Hogan vetoes kirwin tax increases

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Way to give an f-you to teachers and education. Disappointing but not surprising.

I agree not surprising - but really, in this climate the state budget is going to be hard enough to balance just to help people survive this pandemic, I can't really fault him.

Apparently the bill he vetoed, specifically included provisions for bad budgetary times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet another reason we are paying for private school.

Hogan's veto of the Kirwan bill (which just happened) is another reason you pay for private school?

DP but, yes, my kids not being victims to the political winds is part of why I pay for private.

Private schools are not untouched by the current economy...endowments are down, financial need is up, expenses are up.

[Anonymous]

Good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MD is one of the worst states in the country to open a business. It is difficult to grow the economy when obscene red tape and taxes crush new businesses from opening. You can thank all of those Democrat governors before for that.

MD also has rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. Schools are bursting at the seems because of sanctuary counties. Reap what you sow and voted for. Don't make my taxes increase because you want to pay to educate citizens of a completely different country.

and yet, we still have so many upper/middle class families moving into MoCo. And then there are those biotech and pharma companies here, some of which I think are working with covid vaccine. Weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet another reason we are paying for private school.

Hogan's veto of the Kirwan bill (which just happened) is another reason you pay for private school?

DP but, yes, my kids not being victims to the political winds is part of why I pay for private.

? You are paying highish taxes in Moco/MD AND paying for private? Good you can afford it, I guess. So, if the taxes do go up, and you continue to have your kid in private, then you're paying even more for someone other kid's education. Good for that kid I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet another reason we are paying for private school.

Hogan's veto of the Kirwan bill (which just happened) is another reason you pay for private school?

DP but, yes, my kids not being victims to the political winds is part of why I pay for private.

Private schools are not untouched by the current economy...endowments are down, financial need is up, expenses are up.

I know that. The curricula are still much better, though, and that’s what we are focused on. Also, we can—and have—looked up our school’s 990, so we can see what they have in reserves. If the school goes out of business (unlikely since they are still collecting tuition) we will switch to another private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Way to give an f-you to teachers and education. Disappointing but not surprising.

I agree not surprising - but really, in this climate the state budget is going to be hard enough to balance just to help people survive this pandemic, I can't really fault him.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet another reason we are paying for private school.

Hogan's veto of the Kirwan bill (which just happened) is another reason you pay for private school?

DP but, yes, my kids not being victims to the political winds is part of why I pay for private.

? You are paying highish taxes in Moco/MD AND paying for private? Good you can afford it, I guess. So, if the taxes do go up, and you continue to have your kid in private, then you're paying even more for someone other kid's education. Good for that kid I guess.

Nah, we still benefit from the property values. You have to pay taxes anywhere, so why are you calling out doing so in MD? In the states with lower taxes, the private school options usually aren’t worth it.

[Anonymous]

Good. We can't afford Kirwin. The state and county taxes are already some of the highest in the nation. Add to that the huge costs that we bear from the pandemic response (from setting up the field hospital in the Baltimore Convention Center, the additional beds in the hotel next door, the Covid-19 tests just acquired from S Korea, etc). And the fact that most of the state residents are not working. The state is paying out unemployment and not collecting tax revenues from a huge portion of the population. The Kirwin commission recommendations are expected to cost $4B annually to implement.
So, the state has burned through their reserves and is going to have severely depleted tax revenue, where do the supporters think that the money for the Kirwin recommendations is going to come from? You want to raise taxes on businesses that have closed their doors, but are still paying employees for months? There are a ton of small businesses that have already gone under and lots more that will go under before we reopen. If you raise taxes, you are going to force some middle sized companies to also shut their doors for good.

You can't bleed a corpse. Some of you need to get your heads out of the clouds and pay attention to the cold hard facts. Maryland is going to have a big problem next year with the budget. There are going to have to be cuts across the board because they won't be able to afford the budget as it was. There is no way that the state will be able to afford $4B in any of the next 2-3 years (at least).

[Anonymous]

Hogan vetoed every spending and tax bill, not just this one. Good job -- he sees we're in for a big economic downturn, and this is not the time to spend on more projects. I dont' know about other school districts in MD, but MCPS has already revamped their curriculum multiple times. Why not just stick with it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hogan vetoed every spending and tax bill, not just this one. Good job -- he sees we're in for a big economic downturn, and this is not the time to spend on more projects. I dont' know about other school districts in MD, but MCPS has already revamped their curriculum multiple times. Why not just stick with it?

Hogan vetoed a ban on chlorpyrifos, too. Because what Maryland really needs during a big economic downturn is continued use of a pesticide that poisons children and the environment.

[Anonymous]

Wish people would realize teachers unions have relatively little power in Maryland because it’s a “right to fire” state.

Maryland needs universal pre-K but at this rate it will never happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wish people would realize teachers unions have relatively little power in Maryland because it’s a “right to fire” state.

Maryland needs universal pre-K but at this rate it will never happen.

At this point (even without COVID) the state would need to drastically cut or eliminate government employee pensions or drastically raise taxes to afford universal pre-K. It's a boondoggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wish people would realize teachers unions have relatively little power in Maryland because it’s a “right to fire” state.

Maryland needs universal pre-K but at this rate it will never happen.

Umm, the union seems to have a lot of power in MCPS. The Apple ballot rules in the board of Ed elections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wish people would realize teachers unions have relatively little power in Maryland because it’s a “right to fire” state.

Maryland needs universal pre-K but at this rate it will never happen.

No, it won’t because we simply can’t afford it. We are going to have no choice but to cut a lot of government programs/services. It sure isn’t the time to add a very large expense. And ignoring expense, at a time when we are trying to create greater space in schools, adding one or two more grades would have the exact opposite result of making schools far more crowded.