Harvard closing for rest of semester

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:THis will kill the college towns and the workers in college towns who survive off of the students.


Choose words carefully. There is a difference between being out of work... and being DEAD because no one closed anything and hospitals can't cope. One is reversible, the other isn't.

And lose the economic argument, already. The economy is going to get a much bigger hit, and more people are going to lose jobs, if we can't get this under control rapidly. Rapid control means closures and quarantines for the time being.

Short term pain, long term gain. Something so many people have trouble understanding.



Anonymous
My DH is a professor at one of these universities. It is going to be a giant PITA and worse for the students, because Zoom etc. don't lead to good classroom discussion. He hates just lecturing. He'll try to interact as much as possible, but it's a sad thing for the students who pay a lot for their education and deserve the full experience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't help but wonder if they are itching to try out off site learning. It is a great excuse for an experiment.


No way. Campuses that don't routinely deliver courses online the ways public universities do are not prepared for this technically, and faculty isn't trained. It takes different and specific preparation to deliver a class online, and shifting gears with 2-3 days to prepare is not ideal.

A major university would want to pilot this first, and then train faculty.


Right no one would accept this type of experiment under other circumstances. I bet there is more capability than you think too. My son goes to a small private school (not ivy level) and most lectures are available on line for review or make up. He says some teachers will use that if they are sick or??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Students will begin online classes after spring break (March 23). Students must be out of dorms by March 15.


Harvard is returning part of the tuition, correct?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is good. Prevention of spreading the virus is the best thing we can do for ourselves.


+1

Does it lead to prevention, though? Won't the students now be off to other places, but still out and about? Maybe more so because no longer tied to going to classes and their college campuses. I'm just not sure?


They probably don't want them living in close proximity in dorms then spreading their germs to other people in the towns or cities.
Anonymous
I can't begin to imagine the PITA for these students. What about families unprepared/unable to house students?
And what about foreign students? What about 3rd worlders? Are they supposed to travel home and hope for some sort of reliable internet connection? I think everyone should get their tuition reimbursed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is good. Prevention of spreading the virus is the best thing we can do for ourselves.


+1

Does it lead to prevention, though? Won't the students now be off to other places, but still out and about? Maybe more so because no longer tied to going to classes and their college campuses. I'm just not sure?


They probably don't want them living in close proximity in dorms then spreading their germs to other people in the towns or cities.


Or going home to places like Seattle for break, and bringing the virus back with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't begin to imagine the PITA for these students. What about families unprepared/unable to house students?
And what about foreign students? What about 3rd worlders? Are they supposed to travel home and hope for some sort of reliable internet connection? I think everyone should get their tuition reimbursed.


Well probably better than quarantined in a dorm without a kitchen for 3-6 months
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't begin to imagine the PITA for these students. What about families unprepared/unable to house students?
And what about foreign students? What about 3rd worlders? Are they supposed to travel home and hope for some sort of reliable internet connection? I think everyone should get their tuition reimbursed.


The universities that have taken this step are allowing students who cannot leave to stay. It's on a case by case basis. They know that unplanned travel is going to be a disruption, but they want to reduce the number of people on campus.

No tuition is going to be reimbursed because they are (technically) still allowing students to earn credit toward a degree.

A student from UMD who is now under self-quarantine at her permanent residence (returned from Italy) says she will get zero reimbursement for tuition or housing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't help but wonder if they are itching to try out off site learning. It is a great excuse for an experiment.


No way. Campuses that don't routinely deliver courses online the ways public universities do are not prepared for this technically, and faculty isn't trained. It takes different and specific preparation to deliver a class online, and shifting gears with 2-3 days to prepare is not ideal.

A major university would want to pilot this first, and then train faculty.


You are way out of touch if you think most universities don't already do this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't help but wonder if they are itching to try out off site learning. It is a great excuse for an experiment.


No way. Campuses that don't routinely deliver courses online the ways public universities do are not prepared for this technically, and faculty isn't trained. It takes different and specific preparation to deliver a class online, and shifting gears with 2-3 days to prepare is not ideal.

A major university would want to pilot this first, and then train faculty.


You are way out of touch if you think most universities don't already do this.


Universities - yes. My DH teaches at UMD and some of his classes are 100% online, some are blended and some are 100% in person.

My kid's small liberal arts college - nothing is done online save for syllabus and assignment postings and submission of papers.
Anonymous
UMD is also expanding server space and so forth to deal with POTENTIAL increased demand on its online learning platform if UMD goes to online learning for all.

As it is npw, all faculty have file size limits to contend with depending on whether their class is delivered wholly or partially online.
Anonymous
Harvard parent here.
We were all blindsided by this. Everyone is scrambling to figure out what to do.
A reimbursement for room and board would be very nice but I'm not holding my breath onthat.
Just wonder if this is just the tip of the iceberg and everything else will shut down too.
Harvard does have a pretty prestigious school of public health...
Anonymous
I have a kid who plays team sports at one of the schools mentioned here. We haven't yet heard whether kids will be allowed to return to campus and attend spring practice. Anyone know?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid who plays team sports at one of the schools mentioned here. We haven't yet heard whether kids will be allowed to return to campus and attend spring practice. Anyone know?


I don't know. My son is in a similar situation.

Amherst cancelled all spring sports.

We are hoping once everybody else is gone they will let Spring Sports go on, classes online and no using the locker room.
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