Youth Soccer in rest of the world

[Anonymous]

OP here - The nasty turn the discussion has taken is unfortunate but I appreciate all of the helpful responses. As I mentioned, we’re new to all of this so I’m just trying to learn. I am aware of that thing called Google, but was curious to know the thoughts of this community too. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here - The nasty turn the discussion has taken is unfortunate but I appreciate all of the helpful responses. As I mentioned, we’re new to all of this so I’m just trying to learn. I am aware of that thing called Google, but was curious to know the thoughts of this community too. Thanks.

People tend to get a bit out of hand on this sight but there is always some useful information. What was the point of starting a thread for every age group/gender?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the clubs in Europe really do not care if their equivalent u17 team has a losing record. It’s all about the first team.

No know cares about the record in terms of wins and loses. It’s about how the kids develop and if these kids will generate money for the club.

Not true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - The nasty turn the discussion has taken is unfortunate but I appreciate all of the helpful responses. As I mentioned, we’re new to all of this so I’m just trying to learn. I am aware of that thing called Google, but was curious to know the thoughts of this community too. Thanks.

People tend to get a bit out of hand on this sight but there is always some useful information. What was the point of starting a thread for every age group/gender?

Don’t know because I didn’t do it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a petulant child. Learn from what goes on elsewhere if you are smart. Or Whine and insult and tantrum if you want while others pay attention and learn.

No tantrum at all. I am dead serious. If things are so much better somewhere else then put your money where your mouth is. Complaining about it here is a waste of time. No one will learn anything on this forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a petulant child. Learn from what goes on elsewhere if you are smart. Or Whine and insult and tantrum if you want while others pay attention and learn.

No tantrum at all. I am dead serious. If things are so much better somewhere else then put your money where your mouth is. Complaining about it here is a waste of time. No one will learn anything on this forum.

I agree with PP that you sound like a petulant child. Your latest post proves it. Most of us have jobs and responsibilities, so moving to Europe so that kids can play soccer in a better environment is not a realistic option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a petulant child. Learn from what goes on elsewhere if you are smart. Or Whine and insult and tantrum if you want while others pay attention and learn.

No tantrum at all. I am dead serious. If things are so much better somewhere else then put your money where your mouth is. Complaining about it here is a waste of time. No one will learn anything on this forum.

Yup, you are the "World Champions" Dad for sure.

You are wrong about one thing, people can learn things in this forum even if you refuse to do do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a petulant child. Learn from what goes on elsewhere if you are smart. Or Whine and insult and tantrum if you want while others pay attention and learn.

No tantrum at all. I am dead serious. If things are so much better somewhere else then put your money where your mouth is. Complaining about it here is a waste of time. No one will learn anything on this forum.

Yup, you are the "World Champions" Dad for sure.

You are wrong about one thing, people can learn things in this forum even if you refuse to do do.

Maybe YOU can. That says a lot about your knowledge base. Anyhow let me go read a thread that is actually useful cuz it ain’t this one.

[Anonymous]

Setting aside national team caliber players, the big difference between soccer here and elsewhere is the aspirations. Much like other sports, many people here look at it as a path to college admissions and scholarships. In most other countries this is not an option and the path is to professional soccer. Colleges aren't going to fund a youth system, while professional clubs can. But it also means that it will be available to far fewer people, and requires an early decision (like 12, as some have suggested) to go the professional sports route rather than the university or even secondary school route.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Setting aside national team caliber players, the big difference between soccer here and elsewhere is the aspirations. Much like other sports, many people here look at it as a path to college admissions and scholarships. In most other countries this is not an option and the path is to professional soccer. Colleges aren't going to fund a youth system, while professional clubs can. But it also means that it will be available to far fewer people, and requires an early decision (like 12, as some have suggested) to go the professional sports route rather than the university or even secondary school route.

Good point. You know the ironic thing is that the US pay to play system is so costly that by the time a kid gets a D1,2,3 scholarship ( difficult to begin with) that the parents have already paid for a year of school more or less. Also, playing D1 is so time consuming that academics frequently come second so the player’s education suffers. But then again, to commit a 12 year old to a sport in the hopes that one day he’ll go pro seems highly risky. But I digress...

[Anonymous]

Plenty of European kids have a dad who is a professional so they have guidance it's not like they're trying to figure it out on their own

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of European kids have a dad who is a professional so they have guidance it's not like they're trying to figure it out on their own

Less than 1% of all the boys who enter a European soccer school by the age of 9 will achieve their dreams of becoming a professional footballer (Business Insider UK).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of European kids have a dad who is a professional so they have guidance it's not like they're trying to figure it out on their own

Less than 1% of all the boys who enter a European soccer school by the age of 9 will achieve their dreams of becoming a professional footballer (Business Insider UK).

True. but the parents are not shelling out thousands of euros to pay for training. The average cost in Germany for pay-to-play in 3.5 euros per month.

[Anonymous]

We just have a fundamentally different system. Soccer talent is inherently valuable in europe and it will be found and developed at no cost to the player because the club can make money doing that.

Here, outside of the funded mls clubs, the money comes from players that have disposable income available to pay to develop their own talent. The pool from where our players come is much smaller percentage wise. Only those able to pay to play need apply and that group may or may not have real deal talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just have a fundamentally different system. Soccer talent is inherently valuable in europe and it will be found and developed at no cost to the player because the club can make money doing that.

Here, outside of the funded mls clubs, the money comes from players that have disposable income available to pay to develop their own talent. The pool from where our players come is much smaller percentage wise. Only those able to pay to play need apply and that group may or may not have real deal talent.

Not an expert but my perception is that in Europe, there is greater emphasis on developing players, whereas here we develop teams and clubs, especially at younger ages. The year to year nature of pay to play at younger ages emphasizes athleticism and physicality, rather than technical development. In addition, the pressure to form willing teams and to market winning clubs leads to coaches to micromanage, stifling creativity and soccer iq. Clubs here need to win to be marketable and have less incentive to invest in players over the long haul.