Why are #s so low for '%age of students meeting university system of MD entrance requirements'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Seriously not everyone needs to attend or is cut ou for college. The county should focus more on customer service and votech.

+1 college professor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the UMD entrance requirements:

Four years of English
Four years of math, including Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II. Students who complete Algebra II prior to their final year must complete the four-year mathematics requirement by taking a course or courses that utilize non-trivial algebra. Examples of courses meeting this requirement include Algebra II, Trigonometry, Precalculus, Calculus and successor courses, Statistics, and College Algebra.
Three years of history or social science
Three years of science in at least two different areas, with at least two lab experiences
Two years of foreign language

May be students interested in humanities, arts, music, linguistics, etc. may be doing three science courses, as required by MCPS, but may not have two lab experiences.

MCPS Curriculum: 22 credits required in Grades 9–12 for graduation
English ................................................................. 4
Math..................................................................... 4
Science ................................................................ 3
Social Studies......................................................... 3
Fine Arts................................................................ 1
Foreign Language orAdvanced Technology Education ......2
Health Education .................................................... 0.5
Physical Education .................................................. 1
Technology Education ...............................................1
Electives ............................................................... 2.5 (selected from academic majors or special subjects)

This is a very good point. I always assumed that ALL MCPS science classes have a lab component. Am I wrong? Only AP Bio has a double period class at many schools. I'm assuming that other science classes have lab built-in, just not everyday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is cut out for college. It’s a shame our school system pushes everyone towards college even when they shouldn’t be there.

A lot of people get paid very well though with this scam.

huge scam - https://eoschools.org/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the UMD entrance requirements:

Four years of English
Four years of math, including Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II. Students who complete Algebra II prior to their final year must complete the four-year mathematics requirement by taking a course or courses that utilize non-trivial algebra. Examples of courses meeting this requirement include Algebra II, Trigonometry, Precalculus, Calculus and successor courses, Statistics, and College Algebra.
Three years of history or social science
Three years of science in at least two different areas, with at least two lab experiences
Two years of foreign language

May be students interested in humanities, arts, music, linguistics, etc. may be doing three science courses, as required by MCPS, but may not have two lab experiences.

MCPS Curriculum: 22 credits required in Grades 9–12 for graduation
English ................................................................. 4
Math..................................................................... 4
Science ................................................................ 3
Social Studies......................................................... 3
Fine Arts................................................................ 1
Foreign Language orAdvanced Technology Education ......2
Health Education .................................................... 0.5
Physical Education .................................................. 1
Technology Education ...............................................1
Electives ............................................................... 2.5 (selected from academic majors or special subjects)

This is a very good point. I always assumed that ALL MCPS science classes have a lab component. Am I wrong? Only AP Bio has a double period class at many schools. I'm assuming that other science classes have lab built-in, just not everyday.

So which MCPS science courses count as a lab?

[Anonymous]

What is the %age by race? How are the URM numbers fallen over the years? It seems that all the smoke and mirror tricks MCPS plays with facts and data to show that the achievement gap is closing has led to the gap becoming a chasm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the UMD entrance requirements:

Four years of English
Four years of math, including Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II. Students who complete Algebra II prior to their final year must complete the four-year mathematics requirement by taking a course or courses that utilize non-trivial algebra. Examples of courses meeting this requirement include Algebra II, Trigonometry, Precalculus, Calculus and successor courses, Statistics, and College Algebra.
Three years of history or social science
Three years of science in at least two different areas, with at least two lab experiences
Two years of foreign language

May be students interested in humanities, arts, music, linguistics, etc. may be doing three science courses, as required by MCPS, but may not have two lab experiences.

MCPS Curriculum: 22 credits required in Grades 9–12 for graduation
English ................................................................. 4
Math..................................................................... 4
Science ................................................................ 3
Social Studies......................................................... 3
Fine Arts................................................................ 1
Foreign Language orAdvanced Technology Education ......2
Health Education .................................................... 0.5
Physical Education .................................................. 1
Technology Education ...............................................1
Electives ............................................................... 2.5 (selected from academic majors or special subjects)

This is a very good point. I always assumed that ALL MCPS science classes have a lab component. Am I wrong? Only AP Bio has a double period class at many schools. I'm assuming that other science classes have lab built-in, just not everyday.

So which MCPS science courses count as a lab?

I agree that most science classes have lab. It's not like college where you have to sign up for lab separately. Biology, chemistry, physics, and earth science all probably count as lab courses, even if they're not AP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the UMD entrance requirements:

Four years of English
Four years of math, including Algebra I, Geometry, and Algebra II. Students who complete Algebra II prior to their final year must complete the four-year mathematics requirement by taking a course or courses that utilize non-trivial algebra. Examples of courses meeting this requirement include Algebra II, Trigonometry, Precalculus, Calculus and successor courses, Statistics, and College Algebra.
Three years of history or social science
Three years of science in at least two different areas, with at least two lab experiences
Two years of foreign language

May be students interested in humanities, arts, music, linguistics, etc. may be doing three science courses, as required by MCPS, but may not have two lab experiences.

MCPS Curriculum: 22 credits required in Grades 9–12 for graduation
English ................................................................. 4
Math..................................................................... 4
Science ................................................................ 3
Social Studies......................................................... 3
Fine Arts................................................................ 1
Foreign Language orAdvanced Technology Education ......2
Health Education .................................................... 0.5
Physical Education .................................................. 1
Technology Education ...............................................1
Electives ............................................................... 2.5 (selected from academic majors or special subjects)

This is a very good point. I always assumed that ALL MCPS science classes have a lab component. Am I wrong? Only AP Bio has a double period class at many schools. I'm assuming that other science classes have lab built-in, just not everyday.

So which MCPS science courses count as a lab?

I agree that most science classes have lab. It's not like college where you have to sign up for lab separately. Biology, chemistry, physics, and earth science all probably count as lab courses, even if they're not AP.

Maybe Astronomy doesn't have a lab?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be something more to the course completion data - might be with "C" or higher, which could knock out a lot of kids passing classes with Ds.

RMHS has 37.4% meeting UM system requirements on At-a-Glance. 2018 graduates were ~600. 2018 had 142/298 accepted to UMDCP (48% of applicants, 24% of graduates), with the majority with >3.0 unweighted GPA, >3.75 weighted GPA.

The 37% number seems very low when you consider !that 20% approx are IB and certainly qualify so that leaves very few non ib kids. Also the 142 accepted is very close to a third of the senior class. It is unlikely all of the unaccepted students applied even though they did not meet the requirements for acceptance.

RM has Twinbrook, Lincoln Park and more. They put the IB in that school for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Graduation requirements for all MD public schools are set by the state, not the counties. http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/programs/Documents/Testing/GraduationsRequirements2018.pdf

To be awarded a diploma, a student must earn a minimum of 21 credits, 18 of them in the subjects below. See COMAR 13A.03.02.03B. Students must also complete an Environmental Literacy Program. See COMAR 13A.03.02.03C.

1. English - four credits of organized instruction in comprehension of literary and informational text, writing, speaking and listening, language, and literacy, of which one credit shall be aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for English;
2. Fine Arts - one credit in visual arts, music, theatre, or dance, or a combination of these;
3. Mathematics - three credits, including one with instruction in algebra aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for algebra or one or more credits in subsequent mathematics courses for which algebra is a prerequisite, and one with instruction in geometry aligned with the content standards for geometry;
4. Physical Education - one-half credit;
5. Health Education - one-half credit;
6. Science - three credits of organized instruction which includes a laboratory component engaging in the application of the science and engineering practices, the crosscutting concepts, and disciplinary core ideas including Earth/space science, life science, physical science (chemistry and physics), and engineering, technology, and applications of science, and aligned to the Maryland High School Assessment for science.
7. Social Studies - three credits including one credit in United States history, one credit in world history, and one credit in local, state, and national government aligned with the Maryland High School Assessment for government;
8. Technology Education – one credit that includes the application of knowledge, tools, and skills to solve practical problems and extend human capabilities; and
9. One of the following: a. Two credits of world language, which may include American Sign Language; b. Two credits of advanced technology education; or c. Successfully complete a State-approved career and technology program.

While most students will earn credits in classes during the regular school day, there are several other ways to earn credits. They are summer school, evening school, online courses, tutoring, work-study, job entry training, college courses, independent study/internship, and credit through examination. See COMAR 13A.03.02.04.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There has to be something more to the course completion data - might be with "C" or higher, which could knock out a lot of kids passing classes with Ds.

RMHS has 37.4% meeting UM system requirements on At-a-Glance. 2018 graduates were ~600. 2018 had 142/298 accepted to UMDCP (48% of applicants, 24% of graduates), with the majority with >3.0 unweighted GPA, >3.75 weighted GPA.

The 37% number seems very low when you consider !that 20% approx are IB and certainly qualify so that leaves very few non ib kids. Also the 142 accepted is very close to a third of the senior class. It is unlikely all of the unaccepted students applied even though they did not meet the requirements for acceptance.

RM has Twinbrook, Lincoln Park and more. They put the IB in that school for a reason.

Twinbrook is a tiny ES. The put IB in RM in the 80's..before King Farm, Parc Potomac, Falls Grove. It is unlikely that none of the unaccepted applicants met the admissions criteria and all of the students who did not apply were also unqualified.

[Anonymous]

First I thought RMs number might be a typo since it is exactly the same as the FARMS rate. Then I looked and Whitman only has a 57% rate. I wonder how it is calculated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the %age by race? How are the URM numbers fallen over the years? It seems that all the smoke and mirror tricks MCPS plays with facts and data to show that the achievement gap is closing has led to the gap becoming a chasm.

The county will never make any headway on closing the gap. I agree it's a problem, but it's not one the county can address on its own.

Sure universal pre-k and better after-school offerings would help, but the root of this divide stems from what happens outside of school.

Maybe just accept that not everyone is academically inclined nor is it even necessary for everyone to pursue college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the %age by race? How are the URM numbers fallen over the years? It seems that all the smoke and mirror tricks MCPS plays with facts and data to show that the achievement gap is closing has led to the gap becoming a chasm.

The county will never make any headway on closing the gap. I agree it's a problem, but it's not one the county can address on its own.

Sure universal pre-k and better after-school offerings would help, but the root of this divide stems from what happens outside of school.

Maybe just accept that not everyone is academically inclined nor is it even necessary for everyone to pursue college.

This times one million. I am a teacher and I cannot be a parent to my students. So many of them suffer from lack of basic parenting let alone parents who enrich them academically. When nobody even asks you about school, makes you attend regularly, return school phone calls, etc, you are going to lag behind other students whose parents are doing their jobs as parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the %age by race? How are the URM numbers fallen over the years? It seems that all the smoke and mirror tricks MCPS plays with facts and data to show that the achievement gap is closing has led to the gap becoming a chasm.

The county will never make any headway on closing the gap. I agree it's a problem, but it's not one the county can address on its own.

Sure universal pre-k and better after-school offerings would help, but the root of this divide stems from what happens outside of school.

Maybe just accept that not everyone is academically inclined nor is it even necessary for everyone to pursue college.

Lots of studies out there that show that universal pre-k doesn't help. One recent study showed that kids selected to go to pre-k actually had more behavioral problems later on, and gas no lasting academic gains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the %age by race? How are the URM numbers fallen over the years? It seems that all the smoke and mirror tricks MCPS plays with facts and data to show that the achievement gap is closing has led to the gap becoming a chasm.

The county will never make any headway on closing the gap. I agree it's a problem, but it's not one the county can address on its own.

Sure universal pre-k and better after-school offerings would help, but the root of this divide stems from what happens outside of school.

Maybe just accept that not everyone is academically inclined nor is it even necessary for everyone to pursue college.

Lots of studies out there that show that universal pre-k doesn't help. One recent study showed that kids selected to go to pre-k actually had more behavioral problems later on, and gas no lasting academic gains.

I just heard an NPR story that showed two years of pre-K meant lifelong financial and health gains and it extended into the next generation.