20 percent of teachers not likely to return to classrooms if schools reopen in fall

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I bet there would be zero attrition for another round of distance “learning”...

No. I know several veteran teachers leaving over DL. Including a very talented reading teacher. For her, the issue was the inability to serve both her students and her own children in that format.

[Anonymous]

Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to read that article without paying for a subscription?

I'm a teacher and very worried about the number of teachers who won't or can't return. We had a terrible year this past year with several first year teachers in our building. One got fired, one quit on her own accord and the 3rd made it to the end of the year but isn't returning. Our students in those classes didn't learn much and between that and the school closures, we're going to have a whole lot of kids who basically lost out on a whole year's worth of instruction. We "had" all those openings filled with experienced, good teachers for next year, back in March. But now, I don't know if that is going to be the case.

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[Anonymous]

A lot of teachers will decide to retire or try another career before returning. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a rising third grader. If there is a schedule where I need to work 5 days a week and he is only going 2 days I will probably be one of the teachers who doesn't return.

My assumption was that a hybrid model would make it most impossible for teachers to return (at least those with kids). Fully distance, maybe they can get by kind of like now (though likely a partner will be back in the office so less support at home). Fully in school, their children are cared for. Half and half will work for about no one (and likely will DO ALMOST NOTHING to contain virus spread compared to full day).

[Anonymous]

Schools will not be open in the Fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to read that article without paying for a subscription?

I'm a teacher and very worried about the number of teachers who won't or can't return. We had a terrible year this past year with several first year teachers in our building. One got fired, one quit on her own accord and the 3rd made it to the end of the year but isn't returning. Our students in those classes didn't learn much and between that and the school closures, we're going to have a whole lot of kids who basically lost out on a whole year's worth of instruction. We "had" all those openings filled with experienced, good teachers for next year, back in March. But now, I don't know if that is going to be the case.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools will not be open in the Fall.

You are underestimating the power of political will. Everyone but some teachers and families with health issues want regular school back in the fall. Parents, businesses, politicians need public school to be in session.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

People don't actually care. They need somewhere to warehouse and occupy their kids while they work. The learning is secondary. And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. Schools serve a double function and our society and economy become structured on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

People don't actually care. They need somewhere to warehouse and occupy their kids while they work. The learning is secondary. And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. Schools serve a double function and our society and economy become structured on that.

I don't think you're entirely correct. Most people recognize the importance of education. They just feel conflicted about it, and they're not sure why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

People don't actually care. They need somewhere to warehouse and occupy their kids while they work. The learning is secondary. And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. Schools serve a double function and our society and economy become structured on that.

Really? Isn’t that only apply for k-2 grades. My 3rd grader is fine all day home if I make some sandwiches and give them the tv remote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

That’d be nice but most districts don’t have the budget for ideal operation during normal times let alone for such a proposal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

People don't actually care. They need somewhere to warehouse and occupy their kids while they work. The learning is secondary. And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. Schools serve a double function and our society and economy become structured on that.

I want teachers back because I need my 14 year old to have some structure and discipline in his learning environment. While I’m at work and he’s home alone I cannot trust he is focused on his work. I don’t need a babysitter I just need a structured environment set up for learning. Most people require that no matter the age. Not everyone is a self-learner. Heck, that’s why I want my gym to open too. I need the motivation and personal connection from the teacher and the energy and i yer action I get from other students not a video by myself in my basement. Not the same. I cannot even imagine what I myself would’ve learned if I was distance learning in high school. And then there’s the social aspect. I big part of “education” is working with others and interacting and interfacing with the other students.
That’s what I need for my child. Not a babysitter. I understand if it’s kindergarten or first grade. They will catch up. But the older kids are really missing out and falling behind. I can’t imagine being a rising senior in this situation preparing to apply for college.

[Anonymous]

I’m a teacher with a child in public PK. If school is 2 days a week for my child I will be taking leave 1-2 days a week (trading off with DH who also has to work). I know it’s disruptive but nannies and babysitters are expensive (and finding them will be challenging) and I need to do what’s best for my family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Just entice teachers with money like essential workers!! $13/hr extra is a lot of money.

Then those who wouldn't have stayed will unless it's 100% a health issue.

If there aren't enough teachers that'll mean even LESS learning. People do realize this right??

People don't actually care. They need somewhere to warehouse and occupy their kids while they work. The learning is secondary. And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. Schools serve a double function and our society and economy become structured on that.

Really? Isn’t that only apply for k-2 grades. My 3rd grader is fine all day home if I make some sandwiches and give them the tv remote.

But your third grader would be expected to do DL during that time. Isn’t that the complaint on DCUM, that even the upper ES kids need constant, in-person, direct adult intervention to learn via the computer?