Does Maryland stay at home order apply to nannies?

[Anonymous]

I read it as nannies are still permitted as long as they go from their house to your house.

Our's is still working - I asked her if her friends are and she said 100% are still working.

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Anonymous wrote:What is with all the nay-sayers? My nanny lives alone and only goes between our house and hers. I'm a small business owner trying to keep business rolling (accounting) so that I don't have to fire people and contribute to unemployment. My husband works for DOD. If our nanny has no more exposure coming to our house and allowing us to our jobs and we are doing a tiny little part in keeping the economy rolling why do you care if she stays home or not?

You do realize you represent only a single data point right? Not everyone's nanny lives alone. Not everyone's nanny is young and healthy. Not everyone's nanny drives a car. Not everyone who employs a nanny is essential. Not everyone who employs a nanny runs a business. MANY people are working remotely right now from home, and those people dont need childcare. You should only be asking your nanny to come to work in cases where her working is TRULY essential, allowing you to do work that is essential.

And truthfully, you dont sound like someone who fits that definition. Two able-bodied adults working at home should be able to also supervise their children.

But that is just not what the order says though. It's your personal interpretation of what people "should be" doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to find ways around this! Unless you are essential, and need childcare so that you can physically go to work to provide an essential service, you should stay at home and your nanny should stay at home.

That you are asking this question means you're probably not essential, you likely know your nanny should be staying at home, and you're trying to avoid the inconvenience of watching your kid while you work remotely. Stop it. Be a decent human being.

Genuine question. Where does it say you have to be both essential AND have to physically go to work in order to provide the essential service? For example, payroll and accounting services are listed as essential. You don't need to physically go to work to provide those, but they ARE essential.

I'm not talking about the gymnastics people are engaging in to define themselves as essential. If you can do your job at home, you should be at home. If you are at home, your kids dont need childcare. Plain and simple.

Gymnastics? There's literally a list on the governor's website. What are you seeing that I'm not?

If I do not have childcare, I cannot make myself available during business hours. Unfortunately, my 17 month old and 3 year old just haven't yet learned to supervise themselves.

What exactly do you think the rest of us are doing? People are working AND watching their kids. It is possible you lazy lump of a person.

And clearly that's working out great for you, you little ray of sunshine Deep breaths, PP!

Make jokes all you like. People are DYING because people like won't just stay apart and at home. DYING. When you find yourself burying your parents or your spouse, will you find that it was worth it to skirt the edges of the rules rather than just doing what you know needs to be done?

[Anonymous]

There's a lot of vitriol on this thread...wow!

OP, "care of a minor" is generally considered an essential service. You are your nanny's employer, her place of work is your home, so it does comply with the order to have her come.

In terms of risk mitigation, I think it comes down to how much you trust that she is self-isolating. From an epidemiological perspective, a nanny who lives alone and is practicing social distancing to a tee is pretty much part of your "domestic unit". If you have space and she's up for it, you could have her move in to really minimize the risks...but I suspect you are fine either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of vitriol on this thread...wow!

OP, "care of a minor" is generally considered an essential service. You are your nanny's employer, her place of work is your home, so it does comply with the order to have her come.

In terms of risk mitigation, I think it comes down to how much you trust that she is self-isolating. From an epidemiological perspective, a nanny who lives alone and is practicing social distancing to a tee is pretty much part of your "domestic unit". If you have space and she's up for it, you could have her move in to really minimize the risks...but I suspect you are fine either way.

Thank you for this thoughtful response.

[Anonymous]

Omg. If Justin Trudeau can run Canada at home with his 3 kids and childcare (and wife with covid), you can figure out a way to live without your nanny.

Childcare is for essential persons only. And “essential” doesn’t mean your job is fancy or important, it just means you MUST leave your hiOuse.

www.mother.ly/amp/justin-trudeau-is-running-a-country-from-home-without-childcare-2645575056

[Anonymous]

^^ no childcare. He has no childcare. His wife is now better btw and they still will not have childcare or cleaning services to set an example for the country.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of vitriol on this thread...wow!

OP, "care of a minor" is generally considered an essential service. You are your nanny's employer, her place of work is your home, so it does comply with the order to have her come.

In terms of risk mitigation, I think it comes down to how much you trust that she is self-isolating. From an epidemiological perspective, a nanny who lives alone and is practicing social distancing to a tee is pretty much part of your "domestic unit". If you have space and she's up for it, you could have her move in to really minimize the risks...but I suspect you are fine either way.

I agree with this vitriol. unbelivable.

PP, do you know where we can find this interpretation. I want to be sure we are not breaking the law. I have not been able to find this interpretation (one way or another), and the 'board' all just all about people screaming 'no no no you spoiled brat.'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of vitriol on this thread...wow!

OP, "care of a minor" is generally considered an essential service. You are your nanny's employer, her place of work is your home, so it does comply with the order to have her come.

In terms of risk mitigation, I think it comes down to how much you trust that she is self-isolating. From an epidemiological perspective, a nanny who lives alone and is practicing social distancing to a tee is pretty much part of your "domestic unit". If you have space and she's up for it, you could have her move in to really minimize the risks...but I suspect you are fine either way.

+1. This is my perspective as well. I think people who can avoid being on unemployment should. I just got off of maternity leave and have no leave and three under 5. If I had to take unpaid leave than I couldn't pay my nanny and that is two more people on unemployment. We are trying to make our two households a closed unit. We only leave to get produce/milk once a week

[Anonymous]

There’s vitriol because a lot of us are suffering immensely in order to help save lives, while others seem to think only about themselves and their own personal exposure.

We offered our nanny the opportunity to move in 2 weeks ago and she said no. We are paying her, though she isn’t coming. She has said recently that if this lasts longer than a month or so she’s going to consider moving in with us (and we’ll pay her extra for the extra hours and inconvenience).

People with au pairs are fortunate right now.

But someone leaving the house daily, even if just to go home and back, is not the strict social distancing we need. It’s frustrating when people try to find a way around the rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s vitriol because a lot of us are suffering immensely in order to help save lives, while others seem to think only about themselves and their own personal exposure.

We offered our nanny the opportunity to move in 2 weeks ago and she said no. We are paying her, though she isn’t coming. She has said recently that if this lasts longer than a month or so she’s going to consider moving in with us (and we’ll pay her extra for the extra hours and inconvenience).

People with au pairs are fortunate right now.

But someone leaving the house daily, even if just to go home and back, is not the strict social distancing we need. It’s frustrating when people try to find a way around the rules.

my spouse is a doc on the front lines here. i may not see him for the next few weeks but that is besides the point. we are praying he stays healthy. i work and carry our health insurance. we are all suffering immensely. this is not a game to see who is suffering the most. it is about understanding the letter and the spirit and figuring out how to operate within them.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to find ways around this! Unless you are essential, and need childcare so that you can physically go to work to provide an essential service, you should stay at home and your nanny should stay at home.

That you are asking this question means you're probably not essential, you likely know your nanny should be staying at home, and you're trying to avoid the inconvenience of watching your kid while you work remotely. Stop it. Be a decent human being.

Genuine question. Where does it say you have to be both essential AND have to physically go to work in order to provide the essential service? For example, payroll and accounting services are listed as essential. You don't need to physically go to work to provide those, but they ARE essential.

I'm not talking about the gymnastics people are engaging in to define themselves as essential. If you can do your job at home, you should be at home. If you are at home, your kids dont need childcare. Plain and simple.

Gymnastics? There's literally a list on the governor's website. What are you seeing that I'm not?

If I do not have childcare, I cannot make myself available during business hours. Unfortunately, my 17 month old and 3 year old just haven't yet learned to supervise themselves.

What exactly do you think the rest of us are doing? People are working AND watching their kids. It is possible you lazy lump of a person.

And clearly that's working out great for you, you little ray of sunshine Deep breaths, PP!

Make jokes all you like. People are DYING because people like won't just stay apart and at home. DYING. When you find yourself burying your parents or your spouse, will you find that it was worth it to skirt the edges of the rules rather than just doing what you know needs to be done?

I'm going to stop responding to you after this because it just seems like you are looking for a place to vent your rage, rather than have a discussion. Save your anger for the president, who not only allowed things to get to this point, but just last week was saying he'd have everyone back in church by Easter, or people like my neighbors who are still having block parties and letting their kids play together. You don't know my actual situation and you don't actually care, so please find someone else to target.

The official order is on the governor's website. I've posted the link below. It still lists caregiving as an essential service.

Caring for a family member, friend, pet, or livestock in another household or location, including, without limitation, transporting a family member, friend, pet, or livestock animal for essential health and safety activities,
and to obtain necessary supplies and services;

And even for non-essential businesses, it states:

staff and owners of Non-Essential Businesses (defined below) may travel:
1. between their Homes and those Non-Essential Businesses for the purpose of engaging in Minimal Operations; and
2. to and from customers for the purpose of delivering goods.

https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Gatherings-FOURTH-AMENDED-3.30.20.pdf

[Anonymous]

Yes, childcare is considered essential service. You are fine to have your nanny come back and forth. Doesn’t matter what your job is or whether you WFH or not.

I think some of the more vitriolic posters had kids in daycare and are pissed off that others have easier childcare situations right now. They want everyone to be in the same miserable boat as them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s vitriol because a lot of us are suffering immensely in order to help save lives, while others seem to think only about themselves and their own personal exposure.

We offered our nanny the opportunity to move in 2 weeks ago and she said no. We are paying her, though she isn’t coming. She has said recently that if this lasts longer than a month or so she’s going to consider moving in with us (and we’ll pay her extra for the extra hours and inconvenience).

People with au pairs are fortunate right now.

But someone leaving the house daily, even if just to go home and back, is not the strict social distancing we need. It’s frustrating when people try to find a way around the rules.

Here are the rules. They clearly state even non-essential business employees are allowed to go back and forth between homes and businesses in order to sustain minimal operations. So no, people are not finding ways "around" the rules.

https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Gatherings-FOURTH-AMENDED-3.30.20.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, childcare is considered essential service. You are fine to have your nanny come back and forth. Doesn’t matter what your job is or whether you WFH or not.

I think some of the more vitriolic posters had kids in daycare and are pissed off that others have easier childcare situations right now. They want everyone to be in the same miserable boat as them.

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