What do you think of the kids on Scholarship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a small club and every team kind of has their own budget. We try to keep costs down as there are many families on the team that struggle to pay the $2K+ fees. There are at least two full scholarship players. I know of one of them. The problem I have is that the scholarship player that I know of will miss a lot of practices. No-show at a random game. And he's definitely in the lower 4th ability wise. It bothers me that he gets a scholarship where we could use that scholarship on someone that would be at every practice. Every game. etc. I think this particular scholarship or two allows families to be less invested in the team. If we had a paying player in that spot, we would be able to add a tournament or two maybe add winter futsal or add more winter indoor training. etc. I think scholarships should not only be based on financial need but also commitment, value to the team, etc. But in general, scholarships are necessary. Soccer shouldn't be a rich kid sport.

Wow it would really be surprising to find out the kid on scholarship's parent(s) work(s) two menial jobs to try to survive. Maybe instead of being a jerk about it you could offer rides to help get him to practice and games.

the parent’s should have had better paying jobs or went to school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a small club and every team kind of has their own budget. We try to keep costs down as there are many families on the team that struggle to pay the $2K+ fees. There are at least two full scholarship players. I know of one of them. The problem I have is that the scholarship player that I know of will miss a lot of practices. No-show at a random game. And he's definitely in the lower 4th ability wise. It bothers me that he gets a scholarship where we could use that scholarship on someone that would be at every practice. Every game. etc. I think this particular scholarship or two allows families to be less invested in the team. If we had a paying player in that spot, we would be able to add a tournament or two maybe add winter futsal or add more winter indoor training. etc. I think scholarships should not only be based on financial need but also commitment, value to the team, etc. But in general, scholarships are necessary. Soccer shouldn't be a rich kid sport.

Wow it would really be surprising to find out the kid on scholarship's parent(s) work(s) two menial jobs to try to survive. Maybe instead of being a jerk about it you could offer rides to help get him to practice and games.

Why am I being a jerk? Because I think if a player gets a scholarship, they should be committed and add value to the team?

PS: When my son asks him why he wasn't at practice, it has been....because it was too cold. It was raining. I forgot. Stuff like that. Believe me it's not because they can't make it to practice. This particular kid lives a block away from another player with an open invitation for rides, etc. It's a VERY supportive team. There are many carpools available to games and practices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If im paying 3000$ and someone else is only pay 1000 then thats BS. We all live in the same country and should pay the same amount

So your opinion is that children of people whose employer's refuse to pay more than minimum wage and children of public servants should not be allowed on your team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a small club and every team kind of has their own budget. We try to keep costs down as there are many families on the team that struggle to pay the $2K+ fees. There are at least two full scholarship players. I know of one of them. The problem I have is that the scholarship player that I know of will miss a lot of practices. No-show at a random game. And he's definitely in the lower 4th ability wise. It bothers me that he gets a scholarship where we could use that scholarship on someone that would be at every practice. Every game. etc. I think this particular scholarship or two allows families to be less invested in the team. If we had a paying player in that spot, we would be able to add a tournament or two maybe add winter futsal or add more winter indoor training. etc. I think scholarships should not only be based on financial need but also commitment, value to the team, etc. But in general, scholarships are necessary. Soccer shouldn't be a rich kid sport.

Wow it would really be surprising to find out the kid on scholarship's parent(s) work(s) two menial jobs to try to survive. Maybe instead of being a jerk about it you could offer rides to help get him to practice and games.

Why am I being a jerk? Because I think if a player gets a scholarship, they should be committed and add value to the team?

PS: When my son asks him why he wasn't at practice, it has been....because it was too cold. It was raining. I forgot. Stuff like that. Believe me it's not because they can't make it to practice. This particular kid lives a block away from another player with an open invitation for rides, etc. It's a VERY supportive team. There are many carpools available to games and practices.

If the kid's commitment level does not match the rest of the team he should be released at the end of the season, not have his scholarship cut. The scholarship should be based on need not commitment. A kid who doesn't have the minimum commitment level should not be on the team.

That said the coach needs to be sensitive and if at all possible try to avoid punishing the kid for his parents over which he has no power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a small club and every team kind of has their own budget. We try to keep costs down as there are many families on the team that struggle to pay the $2K+ fees. There are at least two full scholarship players. I know of one of them. The problem I have is that the scholarship player that I know of will miss a lot of practices. No-show at a random game. And he's definitely in the lower 4th ability wise. It bothers me that he gets a scholarship where we could use that scholarship on someone that would be at every practice. Every game. etc. I think this particular scholarship or two allows families to be less invested in the team. If we had a paying player in that spot, we would be able to add a tournament or two maybe add winter futsal or add more winter indoor training. etc. I think scholarships should not only be based on financial need but also commitment, value to the team, etc. But in general, scholarships are necessary. Soccer shouldn't be a rich kid sport.

Wow it would really be surprising to find out the kid on scholarship's parent(s) work(s) two menial jobs to try to survive. Maybe instead of being a jerk about it you could offer rides to help get him to practice and games.

Why am I being a jerk? Because I think if a player gets a scholarship, they should be committed and add value to the team?

PS: When my son asks him why he wasn't at practice, it has been....because it was too cold. It was raining. I forgot. Stuff like that. Believe me it's not because they can't make it to practice. This particular kid lives a block away from another player with an open invitation for rides, etc. It's a VERY supportive team. There are many carpools available to games and practices.

If the kid's commitment level does not match the rest of the team he should be released at the end of the season, not have his scholarship cut. The scholarship should be based on need not commitment. A kid who doesn't have the minimum commitment level should not be on the team.

That said the coach needs to be sensitive and if at all possible try to avoid punishing the kid for his parents over which he has no power.

How does the coach determine why the kid misses practice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a small club and every team kind of has their own budget. We try to keep costs down as there are many families on the team that struggle to pay the $2K+ fees. There are at least two full scholarship players. I know of one of them. The problem I have is that the scholarship player that I know of will miss a lot of practices. No-show at a random game. And he's definitely in the lower 4th ability wise. It bothers me that he gets a scholarship where we could use that scholarship on someone that would be at every practice. Every game. etc. I think this particular scholarship or two allows families to be less invested in the team. If we had a paying player in that spot, we would be able to add a tournament or two maybe add winter futsal or add more winter indoor training. etc. I think scholarships should not only be based on financial need but also commitment, value to the team, etc. But in general, scholarships are necessary. Soccer shouldn't be a rich kid sport.

Wow it would really be surprising to find out the kid on scholarship's parent(s) work(s) two menial jobs to try to survive. Maybe instead of being a jerk about it you could offer rides to help get him to practice and games.

Why am I being a jerk? Because I think if a player gets a scholarship, they should be committed and add value to the team?

PS: When my son asks him why he wasn't at practice, it has been....because it was too cold. It was raining. I forgot. Stuff like that. Believe me it's not because they can't make it to practice. This particular kid lives a block away from another player with an open invitation for rides, etc. It's a VERY supportive team. There are many carpools available to games and practices.

Yes, it’s being a jerk to think a kid on scholarship has to perform better than the others if the scholarship is not based on that. If a kid not on scholarship had the same behavior would it bother you? If no, leave this kid alone. If yes, then it’s not related to the scholarship and you should mentally separate the two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a small club and every team kind of has their own budget. We try to keep costs down as there are many families on the team that struggle to pay the $2K+ fees. There are at least two full scholarship players. I know of one of them. The problem I have is that the scholarship player that I know of will miss a lot of practices. No-show at a random game. And he's definitely in the lower 4th ability wise. It bothers me that he gets a scholarship where we could use that scholarship on someone that would be at every practice. Every game. etc. I think this particular scholarship or two allows families to be less invested in the team. If we had a paying player in that spot, we would be able to add a tournament or two maybe add winter futsal or add more winter indoor training. etc. I think scholarships should not only be based on financial need but also commitment, value to the team, etc. But in general, scholarships are necessary. Soccer shouldn't be a rich kid sport.

Wow it would really be surprising to find out the kid on scholarship's parent(s) work(s) two menial jobs to try to survive. Maybe instead of being a jerk about it you could offer rides to help get him to practice and games.

Why am I being a jerk? Because I think if a player gets a scholarship, they should be committed and add value to the team?

PS: When my son asks him why he wasn't at practice, it has been....because it was too cold. It was raining. I forgot. Stuff like that. Believe me it's not because they can't make it to practice. This particular kid lives a block away from another player with an open invitation for rides, etc. It's a VERY supportive team. There are many carpools available to games and practices.

Yes, it’s being a jerk to think a kid on scholarship has to perform better than the others if the scholarship is not based on that. If a kid not on scholarship had the same behavior would it bother you? If no, leave this kid alone. If yes, then it’s not related to the scholarship and you should mentally separate the two.

+1

[Anonymous]

Say it, the Latino kid annoys you.

[Anonymous]

The kids I really can't stand are the ones on scholarship at college. Such a bunch of babywipes.



And don't tell me to be grateful that I'm able to afford full price. In order to really appreciate it I need to feel superior to the poors, ok?

Seriously I work HARD at being this insufferable. YEARS in the making. Daddy paid good money for me to learn how to be like this!

[Anonymous]

Club scholarships are need based not merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids I really can't stand are the ones on scholarship at college. Such a bunch of babywipes.



And don't tell me to be grateful that I'm able to afford full price. In order to really appreciate it I need to feel superior to the poors, ok?

Seriously I work HARD at being this insufferable. YEARS in the making. Daddy paid good money for me to learn how to be like this!

LOVE YOU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Club scholarships are need based not merit.

Yes, and my opinion is that I think it should be based on both. I understand that it would be difficult for a large club to do this but large clubs have the money to base scholarships strictly off of need. In smaller clubs where the money is tighter and the budget often differs between teams, I think you have to be more selective. If 15 parents are kicking in an extra $100 so the 16th can join for free, I think that 16th player should be selected based on merit as well. Keep in mind, there is rec to keep the uncommitted players/families playing soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Club scholarships are need based not merit.

Yes, and my opinion is that I think it should be based on both. I understand that it would be difficult for a large club to do this but large clubs have the money to base scholarships strictly off of need. In smaller clubs where the money is tighter and the budget often differs between teams, I think you have to be more selective. If 15 parents are kicking in an extra $100 so the 16th can join for free, I think that 16th player should be selected based on merit as well. Keep in mind, there is rec to keep the uncommitted players/families playing soccer.

Need based + work ethic I agree.

[Anonymous]

Nothing. I don't even know who is on scholarship. I don't assume anything.

At our old club, I worried about them finding rides to games, etc. and we always offered to take them.

My dad grew up poor. He went on full scholarship to a Prep school, college and grad school and made a great life. He always said how the Salvation Army helped him when he was a kid and was always very generous to those less fortunate. My husband also grew up with very little $ and it was the help of friends that made a difference.

[Anonymous]

I could care less about who is or isn't on scholarship. I care about kids who want to be there and are committed to the team. I am frankly glad that clubs have the ability to help out those people who need help in order for their kid to be able to play.