A+ Schools for B Students

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Anonymous wrote:If you work hard for As and it is a struggle, you are a good student.

If you hardly work and get B's with no effort, you are brilliant.

If you party hard and do just enough not to fail, you are manipulative and clever.

These are the B students who rule the world telling these A students what to do, while these C students make a huge profit off of all of them.

The kids who get easy As in the hardest classes will be off on their own doing things the masses don't pay attention to, but that lowly advance the human condition.



This is a very American conception of intelligence.
Anonymous
Great list! I’d add Wooster College. It’s my high stats kids safety and very impressive in the sciences. Great med school/ grad school placement. Very impressed with the warm, welcoming environment. Average SAT mid 1200s.
Anonymous
I would not call that conception American, I would call it Trumpian.

Soon, I pray, the two will not intersect.
Anonymous
Wooster is on the list, you just have to set the filter to Liberal Arts Colleges (similar to Juniata
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wooster is on the list, you just have to set the filter to Liberal Arts Colleges (similar to Juniata


Maybe our kids will go to school together. DC loves it and it looks like there is a lot of merit and on the table there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wooster is on the list, you just have to set the filter to Liberal Arts Colleges (similar to Juniata


Same poster. The other LAC on the list as a safety is St. Olaf. Amazing place. Slightly higher stats but still reasonable. It’s a strong contender for my kid after visiting.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY



The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?


Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?


What does that have to do with anything written above?


It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.


But they are darn good predictors of where your kid will wind up.


There is no "good predictor" that shows A students do better than B students in the long run.


No one said long run. We are talking about where they will get into college. In that regard A’s do better than B’s, special circumstances notwithstanding. If you think differently you’re in denial.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY



The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?


Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?


What does that have to do with anything written above?


It answers the PP's question with a question pointing out that PP has a very narrow and likely incorrect view of what makes a good student. Test scores and GPA are part of a picture but don't always tell the story you think they tell.


But they are darn good predictors of where your kid will wind up.


There is no "good predictor" that shows A students do better than B students in the long run.


And, in fact, there is substantial research suggesting that it is the B students who do better in the long run.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY



The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?


Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?


Could describe a kid who hit their stride later in high school but is dragged down by a less than stellar GPA, emphasis on A.

DD had a tough time freshman year. After getting the highest grade in 8th grade algebra she jumped up from accelerated to honors math in 9th and it did NOT work out bc it was geometry which did not play to her math strengths. She also happened to get the teacher with the hardest grading reputation for english (not her best discipline) and that was a struggle. She rebounded nicely the next year and by senior year was at the top of her class. She is a freshman now at University of Wisconsin and I think we got lucky.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought this gave many decent options. Keep in mind that some of the majors at these schools are more selective than others, but it is good list to start the search.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/a-plus?fbclid=IwAR0UN_azWA6X0Yy2dlHsaxg4COS91iWcdTklCrOY0q6oBrBkbwfROKcWHsY



The very first line of from the article... "If you're a good student with less-than-stellar test scores or a so-so GPA, these are the schools for you."[i] What does this mean? Other than test scores/GPA, how is a good student defined?


Are you serious? Who's a better student: the straight A kid with lame ECs who took no college level classes or the 3.4 unweighted who took more than the minimum required load of only college level classes, while also participating in competitive sports and playing an instrument?


Could describe a kid who hit their stride later in high school but is dragged down by a less than stellar GPA, emphasis on A.

DD had a tough time freshman year. After getting the highest grade in 8th grade algebra she jumped up from accelerated to honors math in 9th and it did NOT work out bc it was geometry which did not play to her math strengths. She also happened to get the teacher with the hardest grading reputation for english (not her best disciplin e) and that was a struggle. She rebounded nicely the next year and by senior year was at the top of her class. She is a freshman now at University of Wisconsin and I think we got lucky.

Ranked 46 nothing to be too proud of.
Anonymous
You people who believe that rankings are the only currency in the realm are so reductionist...and superficial. I am happy for that Wisconsin student that she got the parents she did, instead of you!
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Anonymous wrote:You people who believe that rankings are the only currency in the realm are so reductionist...and superficial. I am happy for that Wisconsin student that she got the parents she did, instead of you!


Love Wisconsin. Wish they were better on FA though.
Anonymous
Interesting - my alma mater is on the list. Excellent endowment, had close to a full ride scholarship and graduated with very little debt.

Something to consider is that many of these options have an honors college. Mine did, and I was really satisfied with my academic experience in my major. But the scholarship was huge for me and my family and I'm grateful for it.
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Wisconsin is a great school.
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Michigan and Berkeley
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