Hopkins joins MIT and Cal Tech and UC system: Alumni children get no preference

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just because a MIT doesn't provide a preference/tip/hook for legacy applicants doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of legacy students there. Notice that they don't report any data on legacy, including how many just happen to have had a parent or other relative who attended. I have a limited data set, but MIT is the most common destination of the children of the MIT alums I know (30-40% of their kids). Most of the advantages of legacy (and faculty brats) are the socio-economic privileges of being the scion of well-to-do, highly educated parents. For the same reason, legacy at Harvard or any other elite college are some of the most qualified applicants and they would be greatly over represented anyways.

I went to MIT and only have one friend from my time there who was a 3rd generation MIT alum. Some people had other hooks (Patreus' son, Treasury Sec's son, Professor's daughter, etc.). I went to high school with the granddaughter of a famous MIT alum and her parents were alums but she didn't even apply thinking her stats weren't good enough. I feel like a lot of people, especially women, don't even apply and think it's an unfriendly environment. Don't get me wrong, its brutal. But definitely one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Best people I've ever met.

You enjoyed it because you fit in. Many people do not fit in - EVEN if their parent is a professor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for them, although boo to whoever designed that nausea-inducing webpage.

+1 OMG that website

[Anonymous]

Just because a MIT doesn't provide a preference/tip/hook for legacy applicants doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of legacy students there. Notice that they don't report any data on legacy, including how many just happen to have had a parent or other relative who attended. I have a limited data set, but MIT is the most common destination of the children of the MIT alums I know (30-40% of their kids). Most of the advantages of legacy (and faculty brats) are the socio-economic privileges of being the scion of well-to-do, highly educated parents.

Are you saying it's possible to buy your way into MIT? Color me skeptical. They don't seem like the kind of place that will let you in if you don't have the smarts but your parents have piles of money.

The "advantage" of being the child of an MIT alum is not their money, but genetics. Smart parents tend to have smart kids.

[Anonymous]

Good news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Just because a MIT doesn't provide a preference/tip/hook for legacy applicants doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of legacy students there. Notice that they don't report any data on legacy, including how many just happen to have had a parent or other relative who attended. I have a limited data set, but MIT is the most common destination of the children of the MIT alums I know (30-40% of their kids). Most of the advantages of legacy (and faculty brats) are the socio-economic privileges of being the scion of well-to-do, highly educated parents.

Are you saying it's possible to buy your way into MIT? Color me skeptical. They don't seem like the kind of place that will let you in if you don't have the smarts but your parents have piles of money.

The "advantage" of being the child of an MIT alum is not their money, but genetics. Smart parents tend to have smart kids.

NP: I dunno--they looked past Jeffrey Epstein's record and let his wacky pseudo-science influence the Media Lab so I don't think they get some special disinterested meritocracy pass. But I don't think it's the case that you'd get in without the gpa/sat, rather that when there's 100 kids with requisite GPA/SATs for 1 slot there may be side ways for legacy to give a leg up. I honestly don't know.

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Hopefully my alma mater doesn't do this, or I'll pull my donation pledge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because a MIT doesn't provide a preference/tip/hook for legacy applicants doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of legacy students there. Notice that they don't report any data on legacy, including how many just happen to have had a parent or other relative who attended. I have a limited data set, but MIT is the most common destination of the children of the MIT alums I know (30-40% of their kids). Most of the advantages of legacy (and faculty brats) are the socio-economic privileges of being the scion of well-to-do, highly educated parents. For the same reason, legacy at Harvard or any other elite college are some of the most qualified applicants and they would be greatly over represented anyways.

I went to MIT and only have one friend from my time there who was a 3rd generation MIT alum. Some people had other hooks (Patreus' son, Treasury Sec's son, Professor's daughter, etc.). I went to high school with the granddaughter of a famous MIT alum and her parents were alums but she didn't even apply thinking her stats weren't good enough. I feel like a lot of people, especially women, don't even apply and think it's an unfriendly environment. Don't get me wrong, its brutal. But definitely one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Best people I've ever met.

I think these poor kids are so wiped out after high school. Who wants another go around for 4+ years? Not the ones that don't care for the name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully my alma mater doesn't do this, or I'll pull my donation pledge.

what's the difference between you buying your kid's way in and what Lori Loughlin and that crew did? Let me guess.. one is legal (only because rich people decided that should be legal), and the other isn't (clearly, they were not rich enough).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because a MIT doesn't provide a preference/tip/hook for legacy applicants doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of legacy students there. Notice that they don't report any data on legacy, including how many just happen to have had a parent or other relative who attended. I have a limited data set, but MIT is the most common destination of the children of the MIT alums I know (30-40% of their kids). Most of the advantages of legacy (and faculty brats) are the socio-economic privileges of being the scion of well-to-do, highly educated parents. For the same reason, legacy at Harvard or any other elite college are some of the most qualified applicants and they would be greatly over represented anyways.

I went to MIT and only have one friend from my time there who was a 3rd generation MIT alum. Some people had other hooks (Patreus' son, Treasury Sec's son, Professor's daughter, etc.). I went to high school with the granddaughter of a famous MIT alum and her parents were alums but she didn't even apply thinking her stats weren't good enough. I feel like a lot of people, especially women, don't even apply and think it's an unfriendly environment. Don't get me wrong, its brutal. But definitely one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Best people I've ever met.

I think these poor kids are so wiped out after high school. Who wants another go around for 4+ years? Not the ones that don't care for the name.

I think that's why this system sucks. These kids worked so hard, yet because they don't have the hook, they won't be able to get in, whereas the kids of the alma mater may not have worked so hard, but just road their parents' coattails. I'm betting these same parents who use their connections would balk at any kind of affirmative action by SES or race though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully my alma mater doesn't do this, or I'll pull my donation pledge.

what's the difference between you buying your kid's way in and what Lori Loughlin and that crew did? Let me guess.. one is legal (only because rich people decided that should be legal), and the other isn't (clearly, they were not rich enough).

This statement is Stupid-On-Purpose, which is the worst kind of stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MIT do recruit athletes

No. they don't but Hopkins does.

Yes they do - my DC was approached

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Just because a MIT doesn't provide a preference/tip/hook for legacy applicants doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of legacy students there. Notice that they don't report any data on legacy, including how many just happen to have had a parent or other relative who attended. I have a limited data set, but MIT is the most common destination of the children of the MIT alums I know (30-40% of their kids). Most of the advantages of legacy (and faculty brats) are the socio-economic privileges of being the scion of well-to-do, highly educated parents.

Are you saying it's possible to buy your way into MIT? Color me skeptical. They don't seem like the kind of place that will let you in if you don't have the smarts but your parents have piles of money.

The "advantage" of being the child of an MIT alum is not their money, but genetics. Smart parents tend to have smart kids.

Amazing how many people fail to understand this.