Boys development academies - I'm clueless and need help

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

oh--this isn't DA. We did DA with my oldest and were not happy with the level of training.

[Anonymous]

Yet another thread jacking. How predictable!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

What club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

What club?

That sounds like one of the Barca US club admins. They do a good amount of marketing on here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

What club?

That sounds like one of the Barca US club admins. They do a good amount of marketing on here.

You are so full of it, delusional and should be ashamed of yourself. Most don't even speak English natively. You don't like the fact that some families are happy with the Barca experience, and having Barca at Evergreen (or maybe even having them take some players) has gotten under your skin. Get over it, and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

What club?

That sounds like one of the Barca US club admins. They do a good amount of marketing on here.

You are so full of it, delusional and should be ashamed of yourself. Most don't even speak English natively. You don't like the fact that some families are happy with the Barca experience, and having Barca at Evergreen (or maybe even having them take some players) has gotten under your skin. Get over it, and move on.

Lmao, I’m a DP but the company who owns this venture is completely American and the owner is very articulate in the English language. There are also a few pretty rabid and vocal American parents who contribute.

And make no mistake, this is a thread jacking, presuming the Barca marketer didn’t actually start the thread as bait for the change in discussion. That has happened with numerous threads here also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

What club?

That sounds like one of the Barca US club admins. They do a good amount of marketing on here.

You are so full of it, delusional and should be ashamed of yourself. Most don't even speak English natively. You don't like the fact that some families are happy with the Barca experience, and having Barca at Evergreen (or maybe even having them take some players) has gotten under your skin. Get over it, and move on.

Lmao, I’m a DP but the company who owns this venture is completely American and the owner is very articulate in the English language. There are also a few pretty rabid and vocal American parents who contribute.

And make no mistake, this is a thread jacking, presuming the Barca marketer didn’t actually start the thread as bait for the change in discussion. That has happened with numerous threads here also.

LMAO because you are full of it. The only one marketing anything is you people. No one eve brought Barca up until you clowns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
While the A and B license may take time to get, there is no evidence anywhere that they make a coach a better coach. US Soccer doesn't offer enough courses and gives preference to coaches from DA clubs making the licensing system more useful for protecting the status quo than for improving coaching. Acceptance into A/B license courses is not based on the merit of the individual coach. Saying DA coaching and the DA system is better is one person's opinion and can't be backed up by any evidence. Since the DA was created to support the USMNT, the quality of the USMNT should be a pretty good indicator of the quality of the DA--a country of over 300 million that can't qualify for the world cup. If anything the evidence suggests DA coaching is subpar, not "consistently good."

OK, many have UEFA A or B Licenses. Does that satisfy you? UEFA sent 14 teams to the last World Cup, including all four semifinalists.

What is the evidence you use to judge the competency and professionalism of a youth soccer coach? More importantly, what evidence do you use to judge the competency and professionalism of coaching at an entire club, since individual coaches come and go? My guess is that your answer is some version of "you know it when you see it". But people--like the OP--need something they can look at from outside, before they join a club. So you need something objective.

Licenses are objective. Who has good facilities is objective. Who retains their top players is objective. Who sends players to college soccer is objective. To some degree who wins big competitions is objective. It is possible to assess a club and their system fairly accurately without having to experience it first. You seem to imply that it isn't actually possible--or at least don't give any alternatives about how you'd suggest doing it.

Different Poster here. Every Coach at our Club has a UEFA A or UEFA B license as a minimum. The coaching is superior to anything we've seen. I'm generally not that big on the licenses holding that much weight because I know some really great coaches that have the lowest USSF licenses, but when I watch how thought out and different the training drills are from other places--there is something to it. Intelligence is being taught in the drills. There is no standing around-ever. There is also no running laps or wind sprints, but the kids come off exhausted because the full 90 minutes was used moving--hard. There is variety week to week and in all my years playing and watching practices drills I've never seen most of these prior. I just watched U15s scrimmage with neutral players and everyone had to play with their arms fully clasped behind their backs. I've seen our goalies train on tarps with hoses making them slick so the ball comes in faster and slicker. Every goal has additional goalie training--all age groups together 3 days per week in addition to their regular team practice---from the youngest to the oldest. I've seen kids at the younger ages doing numerical drills that would stump much older kids. Each day of the week is something new they are working on and as you watch the age groups they are similarly working on the same concepts---the difference is the complexity and layers as they age upwards.

What club?

That sounds like one of the Barca US club admins. They do a good amount of marketing on here.

You are so full of it, delusional and should be ashamed of yourself. Most don't even speak English natively. You don't like the fact that some families are happy with the Barca experience, and having Barca at Evergreen (or maybe even having them take some players) has gotten under your skin. Get over it, and move on.

Lmao, I’m a DP but the company who owns this venture is completely American and the owner is very articulate in the English language. There are also a few pretty rabid and vocal American parents who contribute.

And make no mistake, this is a thread jacking, presuming the Barca marketer didn’t actually start the thread as bait for the change in discussion. That has happened with numerous threads here also.

LMAO because you are full of it. The only one marketing anything is you people. No one eve brought Barca up until you clowns.

um, yeah, right. Ok. Deep breaths, four seconds in, hold, four seconds out.

[Anonymous]

Good lord. I am a parent and I wrote that post and I did not even mention the name of the Club, partly because of this poster that attacks every post where somebody says something good about a Club and accuses them of being a Club official—BRYC, Alexandria, MU, FCV. I didn’t even name the Club—yet he’s out on attack with the crazy accusations. Who are you affiliated with angry man? NHC FC -the never happy Club? Tough way to go through life.

[Anonymous]

How is Bethesda's DA compared to DC United? The first post did not mention Bethesda having a DA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is Bethesda's DA compared to DC United? The first post did not mention Bethesda having a DA.

One is in Maryland.
One is TBD

I mean, in all honesty that's probably the bigger consideration. It is a hike and a half to get from either team's cachement area to the others such that many of the boys in those programs are limited by the commute.

How's the scoreline? You can just look at the results. DCU 14 & 15 teams beat Bethesda. Bethesda 16 & 18 teams beat DCU. Meh.

But as the split in the DA program continues between the DA Tier One and Tier Two, you'll start to see some pulling away I suspect. Bethesda is in Tier 1 now, but they have a very very strong older team and not sure how long they'll remain if the MLS-backers push harder and harder for a formal split.

(By the way, one of DCU's teams lost 78-0 to the Montreal MLS side, which was interesting.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/regevent/index.php?containerId=MTE1ODQ4MjA%3D&partialGames=1

[Anonymous]

Oops, 7-0. Typo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oops, 7-0. Typo

Yeah, but I got a good giggle out of 78-0! they probably felt like it was 78-0. They got crushed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oops, 7-0. Typo

Yeah, but I got a good giggle out of 78-0! they probably felt like it was 78-0. They got crushed

Me too! I nearly fell out of my chair. I was thinking that's a basketball score.