions does lead people to better paths.

Do you personally benefit from the prison-industrial complex?

Please articulate what system of prosecution and punishment/reform you would like to see in place and what you are willing to sacrifice for it (both financially, and as a theoretical victim of crime) to have the equitable , just and forward thinking criminal justice system you seek. Bullet points and examples are fine.

So you don't believe in programs to divert? You think that the current crime rate is just what we have to live with? Please provide evidence.

Not the PP, but no, I don't believe in programs to divert. A 16-year old that's willing to kill someone for a crew is a lost cause, and was probably a lost cause by age 10. You can turn around a few lives through aggressive intervention, job training, violence interrupters, etc, but for the most part all you're doing is delaying the inevitable recidivism. The funny thing is that we *know* how to reduce crime. We did it successfully during the 1990's and 2000's. You need aggressive policing in crime-prone neighborhoods, including rigorous but fair enforcement of quality of life crimes, including drug distribution. You also need vice units that will seek intelligence on crews that leads to actionable evidence (eg. raids that uncover drugs, weapons, etc). Longer sentences to keep offenders off the streets past the age of 35, and fewer chances offered to violent juvenile offenders.

All of this is precisely the opposite of the current "defund the police" movement, and we'll just have to wait for crime rates to spike into late-1980's territory for the inevitable "reconsideration" of priorities.

You also need intact two-parent, intact married families with fathers in the homes raising their kids. But no one is willing to discuss that, either.