How would you feel about losing your company-provided health insurance for "medicare for all"?

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to explain most of the democrats plans, you can pay $1000/m for a private plan like the PP oy ui canpay $3000 more per year in taxes, but save the $1,000/mo.

So yes, your taxes go up, but you net out ahead.[b]

That is what they will tell you.
But, that remains to be revealed. Free college, free daycare, eliminating student debt, and all the other "freebies" being promoted by the Democrats would totally wipe out any savings. And, cost a ton more in taxes.
Also, if you "net out ahead" but have health care that is not great it is not "net out ahead" in my book.

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to explain most of the democrats plans, you can pay $1000/m for a private plan like the PP oy ui canpay $3000 more per year in taxes, but save the $1,000/mo.

So yes, your taxes go up, but you net out ahead.[b]

That is what they will tell you.
But, that remains to be revealed. Free college, free daycare, eliminating student debt, and all the other "freebies" being promoted by the Democrats would totally wipe out any savings. And, cost a ton more in taxes.
Also, if you "net out ahead" but have health care that is not great it is not "net out ahead" in my book.

As it is, our country is being driven to economic ruin so some 1%ers can reap the benefits. At least the dems want to invest in the average American through health, education and job training.

What benefit is the GOP plan giving to Americans?

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Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.

Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.

What happens to your coverage if you lose your job?

I want to know this too. OP can you please answer?

The reason I ask is because I have a sibling who lost coverage in the late 90s and then got very sick. It deeply affected my family.

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What percentage of Americans currently have really great employee sponsored health care?

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Americans currently have really great employee sponsored health care?

Very few. You may think yours is great, but that’s just because you haven’t been truly sick yet. Then you find out.

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Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.

Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.

No matter who the Democratic nominee turns out to be, if she/he is elected we will end up with Klobuchar’s health plan or something very close to it, because that is what can get through the Senate. That is probably true in most other policy areas as well.

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Not great, but I would like a public option because it does suck knowing I could get let go. I don’t think the government plan will be as great as people make it out to be. Plus private insurance rate subsidize Medicare and especially Medicaid rates, so while yes healthcare executives will get paid less, so will providers and some hospitals may close. Most Physician and Hospital groups are opposed to it, doctors are paid much more in the US than in other countries.

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Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.

Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.

What happens to your coverage if you lose your job?

exactly. and what happens to your kids, who will likely not have access to the same kind of plan?

I have a great plan now (fed) but I'd willingly go to Medicare for All. I'm fine with waiting longer to see specialists in non-urgent cases, which seems to be the main price to pay. Yes it means that you have to cut down on running to the hemotologist every time your (uneccesary) "annual blood work" shows white blood cells slightly out of normal range, but that's actually better healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.

Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.

Vote for your and your family interest first. If you are a democrat and really care about paying for someone's healthcare, just purchase a plan for a neighbor and pay for it.

Do you understand that that is literally not possible in our country?

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Anonymous wrote:We also have great healthcare. But I’ve also been in the position of having none, and so I know what that’s like.

It’s an ethics question. You have to decide what your values are. Are you willing to put aside your own interests for the greater common good?

Most people in this country are not. And so here we are.

You first.

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of Americans currently have really great employee sponsored health care?

About half of our population has employer sponsored healthcare.
And, the majority of those are quite satisfied with their coverage.

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As someone who participated in Medicare fir those over 62, it is useless to me. My dictums do not accept Medicare except for inexpensive testing so I pay out of pocket for most of my costs. I pay about $619 a month for Medicare and two supplemental policies which do little.

I guess the question depends on whether your current providers will take Medicare for All. My daughter works in Scotland and has private insurance through her employer. She uses NHS as we would use an emergency room or urgent care in the States.

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Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.

Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.

It's really important to note that this would only happen under SOME candidates' plans. Candidates like Biden--who advocates for a public option, along with employer-provided insurance--do not envision this.

I am on a federal plan and would like to keep it, unless "medicare for all" provides similar or better benefits at the same or lower cost, which I seriously doubt it would. This is one big reason why I don't support those candidates. Their plans are inefficient and infeasible. They would also cost a HUGE amount of money. I base that assessment in part on what my dad--an insurance expert who is known enough to have regular expert witness testimony work--has told me. He is strongly for the introduction of a public option.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To me, this is a huge thing that will deeply affect my family. We currently have great health insurance and pretty much immediate access to any specialist we need. Deductibles are minimal.

Most of the Democratic candidates' plans will mean worse healthcare access for us, and I assume many folks. I find this really frustrating! How is this considered a winning issue. I'm not going to vote against my own self-interest.

Vote for your and your family interest first. If you are a democrat and really care about paying for someone's healthcare, just purchase a plan for a neighbor and pay for it.

Do you understand that that is literally not possible in our country?

You mean you can’t hand a neighbor a check for $700 and tell them to pay for their health care insurance?

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on whether I get Canada's outcomes measures with that. Or Germany's, or New Zealand's.

This is an excellent point, one ignored by anybody advocating for any of this. Let's take Japan, as an example. They have health care for all. They also have a system where if you have cancer with a low percentage of success in curing, you get a kiss on the forehead and you go home to die. Dental care is another basket of insanity over there. And, yes, I know. I have lived there and work with Japanese companies all the time.

Of course, our system would never work that way. Only the best of palliative care, regardless of condition! That won't work, and is unsustainable. You want BASIC health care for all, that could only work if it is limited. Want something better, get yourself into a position to have health care provided as part of your compensation. Its not that hard, despite what everybody wants to say about how horrible america is, particularly now with millions of jobs unfilled, all of which provide health insurance, because people won't show up sober for more than a few days in a row.

Japan set rates, which is slightly different than healthcare for all.