Overriding local zoning to allow multi-family units in suburban neighborhoods in VA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is when the state overrides the local ordinances.

Kind like how states love it when the feds tell them what to do....

Govt should be local...

Why is that a problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is when the state overrides the local ordinances.

Kind like how states love it when the feds tell them what to do....

Govt should be local...

Why is that a problem?

Possibly an unfunded mandate. Can localities build schools or add to existing infrastructure fast enough to match the increase in population that could happen if anyone can build an extra housing unit wherever they want?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The daily caller is a racist propaganda rag. Try linking to a more respectable source if you want your conversation to be taken seriously.

No it is not. Nice try though.

[Anonymous]

I have no issues with duplexes as long as there is sufficient off street parking and reasonable lot occupancy standards, such that they would have yards and space for trees. I really want more trees and less clear cutting of lots. Some lots would be big enough for this. Many wouldn't be.

[Anonymous]

First, this isn’t going to pass. In the end, Republicans in more rural areas (where lack of housing isn’t much of an issue) aren’t going to feel compelled to vote for it, and instead will beat the drum of big government Democrats to shore up support in their own jurisdictions. And Democrats in higher-population areas will be reluctant to give more control to Richmond after years of having Richmond Republicans frustrate every effort to address local issues (Arlington couldn’t even pass an ordinance to reduce predatory towing with Republicans from other parts of the state getting involved to block it).

Second, even if it did pass, it would potentially create more problems than it would solve by reinforcing and exacerbating housing segregation. Looking at Arlington (since Mother Jones called it out in particular), if this were to pass, you’re not going to see a rash of duplexes built in 22207 because the economics simply don’t make sense, except maybe on the SFH lots right on Lee Highway where no one wants to buy a SFH. No one will gamble on buying an $800k lot to build two $900k duplexes in a non-walkable part of North Arlington instead of a $1.6 million SFH (margins will be thinner on duplexes than SFHs) when prospective buyers can spend less to get a SFH in South Arlington or slightly more to get a nice townhouse in very walkable Clarendon/Courthouse. Instead, developers will concentrate them in South Arlington where the land is cheaper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is when the state overrides the local ordinances.

Kind like how states love it when the feds tell them what to do....

Govt should be local...

Why is that a problem?

Possibly an unfunded mandate. Can localities build schools or add to existing infrastructure fast enough to match the increase in population that could happen if anyone can build an extra housing unit wherever they want?

No, it's not an unfunded mandate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, this isn’t going to pass. In the end, Republicans in more rural areas (where lack of housing isn’t much of an issue) aren’t going to feel compelled to vote for it, and instead will beat the drum of big government Democrats to shore up support in their own jurisdictions. And Democrats in higher-population areas will be reluctant to give more control to Richmond after years of having Richmond Republicans frustrate every effort to address local issues (Arlington couldn’t even pass an ordinance to reduce predatory towing with Republicans from other parts of the state getting involved to block it).

Second, even if it did pass, it would potentially create more problems than it would solve by reinforcing and exacerbating housing segregation. Looking at Arlington (since Mother Jones called it out in particular), if this were to pass, you’re not going to see a rash of duplexes built in 22207 because the economics simply don’t make sense, except maybe on the SFH lots right on Lee Highway where no one wants to buy a SFH. No one will gamble on buying an $800k lot to build two $900k duplexes in a non-walkable part of North Arlington instead of a $1.6 million SFH (margins will be thinner on duplexes than SFHs) when prospective buyers can spend less to get a SFH in South Arlington or slightly more to get a nice townhouse in very walkable Clarendon/Courthouse. Instead, developers will concentrate them in South Arlington where the land is cheaper.

Allowing property owners to build duplexes, if they choose to do so - that's "big government"? Huh. I would have thought it's property rights.

[Anonymous]

You get what you vote for. LMAO as Virginia continues its race to the bottom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The daily caller is a racist propaganda rag. Try linking to a more respectable source if you want your conversation to be taken seriously.

No it is not. Nice try though.

What? Of course it is. It’s garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, this isn’t going to pass. In the end, Republicans in more rural areas (where lack of housing isn’t much of an issue) aren’t going to feel compelled to vote for it, and instead will beat the drum of big government Democrats to shore up support in their own jurisdictions. And Democrats in higher-population areas will be reluctant to give more control to Richmond after years of having Richmond Republicans frustrate every effort to address local issues (Arlington couldn’t even pass an ordinance to reduce predatory towing with Republicans from other parts of the state getting involved to block it).

Second, even if it did pass, it would potentially create more problems than it would solve by reinforcing and exacerbating housing segregation. Looking at Arlington (since Mother Jones called it out in particular), if this were to pass, you’re not going to see a rash of duplexes built in 22207 because the economics simply don’t make sense, except maybe on the SFH lots right on Lee Highway where no one wants to buy a SFH. No one will gamble on buying an $800k lot to build two $900k duplexes in a non-walkable part of North Arlington instead of a $1.6 million SFH (margins will be thinner on duplexes than SFHs) when prospective buyers can spend less to get a SFH in South Arlington or slightly more to get a nice townhouse in very walkable Clarendon/Courthouse. Instead, developers will concentrate them in South Arlington where the land is cheaper.

Allowing property owners to build duplexes, if they choose to do so - that's "big government"? Huh. I would have thought it's property rights.

You assume they’re principled, which they’re not. They will frame it as big-government Democrats trying to dictate from Richmond what localities should be allowed to do with their own local zoning laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for. LMAO as Virginia continues its race to the bottom.

Yet another thing they’ll still be second fiddle to MD at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for. LMAO as Virginia continues its race to the bottom.

Yet another thing they’ll still be second fiddle to MD at.

MD is in steep decline. VA may get there, but MD has about a 20 year head start.

[Anonymous]

Ugh I hate this idea.
Why don’t the new Ds (who I voted for) focus on the stuff most people want that has been stuck - gun control gun control gun control) rather than these extremist policies.

Going too far left will absolutely result in an R governor. See Maryland.

[Anonymous]

We need more affordable housing in Northern VA, and it should be spread out, not concentrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need more affordable housing in Northern VA, and it should be spread out, not concentrated.

Could builders be incentivized to build duplexes and triplexes? I'd support it. I will point out that some of these neighborhoods already have some varied housing like townhouses and apartments. My biggest question is does it make sense for the poorer people if there is no infrastructure to support them like public transportation and affordable food options.